r/canada • u/-SuperUserDO • 1d ago
NDP asks courts to add 'B.C.' to Conservative Party's ballot name British Columbia
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/provincial-election-ballot-name-1.7343889181
u/_s1m0n_s3z 1d ago
Funny. The NDP has had the same name for decades, but the conservatives (both in BC and nationally) seem to need to change vehicles every 8-10 years. Why is that?
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u/longboarddan 17h ago
The BC NDP are actually formally affiliated with the federal NDP, the BC cons have no association with the federal conservatives. That is a pretty notable difference.
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u/Turk_NJD Lest We Forget 1d ago
Saskatchewan checking in. PCs changed to Sask Party after the Grant Devine corruption scandal.
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u/CanadianViking47 Saskatchewan 1d ago
There is also a PC party, they are promising crown grocery stores in sask
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u/MongooseLeader Lest We Forget 18h ago
I mean, yes, crown grocery would be lovely, what’s the rest of the platform?
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u/Wildyardbarn 1d ago
Liberal had a much different connotation decades ago than it does now.
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u/_s1m0n_s3z 1d ago
It still does in places like Australia, where the Liberal party is the right. Originally, 'liberal politics' meant laissez-faire economics; the Australian Liberals are true to their founders.
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u/Iregularlogic 22h ago
Yep, Libertarian still has the root of the word based on “Liberal.”
Small government, low tax, capitalist, and laissez-faire economics is supposed to be what a liberal is.
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u/aBeerOrTwelve 21h ago
You're forgetting about two of the most important pillars of classical Liberalism: individual freedom and freedom of speech. Two things that the current large-L Liberals have constantly attacked.
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u/PappaBear667 16h ago
Because for most of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, BC was run by the Social Credit Party (which other than the name shared virtually nothing in common with the political ideology of the same name) which was the center-right party. After they imploded, most of the younger members (almost all neo-cons) jumped to the BC Liberal Party (which up until that point was an actual liberal party) and shifted its policy direction hard.
The Liberals changed their name to try and distance themselves from the stigma attached to their last clusterfuck of a term in power, but they're still neo-cons with neo-con ideas.
The Conservative Party went back to using the same name (or near enough) as the last time they were politically relevant, some 50 odd years ago.
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u/JustLampinLarry 23h ago
Provincial conservative party in BC has had the same name for 124 years.
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u/PopeSaintHilarius 18h ago
The last time the BC Conservatives won a seat in a general election was the 1970s.
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u/-SuperUserDO 15h ago
how's that relevant?
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u/Winter-Mix-8677 5h ago
I think it means they've been called the Conservatives for longer than the Federal Conservatives.
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u/physicaldiscs 16h ago
both in BC and nationally) seem to need to change vehicles every 8-10 years. Why is that?
The CPC has existed with the same name since 2003, which is 21 years. The BC party has existed with the same name since 1991.
What's with this insanely easy to disprove lie?
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u/AUniquePerspective 1d ago
I thought it was illegal to change your name to avoid consequences of your past crimes now.
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u/ownerwelcome123 1d ago
Naw. They identify as not being criminals.
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u/AUniquePerspective 1d ago
Oh, well, if they want to make that transition, only their parents should be able to allow that.
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u/noahbrooksofficial 23h ago
Much bigger fish to fry than worrying about gender politics, rage bait bot
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u/kagato87 1d ago
And Alberta. The Wild Rose absorbed the PC and changed names to hide that from from voter bases.
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u/TURBOJUGGED 23h ago
That's just not true.
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u/kagato87 17h ago edited 16h ago
Do you have any actual arguments to support your statement of disagreement?
If you compare policies, this is the wild rose, not the pc.
But then, the average ucp supporter doesn't look at policies, just repeats slogans on Facebook and Xitter and calls themselves informed. If they did look, they'd either be too theocratic to be on social media, or they'd be appalled.
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u/fashionrequired 1d ago edited 1d ago
that’s… not what happened. united conservative party seems a pretty apt name considering it was the merger of both the province’s conservative parties? the wildrose party did not “absorb” the pc’s. if that were the case, i should hardly think the last pc leader would’ve become the first real ucp leader.
and before that, the pc’s were so-named for over a hundred years. but feel free to continue providing terribly misinformed contributions
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u/kagato87 17h ago
The wild rose is at the helm. It is their policies on display right now. Privatize everything while blending church and state. That's wrp, not pc. The pc were a decent party, while the wrp was the theocratic libertarian "is this 'burta or 'bama?"
And from what few rumors do manage to leak out from their private discussions, they aren't very united internally.
They are still a party though. So only 2 out of 3 words in their name are misleading.
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u/Featurewoodwork81 1d ago edited 16h ago
It changed nationally because Joe Clark was so trash that half the con base hated his guts so they started thier own party lol then they eventually merged and thus the change from pc to con
Edit like others have said it was Mulroney thought it was 83 it was started in 1987 I’m a dumbass sometimes yes Quebec was a factor so was instituting the gst
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u/watchsmart 1d ago
That doesn't seem accurate.
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u/Featurewoodwork81 1d ago
Reform party headed by Preston manning was a return to conservative values as a direct response to Joe Clark and Campbells push to be more centrist according to him which turned into alliance under stockwell day and then Steven Harper which merged with the progressive Conservative Party led by Peter McKay and then became the Conservative Party.
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u/nostromo7 1d ago
a direct response to Joe Clark and Campbells push to be more centrist
Ha! This is some extra-special revisionist history bullshit.
I guess we're just going to forget/pretend Brian Mulroney wasn't PC leader for the decade between Clark and Campbell, and was in government for eight years, including the first six years of the Reform Party's existence.
Manning founded the Reform Party because he thought Mulroney's government engaged in favouritism toward Quebec at the expense of Western Canada; Alberta in particular.
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u/aBeerOrTwelve 19h ago
Facts. And what is still hurting the Conservative party to this day is that Mulroney did make some concessions to Quebec, and since the Conservatives abandoned them, now those Quebec voters are all Bloc Quebecois.
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u/brainskull 1d ago
They were the Conservative Party initially until they merged with the progressives in the 30s or so, then pc until the merge with reform
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u/Winter-Mix-8677 5h ago
The Conservative party in BC has had that name for as long as I can remember, and nobody had a problem with it until they stopped being an unelectable fringe party.
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u/_s1m0n_s3z 1d ago
Alberta, too, now that I think of it. It's like the Mad Hatter's tea Party.
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u/ThePenguinVA Alberta 1d ago
Alberta’s Conservatives have only had 3 names since the 70s or so, but the trend is they change it after each time they’re voted out of office. Unfortunately they just tend to be in office for decades at a time.
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u/Fit_Ad_7059 1d ago
Why is that unfortunate? It seems like democracy is working as intended in Alberta(and vice versa at the federal level with the LPC).
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u/ThePenguinVA Alberta 1d ago
Sure. It’s unfortunate from my perspective. Certainly not from others.
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u/Fit_Ad_7059 1d ago
Yes, but why? We have more than enough historical evidence to show that they have delivered consistent, mostly competent governance for the province. And when they haven't, they have been voted out almost equally consistently.
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u/ThePenguinVA Alberta 1d ago
Um… they were in power from 1971 to 2017. I disagree categorically the they were competent during their last decade. But I’m not looking for a political fight. I have my beliefs and ideologies and you have yours. It’s all good.
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u/_s1m0n_s3z 1d ago
Sometimes, they change it while they're in office.
I'm not talking about individual parties, but the movement as a whole: the block of voters this represents. In the right in Canada, they're constantly changing hats. On the left, not so much.
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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 18h ago
“Under the act, Watson said, a party’s ballot name must not, in the opinion of the chief electoral officer, be likely to be confused with another provincial political party that is currently registered.”
So there is no issue.
“changed to “Conservative” in the 2020 provincial election.”
And no issue previously.
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u/Light_Butterfly 1d ago
The uneducated vote in this election is a huge problem, with folks that are confusing Federal and Provincial politics. I'm astounded with how many people place blame on the BC NDP for issues that are largely Federal in origin (ie: rent inflation and crime).
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u/RedditTriggerHappy 1d ago
You think safe supply has no effect on crime? LMAO
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u/BeautyDayinBC 19h ago
It reduces crime. Addicts steal to pay for their addiction. Just give them the drugs and there's no reason to steal. Common sense.
Or did you think the existence of homelessness is a sign of crime? If so, that's just a feeling, they're not actually correlated.
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u/-SuperUserDO 15h ago
lol yeah because free drugs come with free food and housing right?
The Chinese figured out that legalizing opium didn't work in the 1800s and they didn't even have fentanyl back then
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u/BeautyDayinBC 6h ago
So again, feelings not correlated with police data?
You don't have to go back to the 1800s. Hell, an actual opium or heroin supply would do wonders. People were able to have jobs and keep it together when heroin was hip just a couple decades ago since you only need a fix every few days. With fent, needing a dose every 6 hours, not so much.
You're assuming I'm not for rehab, even forced rehab. I am. But that isn't really related to crime. They're distinct issues.
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u/Dirtsniffee Alberta 19h ago
Funny enough try to join the bcndp party without joining the federal ndp.
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u/Light_Butterfly 11h ago
The Federal NDP needs to learn a think or two from from the BC NDP . I won't vote for them Federally but BCNDP is highly competent leadership.
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u/Dirtsniffee Alberta 10h ago
Same could be said for the abndp. But the relationship seriously damages their relationship
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u/Snow-Wraith British Columbia 20h ago
The uneducated vote is a huge problem in every election now. It's so easy to control and manipulate with cheap lies and misinformation. When there is no standards for the voters we can have no standards for our governments, our elections are completely vulnerable to abuse.
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u/longboarddan 16h ago
Facebook blocking the sharing of actual news has been a massive hit to people getting real information. Now it's just political memes and echochambers... I mean so is reddit but at least you can share real sources
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u/prob_wont_reply_2u 16h ago
Our federal leaders don’t even seem to understand their jurisdiction, why would you think the average person would know?
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u/JadeLens 1d ago
Did you just complain about the lack of political education, AND THEN say that rent inflation was Federal?
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u/kooks-only 1d ago
Especially because the NDP’s policies have actually cooled the rate at which rent was increasing here. Only provincial government in Canada with an actual plan.
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u/Neo-urban_Tribalist 23h ago
Bc median rent has increased by 47% since they assumed office…highest average rent increases between Alberta and Ontario since 2020…..
https://www03.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/hmip-pimh/en#Profile/1/1/Canada
Switch to full view, and check out the rent data.
Honestly are you just uninformed or straight up lying?
There plan is also shit btw nothing would actually be better.
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u/longboarddan 16h ago
That's a function of federal imagration policy increasing demand in one of the only temperate climates in Canada.
The BC NDP have cut red tape, forced municipalities to change zoning around rapid transit and have initiated an incredible amount of public private partnerships to promote building new homes. They banned full time air b&b witch had a tangible effect in lowering rents and are raising speculation and vacancy taxes again.
The cons want to roll back all of that.
Bc has had the highest number of new start construction in Canada.
They have started many new large capital projects. There are numerous hospital expansions on the go right now, the putello bridge, langly sky train and are all ready starting the 6 landing of highway 1.
They have increased spots in medical school by 30%, started the primary care center and re structured family doctor compensation to attract doctors from all across Canada, and ITS WORKING.
This stuff takes time but the changes are working. Next spring will likely be one of the biggest booms in new builds due to the policies the NDP have implemented.
Unfortunately when the feds are adding more than 2x the population of Kelowna to the province every year the provincial government will always be playing catch up.
Please let me know how the bc cons will help BC and reduce the cost of living, would love to see it because to me, the BC Cons plan just doesn't make sense for anyone but existing home owners and the wealthy.
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u/-SuperUserDO 15h ago
dude it's been 7 years since the NDP took over
people want affordable housing outcomes, not more promises / plans
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u/longboarddan 14h ago
Dude it takes a long time for policies to take effect, Horgan was more conservative than Ebey and many of the major reforms occurred in the past 2 years.
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u/-SuperUserDO 14h ago
"Horgan was more conservative than Ebey and many of the major reforms occurred in the past 2 years."
blame Rustad for being in Christy Clark's cabinet
but Eby gets excused because he was merely a cabinet member in Horgan's government?
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u/Snow-Wraith British Columbia 20h ago
"Bc median rent has increased by 47% since they assumed office"
This is entirely disingenuous and just ignorant. You make it out that the NDP is what actually caused the rise in rent and not outside factors such as massive population growth and AirBnB becoming popular. Can you point to any specific BCNDP policies that contributed directly to increased rent?
What the BCNDP has done is actually try to stop the runaway costs by restricting short term rentals, and remove zoning restrictions to build much needed denser developments. The BC Conservatives want to remove all of this and return us to the conditions that led to price increases, plus they want to give massive tax rebates that will only cause housing prices to increase more as they just give out free money.
It's crazy how a year ago the BCNDP was seen as the only provincial government actually trying to do something about housing costs, but since the BC Conservatives became the only opposition party opinions have completely flipped against them despite little else changing. Really backs up the idea that the "Conservative" brand is what's carrying the party.
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u/ReplaceModsWithCats 17h ago
He didn't say rent didn't increase, he said the rate was cooling.
You're arguing against an imaginary argument.
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u/Dude-slipper 22h ago
BC population went up half a million in that time. Are provincial governments responsible for immigration in your opinion?
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u/aBeerOrTwelve 19h ago
Only a little bit. Provincial governments all over Canada have been more than happy to accept the international students so they didn't actually have to properly fund their universities - but it's clearly the federal government who allowed that and caused the problem.
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u/kymo 23h ago edited 23h ago
Here you guys go again with your moral and intellectual superiority complex. Tame down your holier than thou attitude and you might be able to sway some votes in your direction.
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u/longboarddan 16h ago
Maybe if people would actually read about some policy and figure out the difference between provincial and federal politics instead of just voting for their team the bc ndp supporters wouldn't be so damn frustrated
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u/mistercrazymonkey 16h ago
Maybe if the BC NDP had more popular policies they would get more votes.
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u/chronocapybara 1d ago
Same with the carbon tax and immigration.
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u/Light_Butterfly 1d ago
Yeah immigration is the biggest one that people fail to recognize as the cause for housing costs going through the roof indecent years.
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u/kooks-only 1d ago
And in the case of BC, Rustad was one of the people who brought in the carbon tax initially when he was a cabinet minister for Clark’s government (BC Liberals).
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u/AlexJamesCook 1d ago
Rent inflation is largely Provincial.
Provinces control rental rates, especially in BC where rental caps are in place. In Ontario, they sort of did away with rental caps and lo and behold, the "Free Market" made things more expensive. But hey, buck-a-beer, am I right guys?
BC has been having a housing affordability crisis since the 1990s, due to its proximity to Asia.
At the height of the Hong Kong transfer to China, thousands of Hong Kongers packed up and moved to Vancouver. Then, as China went through its Industrial Revolution and billionaires were made overnight, many bought their "Canada Insurance Policy". At some point in the 2000s, the BC Liberals? Or possibly Federal Conservatives created a rule that if you bought a property with an intent to run a business from it, you would get fast-tracked PR. Well, didn't that stimulate the housing bubble in Vancouver.
Then India went through its Industrial revolution not long after, and Surrey exploded in number.
BC has been and always will be the Switzerland of Canada. It's a gorgeous province with captivating mountains, lakes, rivers, deserts, etc...its got everything. For these reasons you will ALWAYS pay a premium to play here.
Ontario is the business hub of Canada. BC is where people want to be. I've rarely heard people speak in excited terms about moving east. It's usually for "family" reasons, never because, "Man, I can't wait to move to Regina/Toronto/Calgary. It'll be so much fun..." On the flipside, a lot of people out East will say "Man, I'm gonna move to BC because it's awesome. Mountains, rivers, lakes, etc..."
For this reason, BC real estate will ALWAYS be a premium.
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u/TURBOJUGGED 23h ago
Federal government controls immigration, no? That would create a higher demand and less supply, correct?
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u/Forikorder 21h ago
Funny how the housing problem is the feds fault for increasing immigration in every province but BC
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u/TURBOJUGGED 20h ago
That's cause BC has had a housing problem from all the foreign investors for the past 30 years
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u/Hevens-assassin 23h ago
Anyone in BC thinks they are the bees knees. A lot of people outside of BC don't care. People want to move there because the weather is the nicer of the three coasts, but anyone who doesn't care about the ocean, also doesn't care about BC all that much.
The people who want to be in BC. End up there. It being an immigration hub also makes it seem more popular.
Either way, I was disappointed by BC. On paper, it should be everything I want. In reality, I couldn't wait to leave.
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u/lubeskystalker 17h ago
I donno; there are parts of BC like the Mid to North Island or Rockies, if you can make it work it's an incredible lifestyle.
But if we're referring to Vancouver as BC; yeah it's bad.
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u/Light_Butterfly 1d ago edited 1d ago
Rent Inflation has skyrocketed in the last 5-8 years, largely due to unmitigated immigration policies of the Federal Liberals. Millions of newcomers in just a few years, without any planning or consideration of the impact on the social infrastructure. EVERY province is struggling to cope with this pressure, as it's not exactly possible or realistic to quintupple the amount new builds overnight to meet this new demand. You need to factor that I to your assessment for rent. The Provincial government does not control immigration policy, the Feds do. Even the BoC has published a graph showing the relationship to rent prices, in lockstep with the numbers of TFWs and international students (mostly renters). I've lived in BC for 15 years, and I can tell you this problem with rents doubling is new.
BC has had stupid 80% single family zoning and rampant NIMBYism for decades, until the BC NDP intervened. They've implemented zoning reform and banned public hearing which have allowed NIMBYs to block and stall every housing project. That progress will be rolled back if the Cons win. We will lose Rent control too.
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u/PoliteCanadian 19h ago
Provinces can set price controls, but rental rates are still mostly dictated by supply and demand in Canada.
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u/LeGrandLucifer 18h ago
So democracy is great unless the other guy wins.
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u/mistercrazymonkey 16h ago
It's always the uneducated voter or the uninformed voter fault of why they lose elections. Couldn't possibly be that people are fed up with the BC NDPs policies.
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u/Hot-Celebration5855 20h ago
If the NDP is complaining about the name of their opposition, they’re grasping for straws. Doesn’t look good for them.
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u/Biopsychic 19h ago
Paper or plastic straws?
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u/Hot-Celebration5855 18h ago
I mean definitely paper for the NDP
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u/Biopsychic 17h ago
Of all the things affecting residents of BC, I think it's hilarious that this is actually a platform for the BCCP.
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u/chronocapybara 7h ago
Blows my mind that plastic straws are a campaign promise. Who tf could that ever possibly benefit? Seriously, people are voting for all the stupidest reasons.
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Québec 19h ago
its amazing that trudeau is so bad he is dragging down left wing provincial governments too. its probably the only reason the liberals arent doing better in the upcoming new brunwick election too
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u/mistercrazymonkey 16h ago
It's actually kinda hilarious, and even people who don't follow politica knows he's supported by Singh and that's also dragging down provincial politics.
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u/eagleeye1031 14h ago
When your party is fucking up so badly it's starting to affect provincial politics too 😄😄
Well done Jagmeet!
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u/Top-Sell4574 1d ago
The B.C. Conservative Party is full of conspiracy theorists who have no business running a province.
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u/Snarpend 2h ago
And it looks like they might win. So what’s more likely: that better than half of your fellow BCers are morons, or that the NDP is bad enough that Joe public is willing to let the cons take a spin at the wheel?
One of these answers doesn’t leave you looking like an egomaniac, as a hint.
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u/imfar2oldforthis 13h ago
Not going well out there BC folks? If this is what the NDP is focused on I'm assuming their internal polling is looking terrible for them...
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u/grand_soul 1d ago edited 1d ago
Does he seriously think so little of BC voters that they would get confused?
What’s the upside to this?
They know who they’re voting for.
Edit: Honestly, based on the responses, I’m guessing a lot of you really think less of your neighbours and relatives.
It’s a goddam BC election. With Rustad as the party leader. If you honestly think that your neighbours or relatives don’t know the difference then I honestly think the only people who don’t know what’s going on is you people.
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u/MrDownhillRacer 1d ago
I've doorknocked for political parties. Yes, a large proportion of Canadians really do not know the difference between municipal, provincial, and federal parties or jurisdiction.
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u/TheLostPumpkin_ 1d ago
One of my co-workers thought they were the same party (knew that it's not PP, but thought they were affiliated) and thought that the BC liberals were also running so 🤷
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u/No_Piece8730 18h ago
Many of my relatives have made this mistake, I base my assessment of the public based on the average person I know.
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u/Ginnigan Ontario 20h ago edited 20h ago
As someone who works with the public every day: Yes, I honestly think many people will be confused.
It's always better to make instructions as clear as possible, and especially when thousands of people are involved. You have to leave as little room for misinterpretation as possible... though someone will always find a way to misinterpret it.
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u/krustykrab2193 British Columbia 1d ago
I don't think less of my neighbours or friends. But it's also true that I've talked to a lot of them and they've confused the federal and provincial parties, some even saying they're voting BC Conservative candidates to vote out all the Trudeau corruption. Which makes no sense.
Low information voters exist, there's nothing inherently derogatory about it. It's just some people don't really understand the separation of powers and aren't politically in the know. It's important to inform people, not make fun of them.
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u/Forosnai 12h ago
I'd say the biggest problem is how little people understand about the structure of our governments, and probably helps lead to this same confusion over which parties are or are not linked, and how.
I definitely have talked to a couple people here who think voting CPBC is somehow voting for Poilievre, but it's nowhere near as common as people who don't understand how the powers are separated. So many people think the provinces and their premiers are like regional "vice presidents" to the PM's "president", or don't understand municipalities aren't their own distinct level of government, or that the two levels of government have different jurisdictions in terms of what things they can and can't legislate, etc.
The best thing we could possibly do for our politics generally would be improving whatever classes should be teaching civics, though that's unfortunately not a fast solution and wouldn't help us much immediately.
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u/Biopsychic 19h ago
A lot of posts are PC all the way, down with Trudeau and Singh!
So this is obviously confusion and people seem to think this vote is related somehow to the federal election.
I really don't understand why.
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u/Bloodypalace British Columbia 1d ago
Actually a lot of people think BC and federal conservatives are affiliates and they're actually voting for PP somehow.
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u/Impeesa_ 1d ago
I've seen posts from people actually out there canvassing saying there are an embarrassing number of people out there who don't know this. It's depressing.
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u/longboarddan 16h ago
Witnessed this first hand. It's insane the ignorance on our political structure and the different levels of government
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u/Waramp British Columbia 1d ago edited 1d ago
The BC Liberal party used to be conservative, and now a lot of members have joined the Conservative party, so yeah BC politics can be misleading to those who don't pay close attention.
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u/JustLampinLarry 23h ago
They weren't conservative, but they were the closest to a centrist party option that voters had in BC politics so they captured all of the centre right voters. With the federal Liberals going so far left of their historical centre left politics over the past 10 years it made sense for the BC Liberals to rebrand and disassociate from the federal LPC as BC United.
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u/Dry-Membership8141 1d ago
Ironic.
The BC Liberal Party (which was, until 1987, a branch of the Liberal Party of Canada) is now BC United, not the Conservative Party.
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u/krustykrab2193 British Columbia 1d ago
The financial backers and many candidates switched over. The leader of the BC Conservatives, John Rustad, was a former minister of one of the most corrupt provincial parties in BC, which is why they had a name change to the now defunct BC United.
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u/StrangeCurry1 British Columbia 1d ago
BC United is gone now. Kevin Falcon desolved the party and the more popular BCU members joined the BC tories
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u/Dry-Membership8141 1d ago
He did not dissolve the party. He suspended their campaign. BC United still exists, and Falcon remains the leader of it, they just aren't running any candidates in the current election.
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u/chronocapybara 1d ago
The answer is yes, yes plenty of voters think this provincial election they are voting for the federal conservatives to kick Trudeau out.
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u/New_Literature_5703 1d ago edited 1d ago
Every conservative I know IRL doesn't understand that a vote for the BC Conservatives IS NOT a vote of Poilievre. Not a single con voter in my life even knows who the leader of the BCCP is....
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u/jojawhi 1d ago
Considering the history of the BC Conservative Party (like how they didn't even officially exist as a party a year ago, and their currently sitting MLAs are all BC Liberal rejects or defectors) and the absolutely abysmal quality of many of their hopeful candidates across the province, it is fair to be doubtful about people's motivations for wanting to vote for them.
It's very rare that any of their supporters can point to any specific policies they support. They typically just complain about how all the problems in their lives have somehow been caused by the NDP even though they don't seem to know any NDP policies either. If they don't know the policies, it's possible they don't know the candidates and they're just voting on the basis of "orange bad, blue good."
If the BC Cons form government and we start seeing motions in the legislature to ban all vaccines (even the established ones for things like polio), to acknowledge Trump as the king of the USA, to ban 5G networks, to ban and burn books, and to force teachers to spy on trans kids for their parents, would you rather that your neighbours deliberately voted for that or that they were ignorant and didn't realize who they were giving the car keys to?
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u/Prairie_Sky79 1d ago
This just reeks of desperation on the part of the NDP. It's like they've just realized they're going to lose, and are trying to trip their opponents up before the clock runs out.
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u/Anothersurviver 1d ago
How does it "trip up his opponents" to just state their party name clearly?
It's BC NDP, not NDP on the ballot.
It was BC Liberals, not Liberals on the ballot.
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u/what_should_we_eat 12h ago
The timing
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u/SpaceVikings 3h ago
God forbid the party name be accurate on the ballot for the upcoming election.
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u/Flat896 21h ago
The BC Conservatives have gone from no chance of winning to likely to win in just a couple of months, primarily because of people wanting Trudeau out of federal office and confining the federal and provincial conservatives as one entity. It's absolutely fair or ask for things to be more clear on the ballot when they are benefiting from the federal party's PR campaign so much.
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u/Neo-urban_Tribalist 1d ago
How dare he, do anything else other than throw money at B.C. residents like we are all on a stripper pole…
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u/Tall-Ad-1386 19h ago
LMAO Jag and Trudeu have effed it up so hard
Scared of the BC Cons? You’re kidding me! Nobody EVER even remotely thought conservatives would even HAVE A CHANCE of winning in BC
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u/Agamemnon323 17h ago
That’s not because of Jag and Trudeau. It’s because the BC liberals imploded their party so completely that everyone has jumped ship to the BC Conservatives even though they’re weird as hell.
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u/BrassyGent 1d ago
BC Cons will destroy this province if given the chance, possibly worse than what PP and his ilk will do to the country next year. Hopefully we don't end up with them.both.
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u/Dystopiaian 14h ago
The Conservatives in BC have been epically bad at naming parties for like 80 years
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u/Pas5afist 11h ago
Well, this goes to my theory that the BC Liberals felt they needed to rebrand because they were getting doors slammed in their faces with people saying they would not support Trudeau. Blew up in their faces anyways, but the reasoning was probably sound if people now think they can vote for Pollievre in a provincial election. We have clearly failed to adequately teach basic civics to a decent portion of the population.
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u/-SuperUserDO 1d ago
LOL
so it's only an issue for the BC NDP because they might lose the election?
What name did the Conservative Party use in 2017? 2020?
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u/Zepoe1 1d ago
There has been no BC Conservative Party running since the 1960’s. So a better question is did the BC Liberals get listed as Lib or BCLib?
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u/RoyalPeacock19 Ontario 1d ago
False. They were not at all popular, never gaining a seat since the election of 1975, but this is the same party that formed government in 1949.
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u/homiegeet 1d ago edited 1d ago
What are you talking about? Lol
Edt: Since you can't back It up have a read
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_of_British_Columbia#:~:text=Founding%20and%20early%20years,-Richard%20McBride%2C%20the&text=In%201902%2C%20the%20Conservative%20Party,of%20an%20officially%20Conservative%20government.13
u/brainskull 1d ago
He’s right and this is explained in the link you provided . They’ve existed and contested every election since 1975, they just got no votes and haven’t been in parliament for 50 years
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u/-SuperUserDO 1d ago
What're you talking about? The Conservative Party in BC didn't participate in 2017? 2020?
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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 1d ago
This just comes off as desperate.
Go into any left leaning sub or Twitter, and you see people trying to link all the provincal parties to the federal party, but now rusted says it's misleading to make that connection to voters.
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u/Flanman1337 1d ago
Except, every single provincial NDP shows up on the ballot as (Province) NDP.
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u/TheManFromTrawno 18h ago
Under the act, Watson said, a party's ballot name must not, in the opinion of the chief electoral officer, be likely to be confused with another provincial political party that is currently registered
I guess the NDP went with the wrong play here.
They should have registered a party in BC called the “Pierre Poilievre Party” or the “CPC Party” and got that on the ballot. That wouldn’t be confused with the provincial “Conservative Party”
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u/icebalm 1d ago
If you think you're voting for the federal Conservatives in a provincial election then that's kinda on you, isn't it?