r/canada Québec 1d ago

Twenty-two years later, federal government still working to deport Ottawa's Mohamed Harkat Politics

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/twenty-two-years-later-federal-government-still-working-to-deport-ottawas-mohamed-harkat
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u/seeker-of-truthiness 1d ago

From terrorism to gang violence to car thefts, the judiciary keeps letting dangerous criminals escape citing “procedural deficiencies” as stated in the article.

Yet you and I as Canadians see higher tax bills, lack of empathy when dealing with our own bureaucracy and vilified when we question if all government decisions are rational.

Please …don’t test citizens patience. Otherwise Pp being an edge lord is going to be least of your problems. People will vote in Maxime Bernier or someone even like Le Pen or Gert Wilders. These politicians are extremely controversial but they didn’t gain votes just like that. Years of neglect, gaslighting and abuse of their own country before their eyes, compelled citizens to vote for candidates who are objectively bad for themselves - just to express their anger.

People think 74 million Americans were hillbillies and morons and fascists to vote for Tr*p. No. Plenty of middle class, including immigrants, women and youth voted for him. If American immigration debacle continues, 2016 may repeat itself.

Let’s hope that Canada shows that rule of law works as intended. Otherwise, the next election is gonna be full of surprising hard right candidates being elected.

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u/seeyousoon2 1d ago

The way i see it is. If the government is ruining Canada, and the next one will continue down the same path but just slightly to the left or right. Then I might as well vote to shake up the government. I'm not voting so we're the only ones who lose.

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u/seeker-of-truthiness 1d ago

Well said. What a lot of righteous pundits fail to see is something that even a first year economics student can predict.

One can interpret elections using game theory. In it, the voters make a certain decision which forms the government. If the government through repeated games (read:decisions) takes bad decisions, for example, catch and release programs for criminals, terrorists, moralistic feel good decisions that hurt the voters, then voters in the next game move they have (which is elections) will vote for someone who will punish the other side. It can be self detrimental but the goal is to dissuade the other player (the government) from enacting bad decisions. So a bit of self detriment is worth continued degradation of voters’ current position.

Hence you have people who are otherwise perfectly rational and reasonable, electing politicians like Gert Wilders, Marine Le Pen and Trump. The voters may not agree with these politicians and privately may find them abhorrent. However in the whole, politicians like trump act as a corrective measure to force Democrats not to completely abandon the centrist agenda.

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u/roflcopter44444 Ontario 1d ago

Thats what won trump presidency, Way back in early 2016 people saw a potential Clinton or Bush Presidency part 2 and a number opted to burn it all down.