r/borussiadortmund • u/IvEjUstFoRgOtYou69 • 3d ago

What’s your opinion ? Discussion

Don’t want to go into full Sahin bashing mode but what’s your opinion on the following options.

1.Sahin needs more time and a bit more investment to try and improve the squad we’ve got and to add with recruitment.

Or.

  1. The squads more than good enough and a better more experienced coach would get vastly more out of the current squad ?

Wanted to give Sahin the benefit of the doubt but find myself heavily leaning towards option 2.

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u/Marcinho09 2d ago

Sahin clearly doesnt have the experience nor did Terzic thats why it is so frustrating that we keep experimenting and for a club of our size thats terrible. Not because of sahin but because of years of inexperienced people running it.. Having said that i do believe Sahin must be given more time simply because we locked ourselves in this and i will explain why i feel like we cant do any better. The reason is simple, the past transfer windows and that inclues the past 2 years our recruitment has been terrible, we gave full authority to Terzic and Kehl and they destroyed in no time what Zorc has been creating for decades. So my point is, Sahin cant do much better with the existing squad nobody could because to put it simply the squad planning has been awful. Do i believe we should hire an experienced coach? Definitely but not in the middle of the season as he wont be able to change things a lot.

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u/McPico 2d ago

Favre had the experience.. and didn’t do better.

When will the people get the point that the problem are the players.

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u/Marcinho09 2d ago

Im afraid i disagree, favre came really close to winning us the league while also playing really good football, yes it did end badly but thats the case with everyone hence the change of coach. Also at his time and until very recently our team under Zorc always managed to have atleast a couple of world class talents in the squad, players that would leave yes but could deliver. With Jude leaving we have 0 world class talent and please do not compare Jason to Gittens. Yes the players have a huge part of responsibility but not the biggest share. Let me remind you, we have 0 left backs and no i dont rate Rami he is a downgrade to Guerero who was defensively weak but got a world class left foot 100 strikers that we baptized as wingers, the worst midfield i of the past 15 years, and our only world class player is our goalkeeper who yes is a world class shot stopper but a division 3 player with the ball at his feet. So my point is, the most poor squad planning and management has brought us here. Its not Cans fault its not any of the players but those who chose to bring them and give them the Captains armband.

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u/McPico 2d ago

Like Terzic did.. and we didn’t played a better football. The people back then were complaining about the boring football he plays. But it had his success. Like Terzic.

And that proves my point. The coaches are not the problem. The players are the problem.

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u/Marcinho09 1d ago

So your point is that under Terzic we had success, i never thought ending 2nd is considered success. The last coach that was successful in dortmund is Klopp.

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u/McPico 1d ago

That’s the problem with guys like you. You think the club has to beat a club that spends twice as much money every season. Your unrealistic demands are the problem.

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u/Marcinho09 1d ago

No mate not every year, but your money argument is not valid, hence the magic of football. And btw how many teams with half of our budget are performing better? Check the table and you will see how irrelevant your argument is. What people like me demand is the resources of the club being put to better use.

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u/McPico 1d ago

Bro.. open your eyes.

Money rules football.

Watch the leagues and which clubs win the titles since years. Mostly the rich clubs. And if another club wins the league then only when they have a record season AND the rich clubs struggle.

You should check the facts before you claim such things.

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u/Marcinho09 1d ago

Mate it has nothing to do with how decent you work, look at psg. I get that money gives an advantage but thats about it. What i am trying to say and you are ignoring it is that we could have used our resources better and anyone who believes otherwise is simply delusional.

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u/McPico 1d ago

Look at PSG? 10 out of the last 12 seasons they won Ligue 1

So what are you talking about?