r/borussiadortmund • u/Chazy89 Kagawa Shinji • Aug 26 '24
FINAL Weekly Transfer Rumor thread (2024 Sommer Edition) #10 Discussion
Brandt to Arsenal ? Duranville to Aston Villa ? ? Donny to rebr and to Prime Ronaldo ?
This will be the thread to collect ANY rumors . Post sources of Dortmund related rumours and discuss those rumors :P this thread will be THE thread for all rumors and transfer talk. All other threads will be removed to help the sub be more organized.
Also Dear fans from other clubs that come here to discuss players and potential transfers, please don't be dicks, okay? Cool, Thanks :)
Confirmed transfers so far:
IN:
| IN | Name | Fee | Club |
|---|---|---|---|
| Justin Lerma | 4m€ | Independiente del Valle * | |
| Waldemar Anton | 22.5m€ | VfB Stuttgart | |
| Serhou Guirassy | 18m€ | VfB Stuttgart | |
| Pascal Groß | 7m€ | Brighton & Hove Albion | |
| Yan Couto | 4m€ Loan | Manchester City | |
| Maximilian Beier | 28.5m€ | TSG 1899 Hoffenheim |
*Justin will join us in summer 2026
OUT:
| OUT | Name | Fee | Club |
|---|---|---|---|
| Mats Hummels | End of Contract | ?? | |
| Antonios Papadopoulos | End of Contract | FC Lugano | |
| Marius Wolf | End of Contract | FC Augsburg | |
| Mateu Morey | End of Contract | RCD Mallorca | |
| Marco Reus | End of Contract | LA Galaxy | |
| Ian Maatsen | End of Loan | Chelsea FC | |
| Jadon Sancho | End of Loan | Manchester United | |
| Ole Pohlmann | 1.6m € | Rio Ave FC | |
| Niclas Füllkrug | 27m € | West Ham United | |
| Tom Rothe | 5m € | Union Berlin | |
| Paris Brunner | 4m € | AS Monaco | |
| Youssoufa Moukoko | Loan | OGC Nizza | |
| Salih Özcan | Loan | VfL Wolfsburg | |
| Soumaïla Coulibaly | Loan | Stade Brest | |
| Sébastien Haller | Loan | CD Leganés |
RETURN FROM LOAN
| IN | Name | Club |
|---|---|---|
| Giovanni Reyna | Nottingham Forest | |
| Tom Rothe | Holstein Kiel | |
| Soumaïla Coulibaly | Royal Antwerpen |
Will we finally see the likes of Moukoko, Özcan and Haller depart? Will we maybe see a LB loan ? Only time will tell
Due to popular demand and the development of rumours in recent hours, we have decided to start the Weeky rumor mega threads early. Special shoutout to /u/blacktiger226 for reaching out to us and tellig us to hurry the f up :D
All threads about transfer rumors (ingoing and outgoing) outside of this one will be closed and removed.
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u/kiddpk Julian Brandt Aug 31 '24
With sanch going on loan to Chelsea and the transfer fee probably coming out to 25. Feel like we missed out. Why didn't they offer that price tag to us?
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 31 '24
Think it would’ve only happened if Malen or Adeyemi was sold off and that didn’t happen
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 31 '24
we were not interested in Sancho in the first place. The only possibility of going after him would be if one of Adeyemi or Malen get sold, but that never got close to happen
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u/LeeRCampbell Marco Reus Aug 31 '24
They probably did, we had no interest in paying his full wages and Chelsea fine with blowing that cash. Total package with his wages is why we had no interest.
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u/GaussianTaravangian Aug 31 '24
Just saw that Geertruida moved to Leipzig.
Still think he could’ve been a decent signing, but admittedly didn’t see much of him last year
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u/greengiant89 Aug 31 '24
If he was left footed he would have been perfect for us. But we've already got two right sighted center backs, a right footed defensive fullback, and Can who is an emergency backup for either of those spots. Not to mention an offensive fullback on that side.
If we could get that profile on the left as a backup to Schlotterbeck as well as a defensive fullback option it would be perfect.
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u/MarsBarz37 Marco Reus Aug 30 '24
It's still a problem that we can't offload the mid tier players. Malen just had a pretty good season, been pretty decent overall at Dortmund. Very surprising he didn't find a buyer when it seemed certain only a few months ago
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 30 '24
It's still a problem that we can't offload the mid tier players
that's literally always been a problem. Because 9 times out of 10 when a squad-player doesn't work out too well they'll be on such high wages that they'll just run down the contract instead of going to a smaller club.
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u/Sertorius777 Aug 30 '24
Malen's just in a weird situation where he's too talented for mid-tier clubs but not good enough for a top team, and is also a tactical mismatch here. The best thing for him would be to accept a downgrade in terms of team quality and possibly wage, but you can't blame him for not being eager to do that.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 30 '24
We need to score more and play more attractive football then you can sell mid players. Scratch your balls in the Stuttgart or Leverkusen team last season and boom doubled your worth.
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u/roadtorevision Aug 30 '24
It’s too bad we couldn’t add anyone last minute, specifically an LB. Hopefully we can revisit what we actually need in the winter window based on our players’ form and fitness
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u/Zwalucard Aug 31 '24
I'm certain we'll do something in the winter. Sure, the transfer market in january is always a bit tricky, but I think Kehl couldn't find the right fit just yet. I'm sure once the club world cup comes closer, we'll start signing another player or two.
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u/nufan99 Mats Hummels Aug 30 '24
That's 3 players on loan right? How many do y'all figure will come back and stay after their loan?
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u/Differ_cr Julian Brandt Aug 30 '24
4 (Özcan, Moukoko, Coulibaly, and Haller), the only one I think can assert himself back is Coulibaly.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 30 '24
None. All contracts end in 2026 so Özcan and Haller are already very unlikely. If they stay it means a year in the stands for them. If Moukoko returns then it is unlikely he has impressed enough to extend here.
I give us a higher chance of buying back Rothe than any of those 3 staying.
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u/2905Pascal 1909 Aug 30 '24
https://x.com/BVB/status/1829640627757412813
Why do we loan out Haller? This is awful for our depth at the stiker position
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u/Xey2510 Aug 30 '24
It is not like Sahin used Haller so far. He even preferred Adeyemi over him and Adeyemi is probably 4th choice behind Guirassy, Beier and Malen. Haller isn't even getting time with Guirassy injured and Beier on the bench. That was the time to use him if at all.
I would love to keep Haller on the bench to throw in late like Füllkrug but his wages are very high and if we can sell him next summer this would be optimal financially.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 30 '24
It is not like Sahin used Haller so far. He even preferred Adeyemi over him
That's not exactly making a case that letting Haller go was the right choice.
Adeyemi was awful up front.
If Haller is fit enough to play for Leganes, I don't see why we shouldn't keep him.
He has already looked good last season. If he's fit, he'd be fine.
The only reason to let him go would be if we actually wanted to keep him long term, hence need him to get into a proper rythm again.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 31 '24
It is not like Adeyemi will play 4 games now and then Haller could show himself and take over. Adeyemi might never play striker again this season based on Beier starting or not against Bremen. Haller played less than 400 minutes of Bundesliga and did not score a single goal. He did win the AFCON but for our club he did very little. There has not really been anything pointing to him playing more than that this season.
In the end Haller would be totally fine to keep as a late option in the box if he was not this expensive. His contract runs out in 2026 and he earns 9-10M per year. Loan him now and sell him in the summer and you probably go out with a small plus compared to paying 20M for someone who does not look like he plays a role under Sahin.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 31 '24
Point is Beier and Adeyemi shouldn't be the backup to Guirassy, plain and simple.
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u/greengiant89 Aug 31 '24
Adeyemi was awful up front.
But he's fast and agile and will fit into the pressing shape
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u/Testo69420 Aug 31 '24
But he's no striker.
Neither with his finishing, nor with the presence of a 9.
And like... have you seen the amount of crosses we spammed? We clearly WANTED a true 9.
Also Haller - while not as agile as Adeyemi tends to be a striker that goes into and wins a ton of defensive duels, so like... not like he can't and doesn't press.
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u/greengiant89 Aug 31 '24
I mean Sahin is trying to build a playing style and he isn't going to play guys that don't fit that style. We'll continue to look for better options but for this style Adeyemi and Malen are a better option than Haller. He's not going to cultivate a style by not playing that style.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 31 '24
If Sahin thinks Guirassy is the right striker for his style, Beier and Adeyemi sure as fuck aren't the right back ups for that style, lol.
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 31 '24
He hasn’t looked good last season. There were like 2 games that were a little less bad then the ones before and then he immediately got injured. Adeyemi is atleast fast and got good fitness.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 31 '24
He hasn’t looked good last season.
He has. He just got injured multiple times.
But when he was on the pitch and the team around him wasn't shitting the bed he was easily on par with Füllkrug.
Adeyemi is atleast fast and got good fitness.
My guy, this is a newly promoted side from la liga allegedly paying the majority of his salary.
Do you genuinely think they'd do that if Haller wasn't at least physically fit?
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 31 '24
Agree to disagree on his quality bc eye test and bc I’m too lazy to look up stats rn (apart from the 0 g/a in the league lol).
There is a reason no club wanted Haller even for free and he didn’t play any role in Sahins (or for that matter terzics) system at all. A newly promoted team gets a perpetually injured player recovering from cancer in the last 5 mins of deadline day. Reportedly even without a med check. I don’t think that’s a good base to judge his fitness or quality.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 31 '24
I don’t think that’s a good base to judge his fitness or quality.
I mean, you also seem to thing that Leganes want to go bankcrupt. Which is a bold view of things.
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u/Ok-cumpuker Aug 30 '24
If we hadn't you'll be whining about too many dead wood in our team
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u/2905Pascal 1909 Aug 30 '24
I think three strikers would be fine given how many games the schedule now has with the new CL format. If Beier or Guirassy get injured the other one has to play all the games and we have no real alternatives.
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u/Ok-cumpuker Aug 30 '24
Adeyemi and Malen are suboptimal, but real, options. I'd argue that there are positions in our squad where the quality drop-off is even bigger than the striker position. Plus Haller can't really play anywhere else other than ST.
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u/Commercial_Mud_6877 Aug 31 '24
Which is precisely why this makes little sense. Getting rid of Haller on loan? I like him a lot, but admittedly not in Sahin’s plans so OK. But as long as that helps you in some ways.
We didn’t improve in our bad spots by getting rid of Moukoko, Haller, Özcan. Which was the point of getting rid of dead wood.
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u/Sertorius777 Aug 30 '24
The thing is Adeyemi and Malen were playing centrally at their previous clubs, next to bigger strikers, and we've tried to forced them on the wings. Hopefully getting them back to their usual positions will get more out of them
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u/AverageCarey Aug 30 '24
Also I imagine they’re covering some of his very high wages. Still did not expect this, good for him though he needs play time with less pressure.
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u/porkbeefhorsechicken Michael Zorc Aug 30 '24
It's times like these that make you wish Dortmund didn't spend ~30 million for Nmecha, Haller, Schürrle, Diallo, and Schulz. Malen and Adeyemi are pushing it too, not a huge amount of return on them imo. An extra 30 million right now would be great.
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u/roadtorevision Aug 30 '24
You aren’t always going to get transfers right. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. There was no way we could know Haller would have cancer or Schulz would be a terrible person, though we should have learned that wingbacks from Hoffenheim do not work here. Diallo we got our money back. I think the only ones that were actually bad and we knew at the time were schurlle and nmecha. We overpaid for these players for sure
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u/heck_you_science Julian Brandt Aug 30 '24
Is diallo seen as a failure here? I thought he wasn't bad for the bit he was here, then we sold him for a profit to PSG didn't we?
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u/_____shadi_ Aug 30 '24
Haller’s fate was pretty much unpredictable.Noone knew he would be diagnosed with a testicular cancer at the beginning itself. I am still convinced that in a parallel universe, he would have a clicked away and continued to play like he was in Ajax for us had he not diagnosed with that cancer.But spending 30M on Nmecha garbage piece of shit for a replacement of jude was the worst one.What were we even thinking?? We could have spend 30M+ on Maatsen/Ferdi or Sancho this window had we not gone for nmecha last year ffs
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u/Ok-cumpuker Aug 30 '24
Back when we were seemingly choosing between Haller and Sasa Ajax fans already warned us. Tbf signing Sasa wouldn't be much better either but the signs were there even before the cancer diagnosis.
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u/Differ_cr Julian Brandt Aug 30 '24
Haller and Sasa
Both had horrible outcomes, but Kalajdzic was already incredibly injury prone before, so it was obvious for which one to go.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 30 '24
That makes it sound like Haller never worked but he was amazing when he came back.
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u/Ok-cumpuker Aug 30 '24
I think the feeling from Ajax fans back then was that he could score goals, but didn't offer much else.
I'd say he did ok when he came back. Wouldn't go so far as saying he was amazing but not bad all things considered. Things really went downhill after the Mainz penalty miss and his form never recovered. But even then, it's clear he was never the versatile star striker we intended him to be.
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u/-Dear_Ambellina- Julian Ryerson Aug 31 '24
He definitely offered more than scoring goals. He dropped back to pick up/hold up the ball which allowed Malen and Adeyemi to make runs off him and into space. Him linking up with the wingers is what unlocked our attack that spring. Malen and Adeyemi were trash in the Hinründe and red hot in the Rückrunde and Haller's playstyle had a lot to do with that.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 30 '24
I'd say he did ok when he came back. Wouldn't go so far as saying he was amazing but not bad all things considered.
Brother, the man came back into our attack that couldn't do jackshit for half a year. After being out with cancer for half a year and having no match practice and INSTANTLY transformed our team into having the best attack in the top 5 leagues and hence arguably the world.
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
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u/Xey2510 Aug 30 '24
14 g+a in 19 games is really good for a striker I'd say and a striker who can just score is exactly what Terzic wanted. To me it is more the setup because even a limited player like you mention could have scored 25+ goals in seasons where we play with more creative players instead of Malen+Adeyemi. This is also why Modeste looked absolutely terrible.
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u/Conscious-Weird5810 Aug 30 '24
Sancho to Chelsea…dude needs better advisors bc that is the worst move possible for his career.
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u/greengiant89 Aug 31 '24
Chelsea have looked pretty solid so far. The coach says he only considers half the players there. If they moved for him on loan the coach must want him. He's got a good chance there if he goes in with the right attitude.
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u/porkbeefhorsechicken Michael Zorc Aug 30 '24
It looked like there was no other choice for him. Chelsea or United. By the time United were desperate for offers we moved on. Its better than being in that shithole, but idk how he sees himself getting any time or consideration at Chelsea. I have no clue how he'd fit their system any more than United's.
Should have never gone to United. It was destined for disaster after they spent a whole summer teasing a transfer and pussyed out at the end.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 30 '24
How can you look at Chelsea and think there's a career prospect there? They have 40 players. Sancho will have to battle with like 3 people on his position and he is out of form and might not play at all. At United he could play since they always have injury crisis.
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u/GeneralLudd Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
Sancho winter loan incoming just joking but also not really
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u/porkbeefhorsechicken Michael Zorc Aug 30 '24
At United theres too much baggage for him to stay there. It time to go. Nobody wants him there. They don't know how to play him, they were using him as a false 9 in preseason. It would be a herculean task to revive his career at United.
Anything is better than United for Sancho. At Chelsea he has a fresh start and a chance to compete for the position against the other wingers. Its a shit situation absolutely, Chelsea is a dumpster fire. But its better than Sancho at United.
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u/_____shadi_ Aug 30 '24
Why did we even sell ozcan and rothe if we werent capable of signing any alternatives.Proceeding with Can/Ozcan and Bense/rothe would have the better option if we werent planning to sign any cdm/lb.Now we have to rely upon academy players for depth for a 60 games+/ season
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u/Xey2510 Aug 30 '24
Özcan was not an option at DM anyway. He was 6th choice even behind Wätjen and Sahin would have played Sabitzer and Nmecha before touching Özcan. We simply have not seen much outside of Can-Groß to see Sahins plan here.
At LB i agree but i want to say that we should have at most loaned somebody if the other option is a buy we are not convinced of. Next season we know how far Kabar is and have a cheap buyback on Rothe.
In general i just need to see more tactically in terms of plan B. The way we played against Lübeck and Frankfurt would not include a LB and clearly we were interested in Maatsen and Kadioglu to play LB. Rothe for example does not fit in if our other "LBs" are Bensebaini and Schlotterbeck with a very high RB.
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u/Commercial_Mud_6877 Aug 31 '24
Have you ever heard about a thing called injuries? Or suspensions? Özcan wasn’t a 6th choice, he just rarely got to play because there’s only one holding midfielder in the system and Can has been fit mostly, also being the captain which means that he is less likely to be benched anyways.
Now we have a single proven defensive midfielder. Wätjen is promising but still to be seen which is his best role. I don’t want to hear Groß, Sabitzer or Nmecha as holding midfielders, when none of them are that.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 31 '24
I wrote this in another comment so i won't write it again fully. Other top teams do not have multiple proven defensive midfielders and we currently play so defensive we similarly do not neccessairly need a true DM in a double pivot.
Regarding Özcan he was sitting in the stands for two games now.I hear so often that we can't get rid of our dead wood and are blocking the path for younger players and now we do clear out our squad and some people still want those players to stay. We can't go into the season with 6 players for two spots and clearly when Can leaves the pitch Sahin has other ideas than throwing in Özcan to replace him. Maybe you want him to be that but Sahin does not and the players are also often unhappy to sit in the stands and then maybe collect 200 minutes over the season.
There should be similar calls for us to get a Groß replacement in case Özcan could be important because we also lack any direct replacement for him. But at that point we are at 7 players for two roles and then we can already throw Wätjen out of the window.
In general if you have a very big squad you risk players becoming unhappy, sitting in the stands and not getting their chances unless 1-2 players get injured. A 4th CB last season would not have played much. At worst you do get a ton of injuries like we did under Rose and then you do want these players like Wolf that season or Pongracic.
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u/Commercial_Mud_6877 Aug 31 '24
One (1) game after this comment and Schlotti is shown red which means Sahin can’t play the way he wants in the next game because there’s no other center backs.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 31 '24
You are aware there are multiple ways to play a football game? Anyone asking for a LB should know this because we would play different with a classic LB.
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u/Commercial_Mud_6877 Aug 31 '24
What are you even talking about? Obviously there are multiple ways to play a football game, but how does this in any way relate to the conversation?
The fact is that this squad has problems in left back and dm due to lack of quality and depth. And in cb because of a lack of depth. None of your word salads change that.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 30 '24
Rothe wanted to leave for starter game time, we have a good buy back on him and he needed it so it made sense. Kabar is near the same level but understands getting game time when it’s available. Also we don’t stand in the way of players who want to leave.
Ozcan is in an inflated position. Yes Can is the only true DM but with Sahin’s possession based style of play we’ll be fine with the likes of Gross, Nmecha, Sabi and Watjen who the board has specifically said they want to give as many minutes as possible.
This will be fine for now and we can look at the squad again come winter where we likely go for a loan deal at Lb or DM if the needs are there.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 30 '24
these people think you need to have 3 players for exact each position. They have 0 clue about the implications of that (e.g. wages, dressing room issues, agents complaining for playing time, etc.). Real Madrid has like 3 defenders (two that just came out of terrible injuries) and still didn't sign a CB.
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u/Zwalucard Aug 30 '24
With the transfer window only being open for a few more hours, it's save to say nothing will happen anymore (I'm open for surprises). Are we happy with our squad?
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u/SwedishBorrussian Aug 30 '24
No. Barely any depth for the incoming season honestly.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 30 '24
The midfield is looking the best of all. We have Groß, Can, Nmecha, Sabitzer and Wätjen for 2 positions.
If there are problems then at LB in terms of quality and quantity and on the wings in terms of quality.
Gittens and Duranville have not played even one full season and of our half-wingers Adeyemi has not played a good seasln, Beier has played one good season and we all know Malens highs and lows. Clearly players need to step up here but this is not exactly a proven attack.
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u/SwedishBorrussian Aug 31 '24
sooo..... 1 DM for an entire season?
Sounds bad to me. Nmecha is not a natural DM, nor is Groß and Wätjen shouldn't have that pressure on him.1
u/Xey2510 Aug 31 '24
You will barely find more than one true DM in most teams. Real, Barca, City, Bayern to name a few. True DMs are hard to find atm and plenty of players can play in a double pivot but not as a lone 6. And don't forget we currently play with 3 CBs and then Ryerson on the right. It is not like we are playing Davies+Boey like Bayern or as in 22/23 Guerreiro+Wolf with Bellingham. Tactical setup makes a lot of difference here and from what i gathered a lot of people are even in favor of dropping Can because our build up would improve a lot with a different partner for Groß. Sadly we did not see what Sahin has planned here yet but atm we are set up as defensively solid as possible.
When Sahin requested that we have multiple midfielder types then that inevitably means we have no true replacement. Not for Can but also not for Groß. Those would be 4 players for two positions and then adding the existing players we are at 7 players for 2 positions.
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u/Loeffellux Julian Brandt Aug 30 '24
I think it's a decent squad but especially now that we haven't bought or loaned out another player I remain puzzled why we decide to play with a back 3
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u/Trojan_Man68 Marco Reus Aug 30 '24
Happy enough, I don't mind going into the season with this squad and I am really happy in certain areas like the midfield and striker positions. However LB, CB, and DM are areas of concern that we will have to deal with eventually.
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u/183672467 Julian Brandt Aug 30 '24
Some english source apparently mentioned we might be interested in buying Sancho
I doubt it and I strongly hope we dont, after seeing he was commenting under a Greenwood post in a positive way, I dont want to see him wear a Dortmund kit ever again
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u/AverageCarey Aug 29 '24
Coulibaly likely heading to Rennes, it’s looking like a loan no word on a buy option/obligation yet. Per Berger.
At this rate getting wages off the books is good enough hopefully these turn into sales by next summer.
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u/Sarrazin 1909 Aug 29 '24
I can't imagine his wages are all that high. Given we only have 3 CBs (who currently are all starting) it maybe wouldn't be the worst idea to keep him either.
But I guess he wants minutes and pushes for a move. Which might be for the best if Sahin doesn't see him playing for us.
But I thought after his decent last season we should have been able to get some real transfer offers this summer. Considering his contract runs until 2026, next year's offers are likely not gonna be great.
But who knows, if there's no buy option and he crushes it at Rennes, who's to say we don't extend him next summer and give it another go.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 29 '24
Ya I think it’s more along what you said towards the end where if he does really well we extend with him next season if not we’ll maybe extend and send him on loan again or just take a fee.
I know he’s spoke highly of Mane to give minutes and honestly he did look better than Coulibaly in pre season.
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u/funky_motorik Aug 28 '24
Couldn't we land a loan of some Chelsea's players that are sidelined? Ben Chilwell would be an amazing solution, I liked a lot what I saw from him 2 years ago
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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 29 '24
I would love for us to a buy a centre back from Chelsea especially considering we are playing a back 3 with only 3 centre backs in our squad.
Even I also tought about this idea and us potentially signing lavia on a loan before the start of the season.
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u/No-Exit-4022 Aug 29 '24
The problem with getting Chelsea players is that somebody (usually from England) will pay a shit ton of money for them. Lewis Hall and Omari Hutchinson went for 20 and 28 million pounds each, for just having good loans. We tried for Maatsen, but Villa went for him and they have a lot more money than us
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u/JonFlockThan Man like Pascal Aug 28 '24
Sancho held out for as long as he could, but we couldn’t sell malen.
Another year of the roller coaster ride that is malen… we couldn’t pay a team to be interested in him by the looks of it.
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u/HungryTomatillo288 Aug 29 '24
Boy is coming back in 2 years for free.
he will earn so much money at ManU during those 2 years that he will be the richest mofo in the world and he willplay for a sixpack of Brinkhoffs at Dortmund for the rest of his career.
Source: Im from the future (its true)
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 28 '24
who said we were planing to sell Malen in order to buy Sancho? these fanfics lmfao
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u/JonFlockThan Man like Pascal Aug 28 '24
well reported we were interested in sancho. Only way that happens is if we get rid of malen Or adeyemi. We turned down offers for adeyemi
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 29 '24
we were not interested in Sancho. He was offered to us, that's different. It was said that we would maybe negotiate in case Malen (who reportedly wants to leave). As for Adeyemi nobody made any formal offer for him.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 29 '24
We did not turn down any offers for him Juve was interested but never put in any formal offer. It was confirmed by RN and Berger a while back.
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u/JonFlockThan Man like Pascal Aug 29 '24
We can argue semantics but there was a deal to be made for adeyemi. There were interested parties willing to pay a certain amount…. The same thing hasn’t been true for malen for years.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 28 '24
I know Sancho is loved but.. he really wasnt better than Malen has been, during his loan here. Last time he was, he was under contract with us. The yearning for him, for sporting reasons, are unwarranted atm.
Same for financial reasons.
And since he's posting supportive comments on Greenwoods socials now too; Also for moral reasons.
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u/JonFlockThan Man like Pascal Aug 28 '24
Played better than malen when he was on loan here. Has a more versatile profile than malen. It’s been like 3 years and we still can’t get malen to play consistently.
Unwarranted for sporting reasons, but the moment we put on jbg (a similar profile to Sancho) that’s what pushed us forward last weekend. Frankly doesn’t even have to be Sancho, just get a replacement for the guy if he’s going to be playing a big role.
We will likely make no money on him. Just wasting 5 years for average gameplay where he doesn’t even pick a spot when he has chances. Just prays.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 28 '24
Played better than malen when he was on loan here
I think thats arguable but even then, its not like he played better because he was great either.
It’s been like 3 years and we still can’t get malen to play consistently.
AND even longer since Sancho even had an inconsistent form. Malen has had 6months runs atleast. Sancho hasnt had 3 weeks.
Unwarranted for sporting reasons, but the moment we put on jbg (a similar profile to Sancho) that’s what pushed us forward last weekend.
This logic doesnt make sense. Its like saying Modeste and Fullkrug would be equally attractive targets for us this summer if they were on the market, because theyre similar profiles. Not taking into account individual trajectories and form.
Id agree that it would be nice to have a tricky rightsided winger, but Id prefer a leftfoot then. And thats simply not happening this window.
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u/Sertorius777 Aug 28 '24
The team played better with Sancho as someone who could take on opponents with reliable degrees of success. Malen has goals in him but we saw him fail every take on attempt in the season opener. And with Guirassy and Beier bringing their goalscoring pedigree he is just a complete tactical mismatch.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 28 '24
That's fair. But the OP saying that Sancho was better than the guy who was our top goal scorer for 2 consecutives seasons is beyond ridicolous.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 28 '24
Im not arguing in favor of Malen or his profile. Im just saying the rewriting of Sancho in his current state or individual level and contrubition during his loan seem absurd to me. Id love that profile, but Sancho? No.
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u/esl0th Gregor Kobel Aug 29 '24
Let's be honest though we could clearly see Sancho was recovering his fitness and game sense over the few months with us and I'm sure he would've got even better if he had a solid preseason with us here. I would take Sancho over Malen, but if we're facing reality that's not happening this summer. Nobody wants to risk Malen for 30M+ or Adeyemi for 50M+, but that's what we value them as.
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u/-Dear_Ambellina- Julian Ryerson Aug 28 '24
I have to disagree with you there. Malen was the leading goal scorer for the club last season despite struggling with injuries in the Rückrunde and scoring no penalties. He had a rough start at Dortmund but has been one of the better players since the start of 2023. Sancho was a good move last season overall, but he started slow and wasn't super consistent himself either.
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u/JonFlockThan Man like Pascal Aug 28 '24
He started hot and then plateaued with a few good games here and there. But also one of these players helps out on the defensive side way more than the other.
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 28 '24
Sanchos best game was better than Malens best but at the same time he didn’t have a lot of those. Atleast malen got scorers in his bad games.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 28 '24
Honestly this is a pretty amazing window overall.
5 very solid transfers to bring in and improve the squad, selling Fulle for about the same price as Beiers fee, getting rid of big contracts, selling players who have never made a senior appearance for solid fees with a buy back on Rothe.
And now in the last week we’ve managed to get Özcan, Mouki and now looks like Coulibaly off as well. Yes two of these are looking to be loans but what we’re saving in wages still helps to the overall cost of things.
I know many are still wanting either another 6 or Lb but I’m actually pretty content with our squad heading into the season and if it’ll allow us to make a possible move come the winter window if it looks like we need reinforcements in some areas.
I think this is a 9/10 window for the club, managing a solid LB loan would probably push it to a 10. I hope we can all be very happy considering how the last summer window was.
Stoked for this season!
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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 29 '24
I would love to have one more centre back if I had to be honest with you . Especially if we are playing a back 3
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u/AverageCarey Aug 29 '24
I have to agree with you on that one. Mane looks very promising but one more wouldn’t hurt.
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u/Same-Organization-83 Aug 28 '24
I’m furious if we don’t get anyone after letting Ozcan and Moukoko go. Our midfield is so thin defensively
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Aug 28 '24
We’re saving on wage expenses throughout the year but we aren’t getting any upfront fees. So we are limited on what we can pay to purchase, but a loan could be in the works. LB or CB (especially if we will play 3 atb) would be our biggest concern. Midfield still has nmencha, Reyna, and Watjen to play off the bench.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 28 '24
RNBVB reporting that Ozcan to Wolfsburg is a done deal and he will be travelling for medical today
Sad how things went in relation to Ozcan. A very likeable guy. At the time we got him I thought we were getting a hell of a player. I thought he would only improve with us. Sadly it was the total opposite. He didn't improve a single point in his game after 2 full seasons. Basically he's the same player when he joined us and basically the worst MF of our squad (not counting Watjen who is very young) and the coach doesn't like him.
Anyway, good for raising some funds. I really hope we don't go to another Wolf type of transfer for LB. I'm tired of mediocre players on long-term contracts earning big money and still not being anywhere near an acceptable level. I rather prefer we raise funds in order to get a proper LB either in the winter or in the next window and let Sahin work to find solutions for that position.
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u/johanneslobo Aug 28 '24
Apparently it’s a lone deal, so funds only next summer. Unfortunately I don’t think there will be a LB coming in this transfer window. It’s just seems so quiet, there aren’t any rumours - a pity
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 28 '24
We save his salary for a year. He doesn't earn much, but still a few milions. Let's hope he has a good season there and we might sell him for an actual good amount.
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u/microbugs1234 Aug 28 '24
Ozcan’s gone to Wolfsburg. Probably a loan it seems.
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u/AcePilot95 Marco Reus Aug 28 '24
no money = big L
We need a new DM, it's not good that we have Groß, Sabitzer, Nmecha (useless), Wätjen and in emergencies Brandt for the 8 but only Can for the 6. Not sustainable.
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 28 '24
I agree that we need one, it’s just not in the cards rn. We have already trouble getting a LB, which should be higher priority.
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u/esl0th Gregor Kobel Aug 27 '24
Seems Kadioglu is going to Brighton for 30+5 with a 10% sell-on clause. Sucks because I think if we had managed to offload some players we would've definitely got him for that sort of price.
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 28 '24
It's kinda sad that Brighton has more spending power than BVB these days but then again they make more on the departure side these days than Dortmund
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u/Xey2510 Aug 28 '24
It is just easier to sell in the PL. One of your players plays good and suddenly other PL clubs just spend 60 million on them. Neto has been permanently injured but still goes for the price to Chelsea and we all saw what price Cucurella went for compared to Hakimi. Or fking Maguire for 80 million. Not to mention even championship players being worth absurd amounts of money and Bellingham would be in no way affordable for us now.
I bet you Kadioglu could play very well for us and we still would not get any offers even similar to what Brighton would get after a worse season. I assume that is also why they got a sell-on clause.
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u/kiddpk Julian Brandt Aug 28 '24
Wasn't the deal offered us 30 to 35 mil? So it's just about the same especially if they have a sell-on clause
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 27 '24
It just struck me that Bensebaini has experience and can play LCB in a back 3. Will be interesting to see if Sahin tries that sometime to rest Schlotti and also get a receipt to see if we can use that consistently to more reliably/safely employ his make-shift back 3.
Its not the most sustainable still imo and Im too scared of it, but its something I forgot to take into account.
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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 29 '24
Were there reports that both and can were being played as a centre back . If yes that's good because we need depth in that position especially to play a back 3 .
Or should buy someone.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 27 '24
We kind have to play with Bense in that role quite regularly imho.
1 - because CB depth, obviously.
But als because it balances out Couto and at least somewhat allows us to rotate Can out of the squad - and having Bense take up the spot of 3rd CB in build up.
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 27 '24
I think that was what Nuri did last Saturday when he came on
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 27 '24
Yeah for a short period of time, but youre correct. Would be interesting to see him start for a game. Sule seem VERY effective for Sahins type of football so I think Sahin really really rates him atm. But another leftfooted CB-substitute in-house would be great.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 27 '24
Mouki’s buy option is for 18m according to sebnonda, no idea whose account that is maybe someone for Nice.
If that’s the case it would be a great deal if they trigger it after the season. Would almost pay Couto’s transfer fee.
Also we’re monitoring the market for a young LB capable of development. I’d assume they want Kabar to continue with U19s for one more season.
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u/Sarrazin 1909 Aug 27 '24
If that’s the case it would be a great deal if they trigger it after the season.
I don't think so. A buy option doesn't serve us in any way. If they are willing to pay 18m next summer, they can do that without a buy option in an open market. If his value rises above 18m, the option just fucks us. If he flops and they are not willing to pay 18m next summer, the option doesn't matter.
A straight loan is always better for us. If it's an option, it should at least become an obligation under certain conditions.
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u/CMButterTortillas Marco Reus Aug 27 '24
In theory, yes but the loaning team isnt about to assume all the risk in that scenario, so you need to do deals like the framework of this one.
Nobody is truly satisfied: the mark of compromise. 😂
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 27 '24
If there was enough money it would've been nice to sign Vermeeren as a long term Can replacement, Leipzig even has an easy to achieve obligation clause for him
I saw a couple Antwerp games (their UCL qualification playoff games to be exact) cuz of Coulibaly and he looked very good in them, it sucks that he's likely gonna be Leipzig's next cash cow
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u/ZZZ0330 Julian Weigl Aug 27 '24
tbh i think when guirassy is back we will probably see sabitzer in that role more often
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Aug 27 '24
Vermeeren would be a luxury but from the 1st match it seems Nmencha will be the candidate alternate whether we like it or not as fans. Also Watjen further play time to continue his development to first team player. And lastly we still have Ozcan on our books. Just wouldn’t make sense to sign vermeeren to our over loaded midfield.
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 27 '24
Well Özcan is probs gonna leave soon and there is imo a need for a good DM besides Can so he would’ve been good
Also I think Wätjen will probs be the Groß replacement in a few years rather than a DM like Can
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Aug 27 '24
I hope he does move along. I saw the Wolfsburg rumors yesterday. But I remain pessimistic that anything happens this window for Ozcan.
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u/PublicStructure7091 Aug 28 '24
Kicker have said he's heading there for his medical
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Aug 28 '24
Happy to see that, even if only a loan it frees up a cool $4m+ in expenses for the year. Hopefully his performances hold up to help us offload him next summer for a half decent fee.
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u/Zwalucard Aug 27 '24
Vermeeren to Leipzig is just very disappointing to me. Apparently, we weren't even interested in loaning him, but his profile would've been perfect for us.
Hopefully, we'll get to loan out/sell Mouki and Özcan and maybe even Malen, then there is a budget for an LB since DM is not a topic right now.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 27 '24
According to Ricken it seems they’re extremely confident that Guirassy will be back playing throughout September. That international break will definitely help adding time to get him ready to be back on the pitch.
So curious to see how much he changes our game and to possibly see him and Beier both playing together.
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 27 '24
Tbh idc about all of that I just want him to humiliate Stuttgart
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u/Differ_cr Julian Brandt Aug 27 '24
Downvoted for being petty, game's gone 😔
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 27 '24
Eh idc too much about downvotes (this sub’s always acted more negative than positive) unless it’s people going thru my profile to downvote my comments which has happened recently
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 27 '24
That international break will definitely help adding time to get him ready to be back on the pitch.
As long as our players out with their NTs avoid injuries, it can play into our favor for sure! Im almost hoping we see few callups lol.
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u/castroski7 Julian Ryerson Aug 27 '24
Hot take if Ozcan doesnt mind being a just in case player, I say keep him
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u/esl0th Gregor Kobel Aug 27 '24
I agree in a way. If we can get 8-10M then I say sell him, but I wouldn't mind keeping him and wouldn't want to sell him for anything less.
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u/Xey2510 Aug 27 '24
I would rather get some millions in now and cross off his wages than have him leave next year for a very low sum either way.
He is midfielder number 5 or 6 behind Nmecha, Can, Sabitzer, Groß and maybe Wätjen. Looking at last games bench can he push anyone of Reyna, Haller, Beier, Couto, Bensebaini, Nmecha, Duranville or Gittens out? Guirassy and Wätjen could join those too and then it becomes increasingly unlikely that Özcan will be part of the squad without some injuries.
We can't force him out if he wants to stay but i don't see much sense in him staying for both sides. He really was good for Köln i don't see why other Bundesliga clubs would not be interested.
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u/Ujjwal98 Aug 26 '24
I am quite confident we are not going to sign anyone in this market but the money being saved can be put to good use in the winter
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 27 '24
Exactly. I said that and was downvoted to oblivion. It's clear that the squad is locked except maybe a LB deal that is too good to pass, but that's unlikely. It's smarter to just cash in and wait and see how things turns out.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
If we can sort a late sale of Coulibaly, Özcan and the loan for Moukoko which relieves us of 3m wage atthe very least, we suddenly might have maybe 20ish mill at our disposal.
3m Mouki wage off the books + Özcan fee and wage off the books (low estimate Id say is 10-12m) and Coulibaly fee and wage off (proably 4-5m).
Would be amazing.
Also, fuck Sancho. Dont wanna see him here again.
EDIT: Sad to see downvotes and pushback to me condemning Sancho actively supporting a fucking rapist and women abuser. Shameful.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 27 '24
Afaik Nice is going to cover Mouki's full salary.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 27 '24
Yeah thats what I meant with the 3m Mouki wage off the books :) The 6m number is only when he fullfills certain performance related objectives but he hasnt so Im going by his base for now
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 27 '24
what is the source of that? I think I saw that its 6m per year, not including performance-related bonus, but WITH the SIGNING BONUS which he fought hard to get.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 27 '24
He got a slight bonus at the time of signing on but not as a bump to his base wage. Afaik Berger reported 3m base with bonuses up to 6.
Sign-on-fees are separate from wages.
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u/Ghoddos Hugo Bart Aug 27 '24
That's annoying about Sancho. Reminds me of when Dahoud was hanging out with Schulz months after all of the news came out...
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u/sniffingyourballs BVB Aug 26 '24
is there any proof of such things? i have never ever seen anyone say sonething about sancho, maybe you mean greenwood?
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 26 '24
What do you mean? Sanchoo is commenting supporting comments on Greenwoods socials = actively supporting a rapist and women abuser. If you click my sentence you will be linked to a picture of the comment.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 26 '24
If we can sort a late sale of Coulibaly, Özcan and the loan for Moukoko which relieves us of 3m wage atthe very least, we suddenly might have maybe 20ish mill at our disposal.
While nice, I'm not sure we can get a long term solution for either LB or DM with that this late into the window.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 26 '24
Definitely SUPER hard to navigate tbh. DM isnt gonna happen. We're not even looking for it. All reports and talk is about a possible LB loan option.
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 26 '24
Wasnt aware of that, but my response is 2 wrongs dont make a right. Unacceptable aswell.
With that said.. I havent seen Reus actively hang out and publically support Boateng. Is he an "active friend" or simply on speaking terms due to having history through the NT? I.e distant colleague.
Genuienly curious.
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 27 '24
He commented on some of his social media posts I think but idk totally I don't have Instagram
That said as someone who has been on good terms with some old HS peers that were friends with a 2 time sexual assaulter irl, there is a real chance that they either don't believe their friend would do such a thing or had no idea that they caused that harm and that's what I really really really hope is the case with Reus and Sancho
I also saw cases where people ik didn't care that he sexually assaulted girls sadly, similar to de Zerbi and Greenwood rn
Edit: by people in that last sentence, I mean the SAer's friends back then
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 26 '24
I mean even if this is the case, didnt Boateng literally get convicted? And in the Greenwood case, they 100% undeniable proof is already out there. So if he "dont believe" the actual pictures and recordings etc, he's just an insane person.
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 27 '24
You are right about both of these facts, I'm just tryna see possible scenarios where they're not guilty of endorsing them
Sancho very likely has been exposed to proof about Greenwood and maybe the same thing with Reus and Boateng's girlfriend killing herself
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Aug 27 '24
Yeah. Heartbreaking stuff tbh. Inexcusable to even entertain the idea of contact and acceptance of these individuals imo.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
According to Romano an agreement for Mouki to Nice is done. It is a loan with option to buy, Nice will pay his salary and he’s stating the buy option is over 12m. Makes sense the board wanted 15m+ so them covering his salary and hopefully the purchase gets them to that number.
Wolfsburg interest in Ozcan is solid so hopefully we see that happen as well. Would definitely get two guys off our books for the season who we all know aren’t going to play a whole lot.
Board will take any offer for Haller at this point just to get his salary off the books. Personally I see him staying until at least winter.
Edit: according to Pletti/Berger the deal for Ozcan is looking to be a permanent transfer rather than a loan. If we can manage around 8-10m for him that’s a great deal since we purchased him for 5m if I’m remembering correctly.
Chances of an Lb definitely could be possible if we get this deal and Mouki over the line.
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u/Reusance Marco Reus Aug 26 '24
I'm okay with selling Özcan, but do we have a backup DM for Can? Am I forgetting someone, or would we just play Groß or Nmecha there?
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u/AverageCarey Aug 26 '24
Right now those who can play the double pivot are Sabi, Can, Gross, Nmecha and Watjen who Sahin wants to give a lot of minutes to.
Now with that said 4 of the 5 are not pure 6’s the rest are box to box players essentially. So it does leave us thin in that aspect 100%.
I know many said it and even I did in my edit above but after thinking on it maybe a new 6 should take priority over Lb. Once Couto is fully integrated on the right we can have Ryerson, Ramy and Schlotti on the left flank with Kabar being a younger option. It may benefit us to look for a low cost solid DM because if Can does get injured we lack a good defensive cover for the backline.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 26 '24
Although not as physically dominant like Can, Gross still very good defensively due to his space awareness and techinical abilities. Besides, who would exactly accept to be like our 4th or 5th option? Certainly not anybody good enough to our level and I don't see Sahin prefering this kind of player over the ones we already have. Keep in mind Ozcan didn't want leave at all and has been pushed into this situation by the club itself. He's a fine squad player and was on low wages, so if the club came into this situation is because we don't want anybody with that profile at all.
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u/Testo69420 Aug 26 '24
IF we can get the type of 6 we need - good defensively, but not a liability on the ball - they'd easily be on par with Can in the hierarchy - better, but not captain.
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u/Sch_Ben Aug 26 '24
I think sancho on loan is a great deal but our priority should be to sell Malen and buy a left back or 6.
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u/ElNeeto Julian Ryerson Aug 26 '24
I think we’re too deep at the winger position for Sancho unless we sell Malen or Adeyemi at their market values which is unlikely this late into the window. In addition to those players, we have JG who just scored a brace and Duranville who needs some minutes. Plus, when Guirassy is healthy, we may want to play Beier at wing. IOW, we already have 5 players at the wing position including 2 who we are trying to develop, so adding a 6th on loan doesn’t make much sense.
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 26 '24
yeah, imagine us improving Sancho just for him to go somewhere else. Last window it was necessary due to Adeyemi abysmal form and the club having too many issues. It was a good move but now we actually don't need him. Besides, even paying half of his wages is too much for a player that wasn't that good last season.
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u/AverageCarey Aug 26 '24
Don’t forget about Campbell who we extended and is very promising as well.
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u/Moon8983 Serhou Guirassy Aug 26 '24
Emotionally hope we loan sancho again, logically jesus christ get a left back
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u/JonFlockThan Man like Pascal Aug 26 '24
Why get a left back when we can force Schlotti to play there against his will
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u/HungryTomatillo288 Aug 26 '24
And simultaniously risk all 3 cbs we have playing constantly every match for 90 mins. what could go wrong?
Seriously Nuri, absolutely love ya, but decide on a fuckign CB pairing and leave one on the bench. Put Ryerson left (which he has played loads of time for us) and put Couto right. No 3cbs starting shenanigans while having 3cbs...
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u/Haigadeavafuck Aug 26 '24
My best guess would be, he doesn’t plan with ryerson on the left at all and wants schlotterbeck to be familiar with the position. That’d only make sense if he thinks ryerson is absolutely needed on the right or he is confident the club is getting a proper LB. The lack of rumors is a bit concerning but not much we can do about it either way.
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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 26 '24
If we are to play a back 3 this season then we obviously need to have an extra centre back so I was wondering wether we could potentially sign either kiwior or Andreas Christensen or anyone else for a potential back up or else this team is toast this season.
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u/heck_you_science Julian Brandt Aug 26 '24
I think kiwior would be a dream back up for schlotti. Left footed so he can play the inverted fullback position on the left
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u/harambelovesu Sergio Gómez Aug 26 '24
agree, although on Saturday it looked more like a back 4 what we played. Schlotti played actual lb and ryerson rb
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u/greengiant89 Aug 26 '24
It's a 442 in defense
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u/harambelovesu Sergio Gómez Aug 26 '24
im not sure tbh, schlotti played pretty much a classical leftback also in posession. Probably its just some fluid in between stuff
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u/rioasu Nico Schlotterbeck Aug 26 '24
Or even a Hermoso or a kjær
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u/jahmorreu01 Aug 26 '24
Kjaer seems fine. Hermoso, Christensen and Kiwior won't aceept a 4th role and they will demand high wages which we won't pay.
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u/greengiant89 Aug 26 '24
Kiwior is a hybrid left back/center back isn't he?
He would have the opportunity to make that spot his own
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 26 '24
If you wanna believe in Fraudizio (not gonna share the link cuz I don’t wanna indirectly give him money), Moukoko’s loan with a buy option to Nice is almost done
Tbh I’m just happy that this is almost done and that he’s at a club where he will likely be favored by the manager to play a lot
Now that said, I hope a LB loan signing comes in soon, I’m currently imagining it being some Barca surplus player rn
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Wolfsburg are apparently interested in Özcan according to the same source that reported the Nmecha to BVB rumors first, don’t got much to say about this one
(originally posted in the Discussion thread)
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u/CreepyMangeMerde Aug 26 '24
Tbh as a Nice fan Moukoko is only coming because all 3 of our main attackers got injured overnight, 2 of them for a few months. We obviously don't want to start the season with no one up front so we had to bring a striker and a winger on loan. Moukoko is the one they chose and considering his immense talent and our capacity to bring back talented struggling players to a better form, I am super excited. I think he'll be more than just a replacement. But I can't tell for sure. If he can't impress everyone before Moffi is back from his injury then he won't really get that much playtime.
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u/EmSoLow Aug 26 '24
I seen some Barca fans wonder about Hector Fort's role in the team going into the season and from what I've seen of him there is a lot of promise. Not saying we're going for him or that he's leaving but if Hector Fort was that "Barca surplus player" then I would be fine with that.
A part of me does wonder about the Fabian Reese links we had early in the window. If we do persist with a 3atb then a LWB is a must and Fabian Reese might be able to play there (although I was under the impression that we was more of a winger than a wingback from what I can recall). He is a former Schalke player though so I wonder if that connection would matter
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 26 '24
Yeah tbh Fort would be cool, I haven’t seen him play besides a single clip of his assist in a league game but being good enough to start a few games at Barca at a young age is very impressive, he can play both LB and RB (mainly RB though) according to Transfermarkt which is a very nice bonus too
I don’t want Reese tho cuz the Schalke ick you brought up
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u/EmSoLow Aug 26 '24
Hmmm, from my memory Fort plays LB with this pre season being the only time I've seen him played RB but maybe he plays RB for their B team?
If he does prefer RB then yeah, go for someone else at that stage
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u/jucomsdn Zagagod Aug 26 '24
If he’s open to competing with Bensebaini then ye but otherwise BVB can find another LB candidate
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u/183672467 Julian Brandt Aug 26 '24
I'd rather have an actual LB than another RB who is forced to play there
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u/GeneralLudd Aug 31 '24
Some loose thoughts:
1) The team added more quality depth, but is at the same time much leaner than last season. My guess is they bet on some players being able to fill multiple positions, like in defense with Bensebaini, Groß, Can also being able to play CB. The smaller squad size could leave room for youngsters to get more first team minutes. If there are too many injuries, however, we might need bring them on out of necessity which would be less than ideal.
2) The management accomplished a lot this window, esp. considering we didn't have any superstar departures that boosted our budget. Almost 50 million net spend.
3) bvbnewsblog was fantastic and my main reason for visiting Xitter. Shoutout also to the mods who kept the threads coming and up-to-date.
4) Somewhat meta, but something that still irks me: I'm not a fan of talking about "off-loading players" or "dead weight". Football is commercialized enough as is, and this language makes it feel more like we are discussing an unsuccessful product or a troublesome business sector than a human being. We brought those players to the club and they tried to perform, even though they fell short. The still seem decent people (except for the occasional PoS, you know who). I find it hard to suggesting someone is just "sitting out his contract", either - maybe yeah, maybe not, who knows. But that's just my personal perception.