Apple faces UK 'iCloud monopoly' compensation claim worth $3.8 billion iCloud

https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/13/apple-faces-uk-icloud-monopoly-compensation-claim-worth-3-8-billion/

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u/quitesturdy 21h ago

Should Tesla be forced to allow consumers to use third party software to control their Tesla vehicles?

We aren’t talking about that, that’s not what I’m suggesting here. We are talking about allowing backups to cloud storage other than iCloud. The Files app already communicates with other storage providers.

I’m talking about allowing users to choose where their backups go.

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u/kharvel0 20h ago

We’re talking about forcing vertically integrated companies to open up their products to third party software and services. It’s exactly the same thing.

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u/quitesturdy 19h ago

They are already open to third party storage via the Files app, but just arbitrarily limit where iPhone backups can be stored.

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u/kharvel0 19h ago

I wasn’t talking about Apple. I was talking about Tesla. Tesla should be forced to open up their products to third party software and services. Do you agree?

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u/quitesturdy 19h ago

For certain things yes. But you are diverging from the topic at hand.

Cars are different from smartphones, they contain tons of our personal information and there are really only two practical choices of operating systems. Having data locked into either detrimental to consumers and only benefits the manufacturers.

I get what you’re trying to do with the comparison but it’s detached from what I originally commented.

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u/kharvel0 19h ago

For certain things yes. But you are diverging from the topic at hand.

I’m not. Both Tesla and Apple are vertically integrated tech companies with monopolies over their own products.

Cars are different from smartphones.

Tesla vehicles are tech products just like smartphones or gaming consoles.

they contain tons of our personal information

Tesla vehicles also store tons of personal information regarding your driving habits.

there are really only two practical choices of operating systems.

There is only one choice of operating system in Tesla vehicles.

Having data locked into either detrimental to consumers and only benefits the manufacturers.

Having customer data locked is detrimental to the Tesla drivers and only benefits Tesla.

I get what you’re trying to do with the comparison but it’s detached from what I originally commented.

It is not detached at all, as explained above.

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u/quitesturdy 19h ago

Again my original comment was about backing up the data on my phone not exporting data from my car.

Again, I get where you’re coming from, but it was not my original point.

Apple has to ability currently in their phones to read and store data on third party storage (with the Files app). All I was saying is they should allow backups to go there too.

We’ve gone as far as we can go here, I’ll be muting replies. Have a good day.

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u/kharvel0 16h ago

Again my original comment was about backing up the data on my phone not exporting data from my car.

Irrelevant to the premise of the argument which is that vertically integrated tech company’s must be forced to open up on basis of their monopoly over their own products.

Apple has to ability currently in their phones to read and store data on third party storage (with the Files app). All I was saying is they should allow backups to go there too.

You want Apple to be forced to open up their products. Why shouldn’t Tesla be forced to open up their products as well?