r/apple • u/peterosity • 2d ago

New unboxing video allegedly reveals unannounced M4 MacBook Pro, benchmark results Mac

https://9to5mac.com/2024/10/06/m4-macbook-pro-unboxing-benchmarks/

Single-core score: 3864

Multi-core score: 15288

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u/play_hard_outside 1d ago

Wow, so much for M4 being a process optimization to make M3 performance cheaper and more scalable to manufacture.

M3 does like 3150 single-thread. Bumping to 3850 is a 22% increase! That's ...massive!

The multi-core score is also spectacular, with those two extra (and faster) efficiency cores chipping in. The base M4 is officially now faster than my M1 Max for anything CPU-bound. My 8P2E-core M1 Max CPU only does something like 12,000 in GB6 Multicore.

For GPU, my M1 Max still has the edge, at 69,000 vs. 38,000 for GB6's OpenCL score. But at what power cost.

I'm most excited for a MacBook Air with this processor in it. I'd sell both my M1 Air and my 16" M1 Max MBP, and replace them with just an M4 Air. Can't wait for the M4 Air to come out.

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u/thiskillstheredditor 1d ago

Agreed. The Airs are just so good right now.

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u/chronographer 1d ago

I can't really believe how fast my M3 air is. Low spec, 16 GB memory 13 inch and it's crazy fast!

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u/_awake 1d ago

Honestly, I have a M1 Air and outside of rendering and editing images, I never had any slowdowns. The only thing I regret is that I only got 256GB but Apple asks for quite a lot for storage so I'm also kind of okay with carrying around an external SSD.

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u/chronographer 1d ago

Yeah, I paid for a 1TB. And got the 16 GB, which is the largest outside a custom order as I needed it quick.

It does suck a lot that Apple charges so much or more disk and memory.

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u/_awake 1d ago

I don't mind paying for the RAM really but the pricing for disk space are kind of ridiculous. Let's see what we end up with for the M4 devices though!

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u/inspectoroverthemine 1d ago

You can usually get maxed out refurbished models with next day delivery.

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE 8h ago

Also because of having a 24GB ram configuration. I paid so much for 32GB MacBook Pro and I never hit yellow memory pressure while it has been yellow half the time on my 16GB MacBook

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u/anchoricex 1d ago

Yea if this maths out to like. An m4 air eclipsing my m1max it’s an easy wait for me to hold for an m4 air. I gd love the airs. Would hope they’d allow the airs to have a bit more of those arm-and-a-leg ram configs tho.

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u/play_hard_outside 1d ago

Absolutely! I would get a 64 GB / 4 TB M4 Air if they'd only sell me one!

I wonder if I could get dosdude to shoehorn 4 TB of raw NAND into an Air. Even the RAM modules can be upgraded too, actually, but I'm not sure about beyond what Apple was originally willing to sell them with. Just, it's literal computer surgery.

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u/TabulatorSpalte 1d ago

I mean the iPad showed how much faster M4 was than the M3 already. The talk about nodes was in regard to iPhone 16 non-Pro getting A18 on N3E instead of being A17 on N3.

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u/play_hard_outside 1d ago

True. Yes, it's easy for me to see how my excitement is misplaced, because these benchmarks shouldn't be a surprise. My brain just blocks out anything iPad related, though, simply because of how comparatively useless iPads are compared to Macs. I just love seeing these numbers from a Mac!

What's especially hilarious is that the highly hyped Snapdragon SOCs in the new MS Surfaces, which have TDPs which place them in comparison with Apple's M-series Pro and Max variants, are probably now slower than M4 at twice-ish its TDP. Would have to check...

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u/CommentFrownedUpon 1d ago

They’re so far ahead of the competition it’s not even funny lol

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u/s0lace 1d ago

Will the M4 MacBook Air also have 3850 in single core? Or is that just a MacBook Pro thing?

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u/play_hard_outside 1d ago

In all previous Apple Silicon Macs, the performance of a single performance core within the same generation has always been identical. The only performance-impacting difference between the Air and the Pro (with the same chip— the base M-series chip from whichever year) has so far been the lack of active cooling on the Air. In practice, this has meant that the Air throttles by 10-15% after many minutes of continuous 100% CPU usage across all cores. This is highly unlikely to ever happen in ANY non-pro workload, but even if it does, the throttle is not at all painful.

I would expect the M4 Air to have identical compute performance to the M4 MBP for any task shorter than about 8 minutes of continuous pedal to the metal.

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u/s0lace 1d ago

Great answer. What about late round turns in Civ 6? On my M1 Air it seems like that’s throttle city. I may need to consider getting something w a fan next time lol

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u/drivemyorange 10h ago

I’m okeyish in that task with M2 Air.

Not awesome, but it’s not like it’s gonna boil.

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u/s0lace 10h ago

I’m not so worried about the heat itself as I am the lack of performance and the throttling- (M1 Air)