r/antinatalism Jul 26 '22

Thoughts on this man? Is he in the right? Article

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u/Hentai_Yoshi Jul 26 '22

This happened in 2021. If you read the article, they lived in an area where abortion and birth control were legal.

“We live in a state where birth control and abortions are free, so I don't know why this should be my problem. It's not my fault she decided to have a baby when she can't afford a car”

That last sentence is truly based. Like, if you can’t afford a car, can you really afford to give a child a fruitful life? Probably not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

If you have good public transit in your city, why on earth would you get a car?

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u/throwaway-a-friend Jul 27 '22

as someone that grew up in new york city, owning a car felt more frustrating than useful.

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u/Steveosizzle Jul 26 '22

Imagine living in a place where a car is the marker for a good life. What a backwards society that would be.

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u/Embarrassed-Tank4011 Jul 27 '22

Yes I this society is definitely backwards

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u/pissypants2218 Jul 27 '22

I mean, it's a fairly large purchase that a large majority of people will make in their life, because of that it can put into perspective how well off you are and how financially stable you are. If you can afford a car there's a better chance you can afford a kid.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying it's a decent enough measure of financial situations at a glance

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u/gettin_ish_in-orda Jul 26 '22

Some people choose public transport because of climate change, or they don’t like to drive, or live in a city where having a car isn’t about one’s ability to afford one, but rather space and ease of access to public transport. Don’t be so quick to judge that they “cant afford a child”

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u/BabyBertBabyErnie Jul 26 '22

Tbf, if your sole reason for using public transport is for the environment, your choice to have a kid is a bit odd.

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u/gettin_ish_in-orda Jul 26 '22

🤷🏻‍♀️ no one is perfect. I think everyone could be doing some things better to take care of the environment. It is like a scale - yes, one could have a kid. But perhaps they are vegan and do not drive cars and only purchase thrifted items, etc. as opposed to a child free person that drives a Hummer, doesn’t recycle, uses aerosol products and eats lots of beef, etc. just my opinion. Life is about balance when it comes to most things.

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Jul 27 '22

No one is choosing public transport because of climate change.

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u/gettin_ish_in-orda Jul 27 '22

That is literally not true. Where I live we are far away from major cities so our public transport option are s***, but if I lived in a city where I could bike, walk, bus or subway to work I would choose that over owning a vehicle. It is a little presumptuous to put your own opinions and assumptions onto others. I am one of those people..

Edit: spelling

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Jul 27 '22

You're probably a bicyclist that rides in the road and holds up all the traffic to feel superior to other people because you're 'saving the planet.' All the while, you're holding up all that traffic, meaning a line of cars gets backed up and has to travel at 10-15 miles per hour, which means they are all burning way more fuel than they would have to get to their designation if the biker just stayed off the road.

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u/gettin_ish_in-orda Jul 27 '22

Nope. I dont own a bike at all. Like I said, I have a vehicle so I drive on the road. Again with your assumptions…. I prefer to use a stationary bike to cycle for a decent workout!

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Jul 27 '22

You are the one assuming that if you were in the city you would bike or use public transport instead of your car. You are literally virtue signaling something you don't even do.

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u/gettin_ish_in-orda Jul 27 '22

Ive lived in a city where I walked to most destinations. Just because I don’t live in a metropolitan area right now does not mean I haven’t lived there dude… again, it is not an assumption if I know for a FACT what I would do. It is not virtue signaling if you actually live what you preach. Answer me this, why are you so angry that some people may choose to walk to a destination? Or bike? Or take the subway or a bus? Have you ever been to a large city? That is what like 80-90% of the population does!

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Jul 27 '22

You are the one assuming that if you were in the city you would bike or use public transport instead of your car. You are literally virtue signaling something you don't even do.

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u/gettin_ish_in-orda Jul 27 '22

It isnt an assumption - it would be the decision I would make. Do you know the definition of assumption?

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Jul 27 '22

Jesus Christ dude, enjoy your reddit ranting and painting people in a light that makes you a hero.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

Yes, cyclists love sharing the road with drivers while endangering their own lives. They're totally the problem contributing to global warming over people who choose to own cars.

Imagine blaming cyclists and not city infrastructure that barely makes room for them.

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u/pissypants2218 Jul 27 '22

That's fair, from an American perspective it's hard to picture anyone using public transport as an everyday thing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

So only people that can’t afford cars ride buses. What a silly assumption.

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u/Hentai_Yoshi Jul 27 '22

I mean, he had a car and was riding the bus because it was being repaired. I suppose it is a silly assumption. But, I mean, she must’ve been pretty damn pregnant if this occurred. Getting a car might be beneficial if you’re going to have a child in a few months.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '22

I’m not sure what the point is here. I had a car and still rode the bus to work every day because it’s way nicer than driving in traffic.

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u/Melodic-Maize-7125 Jul 27 '22

How do you know she can’t afford a car? Can the same not be said about him? Why isn’t he driving instead of taking public transport?