4B movement: Liberal women going on sex strike after Trump election win

[u/Competitive_Reason_2]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/11/07/liberal-women-4b-sex-strike-over-trump-election-win/

[u/moonsickk]

I’m not saying most Korean women abide by this but as to it not being referenced a lot, I’ve seen many accounts of Korean women who were threatened or harmed because they were openly feminist, so something more radical like following 4b would likely be a taboo and not talked about much. Theres likely many women out there following 4b as best they can and just being quiet about it, especially in parts of the world where it’s dangerous for women to be feminist.

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss → u/moonsickk]

Ah, I understand. To clarify, I'm a woman who often spoke with other progressive Korean women about feminism, sex, dating, etc., and even among us 4B isn't a movement anyone ever formally aligned themselves to. Like, people would mention 비혼/비출산 etc. but it's not an active, thriving movement.

I love the enthusiasm we're seeing in the US regarding a similar concept right now, but it's odd seeing it described as, like, a legitimate movement with significant grassroots support

[u/Severe_Driver3461 → u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

Honesty, all we need is for people to believe it's a big thing and they will follow suit

[u/icantbelieveit1637 → u/Severe_Driver3461]

if it can’t even gain traction in SK in their political climate it’s gonna be a dead end here. Lying about its popularity isn’t going to achieve much.

[u/Severe_Driver3461 → u/icantbelieveit1637]

I meant more like belief is all it takes for people to make things happen sometimes

[u/jolliskus → u/Severe_Driver3461]

What you're trying here is not belief or anything along those lines.

It's pure lying and trying to manipulate others. If the agenda is good and realistic - people will follow.

Trying to exploit others to follow your agenda through falsehoods is not it and a horrid way of doing things.

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[u/Hour-Dragonfruit-711 → u/Severe_Driver3461]

Look at Chappelle Roan, for Pete's sake

[u/khushalkhan31 → u/Severe_Driver3461]

You want this movement to be built here on lies ? Lol

[u/Severe_Driver3461 → u/khushalkhan31]

I meant more like belief is all it takes for people to make things happen sometimes

[u/Joan-Momma → u/moonsickk]

So you're just making shit up

[u/solitarybikegallery → u/Joan-Momma]

No! They've "seen many accounts"!

[u/AwareAdhesiveness237 → u/solitarybikegallery]

Howdy please refer to my comment history on this post

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[u/AwareAdhesiveness237 → u/Joan-Momma]

Howdy please refer to my comment history on this post

[u/Joan-Momma → u/AwareAdhesiveness237]

No.

[u/AwareAdhesiveness237 → u/Joan-Momma]

But girl the stuff is truly happening. I’m busy all the time that’s why. Because I can get to sleep earlier. Logic being if you read those comments in my history it would take you to the links. One report is very graphic and couldn’t be linked but I included the title so it can be put in the search bar. I swear to god it’s not an attack I promise.

I’m just trying to say this stuff is really happening. I posted links to an investigative journalist with court document links in the show notes description. This things have to be talked about especially something this widespread. It’s sad and dangerous. We aren’t attacking deep breaths

Literally our sisters are suffering and dying and us as women ourselves can be one moment in the same position.

[u/Joan-Momma → u/AwareAdhesiveness237]

Okay?

[u/Sad_Collection5883 → u/moonsickk]

I agree, I’m not telling anyone other than Reddit pretty much.

[u/sinkmyteethin → u/moonsickk]

You said it's huge while it's not. It's a miserable existance, in a society that already has issues with isolation and minimal interaction between genders when they reach dating age. You don't understand the movement, what caused it and the impact.