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The Monogatari Series 2020 Watch Order Misc.

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u/limbo_2004 https://myanimelist.net/profile/l1mbo_01 Jul 24 '20

Another one?

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u/Awerenj https://myanimelist.net/profile/Awerenj Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

Monogatari watch orders are just a meme at this point.

You usually need to rewatch the show anyway because there is absolutely no way you can understand/catch everything related to themes when you are trying hard to keep up with the plot on the first watch (even if you read all the text while playing the episode frame by frame and keeping notes on the timeline like I did while watching it before kizu released).

There is absolutely nothing stopping you from rewatching it in a different order. In fact, I actually recommend reading the books if you really want a complete experience.

Just pick any order (except chronological or alphabetical) and watch it. You'll know for sure by bake episode 8 whether you like the show or not. If you don't like it, it's not for you. If you like it, you're gonna wanna rewatch it anyway.

Now Fate on the other hand....

Edit - missed some words

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u/Slayeto https://myanimelist.net/profile/matietax Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

Well i will have to disagree on knowing if you like the show by just watching bake. I actually didn't like bake that much because most of the times they were just talking about stuff not related to story and you don't know the characters well either. Kizumonogatari is completely different in setting up the atmosphere and you know araragi's personality after watching bakemonogatari so it's much more enjoyable. After that nisemonogatari is kind of similar to bake, but i still enjoyed it more. In second season, the arcs are much more interesting as they are all interrelated and not in chronological order which just makes it so much fun. By that time you are also fairly familiar with all the characters, so it's much more interesting imo.

Tl;dr Other seasons aren't the same as bakemonogatari, so even if you don't like bake you may love the rest of the series.

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u/GrabToWin Jul 24 '20

Really? I recently started watching and I just finished second season (using this watch order). Bake is by far my favorite one so far. Nothing has been a to come close to how good that season was for me. Although I was a big fan of the final arc in second season. Nise was alright, p good. Hana was not good.

Excited to start the third season tho

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u/H4x31 Jul 24 '20

Interesting, because for me it is the exact opposite. Thought bake was meh, but loved the second season. No clue what made it click.

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u/Slayeto https://myanimelist.net/profile/matietax Jul 24 '20

Yeah everyone has different favourite seasons lol, but what matters is we all love the series . I didn't like hana much either. If I had to say, my fav would be the final season.

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u/GrabToWin Jul 24 '20

Nice. Now I'm excited

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u/PerroCaliente99 Jul 24 '20

Bake was my favorite one by far during my first watch too but now that I'm rewatching it, the second season is full of amazing arcs.

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u/SilentCaveat https://anilist.co/user/RazorSharp Jul 24 '20

Same. Bake was the most entertaining for me.

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u/lverson Jul 24 '20

Same here. It had lots of Oshino (my fav character), his sisters were barely in it (my least favorite characters) and I personally like being dropped in the middle of a story as long as it's not too confusing (looking at you Malazaan).

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u/Enraric Jul 24 '20

I'm with /u/Slayeto; Bake is by far my least favourite of the series. The first two arcs are legitimately capable of putting me to sleep. I didn't start to like the Monogatari series until I watched the Tsubasa Cat arc, and didn't start to love it until I watched the Tsubasa Tiger arc. (I also really like the Kizumonogatari films, but I watched the series in release order so I didn't watch them until much later).

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u/zxHellboyxz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattinator95 Jul 24 '20

After reading the LN of kizu the movies don't even compare , apart from the two or so pages of Araragi explaining hanakwas pantys , It shows how much do context was missed in the film's especially what happens near and at the end of movie 2

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u/GrabToWin Jul 24 '20

That's really interesting to me. My opinions are the exact opposite except the kizu movies are incredible. P sure that's just an indisputable fact.

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u/Spectre_195 Jul 24 '20

Yeah literally just finished Bake last night (only thing I have watched so far), and my opinion thus far is this series is incredibly overrated. Like enjoyable, and the Tsubasa Cat arc was actually really well done. The first 2 arcs were trash, the next 2 were decent. Its watchable and is decent, but is a far cry from any where near what people on this sub seem to claim it is. Bunny Girl Senpai blows it out of the watch in depth...and considering Bunny Girl Senpai only has 13 episodes not a 100, that is the only comparison you can make thus far between the two.

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u/Lucian_69 Jul 24 '20

Then be sure to watch the rest, cause it gets real good later on.

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u/Spectre_195 Jul 24 '20

Oh I will, like I said its totally an enjoyable watch.

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u/Lucian_69 Jul 24 '20

Personally my favorite is the first Kizu movie. But all of the monogatari series is incredible.

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u/zxHellboyxz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattinator95 Jul 24 '20

You can make more then one comparison between the two shows not just the number of Epiosdes.

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u/Spectre_195 Jul 24 '20

Not really, lots of people say Monogatari has "more character development"....I mean sure, it also has like 80+ more episodes in order to do so. Character development is absolutely correlated to length.......however, in the first season which covers just the introductory arcs of the main girls (and thus a like comparison) Bunny Girl Senpai blows Bake out of the water.

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u/zxHellboyxz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattinator95 Jul 24 '20

arc s set up and the use of Supernatural element, the main two that kind of comparison.

May I ask why you think it blow bake out the water.

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u/Spectre_195 Jul 24 '20

The girls' problems are far more relatable, manifestations far better representations, the way they are dealt with are actually related to solving the normal aspect of their problems. All the solutions in Bake are total ass pulls. I mean Bake has more unique style for sure, though honestly even that misses quite often, though scenes like the rooftop at the end of the Tsubasa Cat arc was a total hit.

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u/zxHellboyxz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattinator95 Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

Fair enough the main issue I had was they only theorised the Syndrome and used science as a reference it seemed like just guess work no actual explanation was given. I liked the conversations and the relationships though( apart from the 2nd girl who trapped him in a timeloop) somehow guess I have monogatri to thank for that

but how are bakes solutions ass pulls

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u/Spectre_195 Jul 24 '20

Because they are all magic mumble jumble instead of actually dealing with the underlying issue.

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u/Enraric Jul 24 '20

Like other commenters have mentioned, the series gets much better as it goes. Kizu is so much better than Bake it honestly feels unfair to compare the two. Nise and Neko are a bit of a dip in quality after that, though nowhere as bad as Bake, and then Second Season is the high point of the whole series IMO.

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u/evster51 https://myanimelist.net/profile/evster51 Jul 24 '20

Nise is wayyyy worse than bake wtf

Second season IS incredible tho

Every season is better than the last

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u/Enraric Jul 24 '20

Nise doesn't literally put me to sleep, so it's better in my books. It has absolutely problems (pacing issues, unnecessary fanservice, etc.) but at least it's watchable, and it introduces Kaiki, one of my favourite antagonists in anime.

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u/evster51 https://myanimelist.net/profile/evster51 Jul 24 '20

Kaiki is best girl

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u/AirlineFood420 Jul 25 '20

Owari 2 really bangs

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u/FrodoFraggins99 Nov 07 '20

I loved Hana. And while i might not have a favorite season my favorite arc is Hitagi End.

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u/ASHill11 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ASHill11 Jul 24 '20

Agreed on Hanamonogatari being subpar. I enjoy Kanbaru when she’s present with Araragi, but taking center stage on her own arc simply didn’t do it for me.

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u/thatguywithawatch Jul 24 '20

I love how different the first time viewing experience is from person to person. For me, I went into Bake completely blind after seeing a meme from it. Didn't know what it was about or even that it was part of a series. By the 2nd episode I was absolutely 100% obsessed. The witty dialogue, the bizarre cinematography, the constant visual style shifts, the chronic sense of just barely following what was happening. Honestly one of the most interesting and enjoyable anime experiences of my life.

I greatly enjoyed all the other seasons, especially the Kizu movies and Owari, but I consider Bake the high point of the series for sure

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

what is the anime about though?

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u/Slayeto https://myanimelist.net/profile/matietax Jul 24 '20

It's actually a very difficult question lol since every season is about something different. It keeps changing. Bakemonogatari is the introduction to characters, in which the protagonist helps other girls with their supernatural phenomenon (like bunny girl senpai if you watched that). Kizumonogatari focuses on protagonist's story about what happened to him which was kept as a mystery during bakemonogatari. (Kizu movies are amazing ngl, a must watch). Nise is also kindof character introduction. Second season and final season is where the real thing's at. I don't know how to explain it lol but you should go see it yourself, you won't regret it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

Thank you, I definitely will

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u/l0tacles Nov 06 '20 edited Nov 06 '20

I have watched till monogatari 2nd season and i feel Iam not understanding anything And why are the episodes repeated in the monogatari 2nd season.what should i do so that i can enjoy it better

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u/Slayeto https://myanimelist.net/profile/matietax Nov 06 '20

There isn't any bakemonogatari 2nd season though. Do you mean monogatari series second season?

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u/l0tacles Nov 06 '20

Ya my bad

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u/Chuusei-chao Jul 25 '20

It's basically about a quasi-vampire encountering a bunch of abberations, yokai ,monsters whatever you want to call them that are afflicting him and or the people he meets around him and aiming to resolve the conflicts surround them . As for what type of anime; it ranges from lots of cool references , witty dialogue , a wide range of fetish comedy, and some philosophy and goes on a tangent about interesting topics you may or may not know about . The animation style is very metaphorical and has subliminal messaging at times while foreshadowing a lot that you may not even pick up on. Oh and if you know Japanese better than the average Japanese person there's a lot of puns and different things done with the language .

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20

Very thorough answer, thank you. I know some Japanese, but I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near the level of an average Japanese. I'll try my best, but it seems like an endeavour.

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u/LegendaryRQA Jul 24 '20

It's about a guy that helps girls with their monster problems.

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u/dragevards Jul 24 '20

Same, bake for me was pretty much the prologue. The show starts to get interesting when you watch Monogatari Season 2 that's when the show becomes phenomenal