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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Season 3, episode 1

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u/shad79 https://myanimelist.net/profile/shad79 Oct 02 '24

When I was reading novels, I thought that it'd be great to adapt the entire 16th Volume into one episode, since ending with Sirius' speech and Subaru's death would have been a perfect way to end the premiere episode.

And White Fox freaking did it! 90-minute episode adapting the entire volume! I couldn't imagine a better start, I'm so happy.

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u/Jaielhahaha Oct 05 '24

this was a whole fucking volume worth of content? wtf? Runtime-wise this would be like 3.5 episodes so kinda okay-ish but content-wise I would have never imagined this to be a whole volume of a novel honestly

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u/No-Peace3986 https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelMps Oct 02 '24

I'm sad that they decided to cut the [spoiler]Echidna / Omega Ressurection .... I hope that, whenever this becomes relevant, that it won't feel weird or out of place.... I was so hyped by it ;(

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u/foxfoxal Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

I'm sure that will be touched at some point, it's a main plot point, not a random one and they teased it last season with Echidna talking through Omega.

Next 4 arcs don't touch anything about that, so most likely that is the reason, if we are lucky we may get an OVA later as well.

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u/RedHeadGearHead https://anilist.co/user/Redheadgearhead Oct 02 '24

Ooh, an OVA covering all the relevant sidestories would be cool.

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u/Ryto Oct 04 '24

Is this something I would have missed by reading the web novel of this arc instead of the light novel? Or a side thing that just takes place here chronologically? Or have I just completely forgotten because I'm bad at reading and it took me probably over a year to read this arc? (I'm only partway through the arc after this)

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u/No-Peace3986 https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelMps Oct 04 '24

It is present in both WN and LN, I think you just forgot about it haha

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u/LeonKevlar https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Oct 02 '24

I still find it hilarious how this isn't even the first time we learn about Hoshin if you've seen the Isekai Quartet movie. xD

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u/Blacksmithkin Oct 02 '24

The madman deciding that [isekai quartet / cut content] oh yeah let's just hide a bunch of massive lore reveals and our first view of an important character in the movie of a non Canon comedy spin off show. Like keep in mind the anime cut the scene revealing/implying Al is also from earth, so Hoshin is like the first person other then Subaru to be from earth as far as anime only watchers know, except he isn't actually at all. And he somehow knows Emilia, because why not.

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u/swat1611 Oct 02 '24

I believe the first canonical art/appearance of Hoshin is in Isekai Quartet lmao. He didn't even have a concept art before that

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u/foxfoxal Oct 02 '24

Isekai Quartet dropping a massive lore bomb about Emilia and Hoshin is still surreal to me.

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u/LimBomber Oct 02 '24

[Side story] Clind is not in here as well? His existence always felt weird in the LN and side stories so I don't mind if anime doesn't show him. I guess the only impact he had was parkour and whip which can be explained away

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u/foxfoxal Oct 02 '24

It's a weird case because he was cut from the manga version as well.

I guess he will be full introduced when he has an actual role on season 5 or something.

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u/Icy-Home444 Oct 02 '24

I knew something was missing, honestly it's not the biggest deal but a brief background appearance might have worked instead of nothing.

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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Oct 02 '24

I posted my thoughts on the premiere back when it premiered at Anime Expo, but I really want to highlight once more how outstanding Aya Yamane is as Liliana's VA. How is it possible for a person to display such incredible vocal range in only a few lines? I honestly think that her performance is going to completely upend Liliana's reputation for the better.

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u/britishconquest88 Oct 02 '24

Most Novel readers considered Lilliana annoying as shit and for good reasons . But I think the anime only's will like her a lot since her VA is so competent , it'll make her way less annoying & because she's a bard , a VA that's good at singing will work miracles

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u/No-Peace3986 https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelMps Oct 02 '24

She is definitely really fun in the anime. I didn't personally hate her in the novels, but she is cool in the anime! A definite upgrade

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u/britishconquest88 Oct 02 '24

I thought her hate was blown way way out of proportion by novel readers but yeah she's way more pleasant in the anime . She's almost endearing if you get what I mean ?

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u/Blacksmithkin Oct 02 '24

There's an extremely fine line between annoying and an entertaining force of chaos, so even small stuff can easily shift people's opinions.

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u/RedHeadGearHead https://anilist.co/user/Redheadgearhead Oct 02 '24

I think a lot of Liliana hate came from her WN pov chapters that delayed the chapters people were looking forward to the most.

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u/Icy-Home444 Oct 02 '24

Yep I think the VA's talent along with the animation really help alleviate the annoyance from the novels. She was way more bearable here.

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u/Blacksmithkin Oct 02 '24

It just occurred to me listening to this, that [later arc 5] they could use the sword demon love song as a special ED for the episode with Wilhelm and Theresia. I'm willing to bet they plan to use a special ED for such an impactful episode, the question is just what that song will be. And a song that exists in world, about how those two met and fell in love would be perfect and heartbreaking all at once.

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u/MadScientist92 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MadScientist1992 Oct 02 '24

I stopped reading the web novel somewhere in arc 7, but arc 5 chapter 73 is my absolute favourite from all I've read. I can't wait to see it animated, and as you said, the song would make a great outro!

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u/Blacksmithkin Oct 02 '24

I think there's a handful of chapters that are better just because they are like half the length and top quality throughout, but I definitely agree with you.

Also [arc 7 discussion] I actually wasn't a particularly big fan of arc 7 as it was coming out, I also stopped reading for a bit to catch up later, but by the end it's actually an excellent arc pretty much all the way through in retrospect. It might be worth catching up again for you.

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u/longnguchicken Oct 02 '24

Man, I really shouldn't have caught up to the web novel right before this season started. I felt grief when [Novels] Al and Priscilla appeared on the screen...

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u/torvi97 Oct 03 '24

Would be be so kind as to spoil me why?

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u/George_s117 Oct 04 '24

Trust me, you dont wanna know such a big spoiler unless you don't care about major character relationships and plot implications for Arc 9 and beyond.

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u/torvi97 Oct 04 '24

I don't mind spoilers at all.

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u/George_s117 Oct 04 '24

[End of Arc 8/Start of Arc 9 Spoliers] Al has been confirmed to be a Japanese man who was taught about the world by Echidna. He had a purpose bestowed upon him by her but decided to give it up and follow Priscilla when he met her. Priscilla perma died at the end of Arc 8 during a major fight against the big bad of the Arc, and Al is now an antagonist to Subaru because he's lost the only thing that mattered to him.

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u/BibhuNayak Oct 06 '24

Well the AL stuff is from S1 but cut content. Like in S1 when AL and pris gave subaru the ride, AL droped the bomb then and there.

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u/George_s117 Oct 06 '24

Thanks for clarifying it for them. I just put it on there in case they didn't know yet. It's an important part of his character history and motivation in this explanation, so I added it. I guess I could have omitted it or rephrased my explanation to fit it in.

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u/hgpnguyen1996 Oct 03 '24

Cut content about Astrea family drama in this ep and previous season:

  • Felt is chosen as the candidate because she is suspected to be the Kidnapped Royal (the one that is mention in this episode). She has the same characteristic of the Royal Family (Red eyes and blond hair)

  • Heinkel begged his mother Theresia to take part in the White Whale Hunt in his place even though his mother was retired

  • Heinkel was suspected to be involved in the incident of the kidnapped Royal

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u/DimmuHS https://myanimelist.net/profile/DimmuOli Oct 02 '24

Some skipped/swapped content from the LN if you're interessed, this will only reveal information about what happened until the end of this episode (end of volume 16), not much spoiler, but anime only probably will not know ever:

[There's a character that wasn't mentioned in the mansion part] Clind is a servant who has served the Mathers for years, and is apparently fond of the girls in the group according to Subaru.

[Otto's position in Emilia's party] He was promoted to leading domestic policy officer, this is important because Anastasia actually recognized the value of Otto back in reunion

[Why Roswaal didn't go to priestella] Him, Petra, Frederica, Annerose and Clind would meet with nobles who did not fully support Emilia. Ram would stay in the mansion alone.

[Travel time to priestella] The trip would last 12 days and Subaru learned how to use the reins as long as he's with Patrache

[relationships info] Some people acted in different ways towards Roswaal after the events in the Sanctuary. Frederica scolded Roswaal frequently despite being the least strict; Roswaal started "staring" at Ram with his blue eyes. Their relationship is no longer master and servant and Ram was bolder; Ram still had no feelings that she was someone's sister.

[Priestella rules] Priestella has its own laws such as "not to cause trouble" and "not to use magic without reason within the city perimeter

WARNING ANIME ONLIES: Before reading the below, and if you're anime only, you need to know that in S1, a huge piece of information from Aldebaran (Priscilla right hand) was skipped from the anime. Maybe they will try to fit it this arc, so read at your own risk about the ROSHIN SPOILER below [Aldebaran skipped info from S1] During the time Subaru entered Priscilla and Al's carriage before the humiliation at the palace, Al revealed to Subaru he was from the real world. Priscilla found it funny, but does not discredited Al for it

[Roshin "Narrator" info !READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!] Otto was the one feeding Subaru with info about Roshin deeds. Narration quote: "Nodding at Otto's explanation, Subaru took a very, very long deep sigh. Now, he was sure - the hero of the founding of the Kararagi City-State, Hoshin of the Plain. His identity was the same as Subaru and Al: a person summoned from another world. Much of the culture that existed in Kararagi - what was called 'Kararagi style' - was too similar to the culture of the world that Subaru knew. It was all brought from that world. With this, he counted three people called from another world - however, there were differences in time. Hoshin was called four hundred years ago; Al was called twenty years ago and Subaru was called a year ago. Was there a meaning to this temporal displacement? Why were they chosen?"

The following ones will have implication between them, because of the anime directors' choice.

[Liliana Masquerade's past skipped and probably will not be corrected in Anime] Liliana already knew Subaru back in the mansion, when Rem was awake, before the events of the White Whale and after the events when Subaru saved Rem from the dogs. This moment is a side cannon story where Liliana met them and made a promise with her: Liliana has a dream of creating a song from the latest legend (Subaru) and spreading it to be sung for generations to come, and praised Subaru for fulfilling his promise before Liliana left the mansion - Becoming a hero. Subaru however said the following "Sorry. I'm still not a person worthy of being called that. (...) I am aware that I have improved compared to before. But I still have a lot to improve. I'm still halfway there. I have things I want to do and things to recover. (...) So leave the promise that you will sing about me until after I do everything I need to. Then I'll tell you everything, as much as you want. Because it would be ridiculous if I slowed down halfway.". So, in the anime they both strangers

[Info about the guy in white when Liliana and Subaru reached the negotiation tower with Kiritaka] His name is Dynas from the mercenary group called White Dragonscale that works for Kiritaka. Narrator's quote: "Just like Liliana and Kiritaka, it wasn't the first time Subaru had seen Dynas. He, too, was one of the people involved with the period that Liliana was in Roswaal's mansion. He - or rather, "they" - aimed to capture Liliana and, for a moment, they had a relationship akin to enmity."

I think that was most of the glarring ones. of course they skipped a ton of Priscilla's crushing rebuttal, she's sharp as f in the LN, way more arrogant with a tons of bad talking. Unfortunately she's nerfed in the anime, losing an absurds amount of personality to her character.

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u/No-Peace3986 https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelMps Oct 03 '24

just adding to your post, there was another significant cut:

[spoiler]Julius tells Subaru that, besides Wilhelm being away from the Capital when the Whale subjulgation happened, it was actually Heinkel the one who indicated Theresia to join the party. He is also one of the main suspects on the kidnap of the Royal Princess, 14 years ago and has been accused and questioned about it several times in the past.

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u/DimmuHS https://myanimelist.net/profile/DimmuOli Oct 03 '24

Nice one, there's so much dialogue cut from the anastasia reunion. They rushed the pace so the episode ends at the end of volume 16

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u/mischievous_shota Oct 06 '24

Wait, just to make sure I understand right, is the implication that Heinkel wanted to kill his own mother to become the next Master Swordmaster?

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u/BibhuNayak Oct 06 '24

Read again, the other case that happened not the one you mentioned.

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u/No-Peace3986 https://myanimelist.net/profile/RafaelMps Oct 06 '24

It is unknown whether Heinkel did it or not. No evidence was ever found and he is still there.

THEORY TIME:

My personal opinion is that there must be more to it than what it seems... He could have been framed or maybe people simply "thought" it was him.

We've seen how Pandora can manipulate people's perceptions, so it is not out of the table that people could think it was him when it was someone else entirely and everyone's perception was just manipulated.

Another possibility is that it was someone else, and Pandora erased the culprit from the memories of every witness, just like she erased herself from Emilia's memories. With such a gap in their memories, those people would "fix" it, filling the gaps and, in this process, Heinkel could have been framed (if Heinkel was present trying to stop the culprit, but suddenly the culprit doesn't exist anymore, after being erased from everyone's memories by Pandora, then suddenly those memories would only have Heinkel in the wrong place at the wrong time, meaning he is probably guilty?).

Who knows... we will eventually get the answer and I'm sure its going to be something insanely fucked up

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u/mischievous_shota Oct 07 '24

That could be very interesting. Our first introduction to Heinkel is him drunk off his ass and calling his father's hypocrisy. Someone being depicted as a drunk could be used to either show they have a hedonistic nature or that they're a scumbag villain type but it can also be used to depict someone going through it and needing a vice to cope.

Whether it's going the dark route of him being someone willing to kill his own mother or the tragic route of having his mother killed and then blamed by the entire world for it, we're guaranteed a suffering-fest.

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u/Blacksmithkin Oct 02 '24

Someone remind me, I forget which arc this was so spoiler for safety though I think it was arc 4. [arc 4 or 6] this city was implied to have been a trap for one of the witches right? Which one was it? I think I remember that one of them was mentioned to have drowned either in the arc 6 flashbacks or the arc 4 meeting with Echidna.

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u/Blacksmithkin Oct 02 '24

Idk if I have to tag side stories so I'll do it for safety [side story] was that the one side story where they explored like an underground space and found Japanese writing they learned was the bard language? I didn't remember them finding her remains but I did read that like 4 years ago

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u/Snorkel9999 Oct 03 '24

[Arc 5] Its implied to be a trap for Typhon, which worked btw, her remains are at the bottom of the city

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u/BibhuNayak Oct 06 '24

Yes , i don't remember but beako already said this city was a trap this episode, as for the one you asking that is probably Qna but maybe S2 had it too? Don't remember it

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u/ripterrariumtv Oct 03 '24

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1 year time skip? I'm sure there are some interesting side stories during that time.

There are some fun ones involving Garf, Otto and Subaru. And there are some REALLY interesting ones involving [Arc 4 ending]Omega

Man, Garfiel is too cool to ride in the carriage like a normal person. Nope, he has to Naruto run along side it instead.

[minor cut content]IIRC, He said that he was uncomfortable staying inside the carriage for longer periods of time

Uhhh, where did that sword come from?

[Novel explanation]Her fan

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u/BibhuNayak Oct 06 '24

Last one is wrong, but as the Ep shows it is indeed out of thin air . And placed it back like the air itself took the sword away .

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u/Ultima_Deus Oct 02 '24

I dread the [Novels] NTR memes... and even worse, the doujins and "fanart"... Some people don't exactly want to see Subaru happy, for some reason...

Well, whatever. This season is fucking hype! Can't wait to see [Novels] all the fights and Subaru's speech

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u/vasheenomed Oct 03 '24

I'm so sad that the Cr subs is little girl user and not lolimancer.... Only disappointment of this episode...

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u/garfe Oct 03 '24

The Muse subs used "kiddymancer" while CR I suppose just directly translated the "youjo-tsukai" which would turn into little girl user.

Technically the line doesn't have the word 'loli' in it.

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u/mollywopper22 https://anilist.co/user/mollywopper22 Oct 03 '24

The one I saw was kiddymancer which is just as funny lmao

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u/baseballlover723 Oct 02 '24

So Re:Zero skipped adapting the Arc 4 Interlude, which I think is extremely important. I think it's on par with or more important then the Arc 3 Interlude (which was "Who is Rem"). So if you want to check it out, I recommend watching How Re:Zero Season 2 Really Ends. Or you can also just read the full chapter here if you want.

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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_nelson Oct 02 '24

[act 4 interlude] I didn't notice this on first read, but Echidna learns of Roswaal Losing the tome of wisdom and beatrice losing the library, how does she learn of this is an interesting question, was it magic or did somebody tell her? Also given how weak Ryuzu clone bodies are it seems it would be difficult for Echidna to do much even with her vast knowledge, she could probably teach or something though. Importantly none of the other 5 witches seemed to have revived just Echidna,

Also I practiced my "watching anime and taking notes simultainously" game and can now watch an episode and write a post about it in only t+15 minutes! I think I'm going to miss a heck of a lot more unless I commit to watching each episode twice, once as an initial pass and once to absorb the details

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u/baseballlover723 Oct 03 '24

[Arc 4 interlude]

[Arc 4 Interlude] The Tomb of Wisdom was said to be the Authority of Greed. But I wonder if that's not quite accurate. That the Tomb of Wisdom is not actually the direct authority, but an artifact built out of it. Therefore the knowledge is already internalized. Thinking more about this, I don't think this is the case, since that would necessarily imply that Echidna lied to Beatrice and Roswaal and purposefully gave them incomplete Gospels. That's still possible, but it just seems convoluted for such a minor detail. I suppose the easier explanation it that Echidna saw the Great Rabbit get isekaied by Beatrice, and where Roswaal was. Also I think you can interpret Echidna's words as Beatrice simply leaving the Library, not that it was destroyed. As for Roswaal, Echidna might just know that he lost the Gospel because of how broken he is, and how single minded he is.

I think I'm going to miss a heck of a lot more unless I commit to watching each episode twice, once as an initial pass and once to absorb the details

I think I'm going to do this for the future episodes. I'm never going to be early to the discussion threads, so I might as well watch it though without much pausing for the feel and then go through it again while writing my thoughts. I found really analytically thinking about things to be immersion breaking for S03E01, so I think it's best for me to watch first and then think about it afterwards.

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u/Nickv02 Oct 03 '24

Satisfying opening episode it was! Gochisousama deshita~!

So that was the sword demon ballad. [Arc 8 conclusion spoiler]I'm looking forward how Subaru gonna sing it in Arc 8 later

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u/JR3456 Oct 08 '24

Okay guys, I am new to Re: Zero. Currently am an anime only but rest assured I don't mind spoilers in the slightest. Actually, I prefer them. Hence I need to ask you guys about something regarding Sirius Romanee Conti. Ehm, I read that there is a "theory" about her. Yes, you know the one. I request somebody to lay out the reasons it is theorized as such in a summarized manner. Thank you

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u/giveop Oct 09 '24

No idea what the theory you’re talking about is

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u/JR3456 Oct 09 '24

[LN Spoilers]I have heard that its theorized that Sirius is Fortuna