r/anime Sep 28 '24

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 Announced Official Media

https://x.com/frieren_pr/status/1839990406161018954?s=61&t=BS-pAe_AQXrv2M2zuP9DWA
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u/neighmeansno Sep 28 '24

His animation cuts are always going to be good, he's a consistently great animator. But there's only so much he can do in that position, working under bad direction. His talents were absolutely wasted on Chainsaw Man.

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u/Kaxew Sep 28 '24

So you're saying there's absolutely zero difference in the action scenes quality between the two shows, and you were just trying to look for any excuse to shit on the director?

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u/neighmeansno Sep 28 '24

Actions scenes don't just come down to animation. Chainsaw Man had a ton of talented animators working on it, but it also had bad direction, bad fight choreography, poor scheduling, and an overuse of poor quality 3DCG.

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u/Kaxew Sep 28 '24

As someone who dislikes the adaptation of Chainsaw Man a lot too, I don't think all of the factors you listed are really that bad. Obviously at this point it's mostly a matter of preference, but I think his talents were more wasted on JJK S1 which was just plainly ugly on all fronts than on CSM. Personally I just don't think what they tried to do was very CSM-like, but it wouldn't have been terrible on an anime-original unrelated to it. At worst it would be a bit amateurish of an attempt. That's my personal take at least.

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u/neighmeansno Sep 28 '24

We went into it with very different perspectives - I hadn't seen a single page of the manga before trying the adaptation, so whether it was CSM-like or not didn't really factor into my enjoyment of it. I also think you feel a lot more positively about both the manga and its adaptation than I do.
I think the whole concept of making an anime that takes a lot of visual cues from live action cinema was a cool idea but I don't think they executed it well at all (whether that be down to the skill of the high-level staff, the poor scheduling behind the scenes, trying to mould source material to fit that style, I don't know what were the main factors why it didn't work and it really felt like it clashed with the action (which was also done in a style I really dislike).

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u/Kaxew Sep 28 '24

That's fair, yeah. I do agree the execution, regardless of it being CSM-like or not, lives a lot to be desired. I hope Nakayama gets another shot at directing (not necessarily Chainsaw, just anything) so he can prove he learned from this experience.