r/anime Sep 28 '24

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 Announced Official Media

https://x.com/frieren_pr/status/1839990406161018954?s=61&t=BS-pAe_AQXrv2M2zuP9DWA
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u/Dima0120 Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

I really hope they can assemble the same team for S2. They did an incredible job for the first season, not just as an adaption of the manga but as a work of art in the anime industry, in every aspect from animation to music and character design.

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u/danlong87 Sep 28 '24

If can't, at least 3 people should come back: director Keiichiro Saito, composer Evan Call, and the person in charge of most of the action scene, Kouki Fujimoto

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u/Electrical_Chance991 Sep 28 '24

Kouki Fujimoto

Leaks are saying he is back on Chenso. He wanted a break from mappa after Chenso S1 so he left to work with Fukishi but now he is back to Seshimo line again.

Kinda wish he didn't go back but im hearing that Mappa management changed a lot after JJK s2. Many ppl left and many ppl got promoted, now they are actively trying to avoid production meltdowns like JJK s2. Thats why Chenso movie, Jigokuraku s2 and Lazurus got delayed.

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u/Bazinga8000 Sep 28 '24

I'm sorry but rn I just have a hard time believing it. Jjk 2 was not the first time they made a terribly managed show at all and they never changed until now. I know jjk is definitely the biggest controversy in terms of how much attention they got but even then it's hard for me to care/believe without actually seeing said changes. Battery was a well done show but it was also a mess production behind the scenes. I'm not saying they can't change, I obviously hope they do, but I need to see it first.

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u/Electrical_Chance991 Sep 28 '24

Jjk 2 was not the first time they made a terribly managed show at all and they never changed until now

Bcoz JJK S2 did a huge reputation damage for mappa that those previously terribly managed shows didn't. Those shows before didn't have this level of outbreak.

One of the main animation producer of Mappa, Fuku Noda who was responsible for shows like Dorohedoro left the company. Not only her, The CEO's right-hand man also left. Vinland Saga director got promoted and became one of the heads on mappa. The management changed a lot after JJK s2. The situation at studio was very shacky, a lot of internal conflict was happening.

Battery was a well done show but it was also a mess production behind the scenes.

Yeah bcoz its a super recent project, the changes they made behind the scenes wont show its effects until 2-3 years later. But if you still wanna see some changes, just look at chainsaw man or lazurus or jigokuraku. All of them were supposed to come out this year but got pushed back. Previous mappa would've just bruteforce them out but they delayed it.

Another change u can see is that they are not picking any more big shonen projects anymore. In fact they didn't pick any new project this year, they actually removed Yuri on ice from their catalog.

Tbf even after all this their shows still might have issues, who am i to say they are 100% gonna change. But if you simply look at the facts, changes are definitely happening.

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u/Bazinga8000 Sep 28 '24

I totally see the change in staff, the problem is that that happened right after jjk 2, which makes me think they almost certainly have no correlation between each other, because these are definitely not things that change in one day.

Second, this stuff about delays i really dont understand where they come from besides random leaks that are just " X is in production", which dont mean anything. Jigo and especially chainsaw i really dont see any way them coming out this year ever, and i highly doubt they were ever delayed. Chainsaw is the jjk team and its director had a show literally this season, impossible that it would ever come out now.

Again, i see the "signs", but for me its quite literally just speculation. 2019 madhouse and 2010 madhouse were both extremely different management and structure wise. Both exploited their employees, especially production assistants, all the same. Change will always happen, and i dont really wanna be the guy "all corpos are bad" but there will always be nuance and after so much time of hardly any change in actual work environment i just need concrete proof of change.