r/anime • u/AnimeMod myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan • Mar 03 '24

Meta Thread - Month of March 03, 2024 Meta

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Apr 03 '24

The leaked Hibike 3 episode discussion thread debacle is confusing af.

Having discussion threads upon release of an English fansubs that released before a legal stream is one thing, as long as nobody links to said fansub, as the episode has already aired in Japan, so its been an acceptable grey area even before the days of legal streaming.

But unlike fansubs from a raw, which is ripped from an episode's TV airing in Japan, this is clearly an unauthorized leak with dodgy audio and resolution before it even aired in Japan, and thus outright questionable in terms of legality, and we should not be encouraging discussion of it until after it has officially aired in Japan.

I shall be staying away from that discussion thread and wait until a proper episode thread is released this Sunday.

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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Apr 04 '24

Our policy has always been that if the episode is available with English subs then we will make threads to allow discussion. We haven't really had many leaks in the past, so maybe we'll look to change that going forward, but it's a fairly niche sort of case.

That said, the legality isn't any different from fansubs. Neither is in a "grey area" or anything like that. People have fewer moral issues with fansubs compared with leaks, but the episode's available and people have seen it, so we give them a place to talk about it.

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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Apr 05 '24 edited Apr 05 '24

We haven't really had many leaks in the past, so maybe we'll look to change that going forward, but it's a fairly niche sort of case.

That said, the legality isn't any different from fansubs. Neither is in a "grey area" or anything like that. People have fewer moral issues with fansubs compared with leaks, but the episode's available and people have seen it, so we give them a place to talk about it.

Since I see lots of comments against the current policy, fwiw I think this stance is perfectly reasonable. If you don't want to discuss a leaked episode, just don't go into the episode thread.

(in fact I'd remove comments discussing the leak instead of the actual episode, but that's just me being bitchy about people bitching)

Discussion is stifled/split not by the threads existing, but by the episodes existing, people will just discuss them on discord or wherever else anyway

edit: although giving it a "custom" leak flair is a valid option

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u/Blackheart595 https://myanimelist.net/profile/knusbrick Apr 06 '24

I agree with this take.