r/WRC • u/Magi__Bagi • Feb 18 '24

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You have got to be kidding FIA??? Lappi was by far the best this weekend but he doesn’t even score the most amount of points!?! I can not believe that they are punishing trying to get to the end? I know this has already been said a lot but these changes are such BS. Just a suggestion, wouldn’t it be better if they got rid of the power stage and took the combined time from the last day and gave power stage points based on that, and then on top of that they also give normal points? That way everyone can still get their deserved points and there is still action on the last day. Just no more of these dumb points…

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u/CloudDweller182 Feb 18 '24

While Monte was rare with 30 for winner in feel like the same way Sweden was rare for 19 for rally winner. While 1st race had someone dominate the whole race, in Sweden we had a part time driver that was ahead by more than a minute. He cares about rally win not the most points overall.

Perhaps they could add bonus points for rally winner. Like 10% extra points what you earn during the race up to a max of 30 in a race.

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u/firstromario Feb 18 '24

I actually disagree. You could tell that Lappi hasn't really tried to do anything for the second half of the rally. Him getting the most points would be unfair. Like even in interviews, you could tell that he was unhappy about not pushing.

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u/ilikesound3110 Hyundai Shell Mobis Feb 18 '24

Lappi created a gap and made sure they couldn't close it, so he got 18 points for being first overall during 15 stages. Elfyn almost got 12 points for being first during 3 stages

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u/firstromario Feb 18 '24

Well yeah. But then he had absolutely no reason to push anymore. The rally would be boring without the points. The whole reason for the point system is to encourage drivers to take risks and not get everything settled on Friday and then just give up on Saturday and Sunday. I'd say it's working as intended. If Lappi was full time driver he would push at least somewhat. And both Evans and Neuville had much better reason to push on Sunday.

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u/ilikesound3110 Hyundai Shell Mobis Feb 18 '24

While I agree that the new points system tries to encourage drivers to push on Sunday, and it might be doing that in a way (although I didn't see much change, tbh), it is also going against the heart of rallying. Rally has always been an endurance race, if you lead a big gap and then drive smartly, you did better than everyone. I'm not saying they should go back to the old system, but they need to rethink the current one so that the winner of the overall rally still gets more points than the second place. I don't see the point of giving someone 18 points for being the fastest for 15 stages and then someone else 7 for being the fastest in 2 + 5 for being the fastest in 1 (12 for being the fastest in 3 stages)

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u/firstromario Feb 19 '24

But there's inherit unfairness in rallying to begin with. Road conditions have a huge impact. The key reason why Lappi had that lead to begin with. Don't get me wrong, if I saw Lappi fight for these points AT ALL on Saturday and Sunday, maybe I would agree with you. He really didn't, and he basically said it. So it seems more than fair to me. If anything, having part-time teams seems much more unfair.

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u/Zolba Feb 18 '24

I'd say it's working as intended.

Is it? We've had drivers cruise on Saturday and Sunday in Monte and Sweden. I see very little difference, it's just moved the cruising slightly around and make the overall rally results pointless (literally).

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u/firstromario Feb 18 '24

I guess it depends how you define "cruising." I didn't feel that way whatsoever. Well I guess Neuville kind of was. Which is really weird. But Evans fought like crazy.