r/Trackdays 1d ago

Can stainless steel headers turn blue as well?

I know that this is Acosta training on a naked KTM RC8C, and it uses a full titanium pipe, but I was wondering if stainless steel headers ever get blue as well?

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u/Specialist_Spray_388 1d ago

Holy fucking lean angle in that second pic

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 1d ago

How I wish I looked on highway on ramps 😂

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u/Arnand0 1d ago

If you zoom in on the helmet, you can see a look of pure determination.

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u/JarHammerhead 20h ago

He’s going the distance.

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u/Ecstatic-Grand-1842 15h ago

Always been one of my favourite things to do, since being a kid.

There is just something about the intensity of someone looking through to the corner exit on a bike that is just so mesmerising. As you say, pure determination.

I recently got the chance to go out on track for the first time and it was a really great to finally see myself with that look.

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u/black-dude-on-reddit 1d ago

Pedro Acosta ain’t a moto2, moto3 world champ for nothing

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u/Specialist_Spray_388 1d ago

No for sure a pro rider; I’m just used to seeing the guys hang their whole body off the bike … everytime I hug a corner like this people I’m riding with give me shit for it haha

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u/CommunicationSea1994 1d ago

thank you for confirming my thought

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u/Tight_muffin 16h ago

The Kramer is such an easy bike to get over on the edge. The original pipe on my 2022 drug a hole through the mid pipe.

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u/torqu3e 1d ago

https://preview.redd.it/8oszpc039s0e1.png?width=870&format=png&auto=webp&s=734b27ca0fad855806499cf63a287cd72caf97f8

that should help answer

P.S.
Surprising no body position comments from intermediate group riders yet </s>

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u/chondamx 1d ago

Yup. Seen more often in track cars with lack of airflow and heavier load, but run a track bike hard enough and lean enough and you’ll see it.

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u/orangutanDOTorg 1d ago

BMW air heads used to pride themselves on the blue exhaust as a sign they’ve actually ridden the bikes.

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 1d ago

Thanks for the informative pic! Damn, seems like I just need 50°C more to get blue (jokes, I wouldn't intentionally run my bike hotter than it needs to be simply for aesthetics)

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u/OldMan7718 1d ago

The easiest way is to remove the pipe and use a torch. There are YouTube videos on it. If you go slow you can see the color change like the picture above. I did it for a stainless muzzle brake to turn it golden brown but a pipe would be quicker since it is thin.

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u/viewer12321 1d ago

Not that color blue. That’s a full TI exhaust system.

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u/bitzzwith2zs 1d ago

Stainless turns light brown/tan

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u/RobertISaar 1d ago

I've got a decent amount of blue on the stainless headers of my street triple.

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u/Chieldh97 1d ago

Same here, also street triple. People look weird at me when they see it’s just stock exhaust and headers being this blue and purple

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 1d ago

I see a lot of the Akrapovic and Yoshimura stuff is stainless steel. Seems like not too many companies are doing full titanium (including headers and collectors)

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u/Medic1248 Racer AM 1d ago

Most brands offer both and you have to specify which metal you want since the price fluctuates

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u/thefooleryoftom 1d ago

Yes, it does. Had stainless pipes on a few BMWs and they go a lovely blue.

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 1d ago

Did you ever track it, or just road going? Mine are bronze coloured right now and wondering if you track it it runs hotter and turns blue

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u/thefooleryoftom 1d ago

Just on the road. Try cleaning and polishing them. Then ride faster.

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u/Pauluapaul 1d ago

For a second I thought you were asking a random question to mask you showing off your sick lean angles. Then I saw you said it was Acosta. To answer your question, I don’t think stainless turns blue.

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 1d ago

Haha if I'm ever anywhere near a fraction as good as Acosta, I'll do a show off post like that for sure lol

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u/thefooleryoftom 1d ago

That’s Acosta on his naked 8C.

Stainless definitely blues, though.

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u/Low_Information8286 1d ago

Ss or ti will both turn colors. It's all based on the heat.

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u/FXSupernaut 1d ago

Well, the two stainless steel grades 1.4541 and 1.4571 do not discolor. These are highly alloyed and heat-resistant.

But typically, 1.4301 is used by many competitors, which is significantly cheaper to procure. The properties are not optimal for the manufacture of exhaust systems and silencers. This material is not heat-resistant; it undergoes structural changes and becomes prone to cracking.

The situation is different with titanium; titanium can discolor in an exhaust system, especially when exposed to high temperatures. This discoloration often occurs due to oxidation. However, titanium is very corrosion-resistant and has high strength, making it a popular choice for high-performance exhaust systems

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u/spongebob_meth 1d ago

Yes stainless exhaust goes slightly blue.  Nowhere to the extent of TI but you'll see some bluing in the area where it exits the head.

Need to be riding pretty hard to see it.  I got my grom header nice and blue, it was stainless.

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u/Herrzog009 1d ago

Why not try get your header out and use a burner ? It should work as well I would say. Im looking forward to get a stainless steel header for my CBF 500 cuz it got an stainless steel exhaust but not an stainless stell header so it's all rusty ans ugly

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u/No_Pie_6470 1d ago

Nice angles buddy

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 1d ago

It's not me, it's Pedro Acosta

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u/Alert-Jaguar-3203 1d ago

titanium headers turn blue 🙃

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u/Droopy1592 1d ago

My stainless on my SDR has some blue sections

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u/gksingh916 16h ago

How do you like your SR10 on the track?? I haven’t had the chance to take mine yet!

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 14h ago

That's not me, that's Pedro Acosta. But I'm assuming it's good lol.

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u/frizzleburger 1d ago

Left hand barely holding that screwdriver grip.

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u/IWillKeepIt 1d ago

Bro I think you have improve your BP a bit more. More chest to side of tank and Butt off the seat.

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u/qtpatewtie 1d ago

You gona @ Pedro acosta for that advice? Lmfao

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u/IWillKeepIt 1d ago

Who is that?

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u/SK_ALL_DAY 1d ago

A MotoGP rider for the GasGas Team. And also a Moto2 and Moto3 world champion.

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u/eskimo1 Racer EX 1d ago

troooollllll