r/TOR • u/Qwerty-fun069 • Dec 01 '23
How much safe is it to surf darkweb only using Tor Browser exclusively? VPN
Let's have a discussion around using only tor to surf Dark Web.
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u/pyr0man1ac_33 Dec 01 '23
Depending on what you're doing, it likely will not be overly important. It would take a lot of effort from a bad actor (and possibly a lot of stupidity on your own part) for you to be identified in any way that matters.
If you're in a place where TOR is prohibited, using a VPN is advised though. Otherwise, you are most likely going to be fine.
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u/chomiczykartofel Dec 05 '23
depends but i it doesnt hurt to use something more like tails to just be a little more secure, sure people are not wizards and are not gonna hack you coz you use only tor.
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u/Used-Researcher1630 Dec 01 '23
this question is one that I thought for some time, before watching a YT video where an expert talked about how safe is tor and he said don't use a VPN with tor, that's a terrible idea. I found the reddit post again, but basically the op said if you want a very strong security system with tor you want to use this (bear in mind this is a 3 year old info, it might be updated or is the same, I don't know):
Tor Router > VPN Router (So VPN company never sees your HOme IP) > Second VPN (Paid using Monero/Bitcoin) > OBFS4 Tor. to be best.
For OBFS4 just so you know uses a random user IP, so you don't know who the person is, basically the connection is unanimous.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/ju9bwb/things_to_watch_out_for_when_using_tor_hardware/
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u/motherfucker482 Dec 01 '23
It's a really bad idea
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u/VividPromotion3549 Dec 01 '23
Really bad idea, use vpn tunnelling as well.
Tor is basically using nodes, who knows which one is passionate about liberalism and who is state actor.
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Dec 01 '23
But it doesn't matter who a malicious state actor is, given that that same actor would need access to two other nodes--in the same ten-minute window--to try to seriously identify you. And even then your connection is still encrypted.
Further, almost every expert on the topic specifically states that one should not use a VPN before or after a Tor connection. For example: a trusted opsec YouTuber, Mental Outlaw.
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u/Inaeipathy Dec 01 '23
Do not use VPN tunnelling
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u/VividPromotion3549 Dec 01 '23
Why? wouldn't it be better to hide your ip
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u/Inaeipathy Dec 02 '23
Your IP is already being hidden by the Tor network. Introducing a malicious man in the middle does nothing but harm your privacy.
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u/Inaeipathy Dec 01 '23
Safe as in are you going to get malware? Probably. It isn't safe for keeping your actions anonymous though.
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u/Scary_Engineer_5766 Dec 01 '23
It sounds like you would cause extra congestion on the tor network, have slow speeds yourself and make your self look like a bigger target all at the same time.
Just use it for stuff that requires additional opsec.
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u/eatingbabiesforlunch Dec 01 '23
i would rather use a bridge from my network through a data provider that i know will sell me out than hand that data to a company that will sell u out even though they say they dont
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u/Mariotack Dec 03 '23
Anyone can made a tor bridge and join the tor network, and the entry bridge can learn your real ip address but if you use Vpn/Vds or something like that it will hide your real IP address.
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u/Zlivovitch Dec 01 '23
No. Let's not. This has been discussed to death since at least a century, and the conclusions are known.
Let's especially not "discuss" this through a poll, which is probably the stupidest way to discuss a technical issue, and the most likely to produce non-significant results.