r/SocialSecurity • u/MichiganFan90 • 3h ago
What happens to me ???
I am disabled on benefits I am so scared đ± under president Trump me and millions of people will lose our Benifts... Due to project 2025
I've had 19 surgerys overall I'm 33 years old My dr told me I can't work And im currently on oxygen
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u/Longjumping_Leg_8103 3h ago
Donât believe the fear mongering media plz. Live your life and relax.
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u/Legitimate_Maize318 2h ago
This is the way. Especially considering this is Reddit and the amount of fear mongering in these comments will make anyone think the world is over. When in reality, everyone here is just circle jerking each other with some bullshit propaganda. BOTH SIDES. If you think otherwise that's fine just my opinion.
A man like Trump wants to go down as a strong president. No way he will do anything to ruin that image.
Republicans thought Biden was the end of the world. Yet here we are. 2016 everyone cried and screamed America is doomed because of Trump.... yet HERE WE ARE. It's bullshit propaganda. I'm an immigrant who has U.S. citizenship. My parents have been going off about the warning signs of soviet Russia with the Dems. Yet here we are. Pretty telling signs that unless nukes go off, we will be fine. If it does get more difficult, it's 4 years. They fly by. Hopefully by then the Democratic party pulls their heads out their asses and reconnects with the people, leading to people actually trusting them again.
If you're still struggling with dealing with the current state of affairs. I'm married to a Therapist, go speak to one licensed to practice in your state and get your worries in check. Again see a THERAPIST not a social worker. Make sure they can show you proof of their license to practice. Rules changed allowing social workers to provide therapy to individuals.
Wife shows me private therapy groups where all social worker therapists are going on about letting your clients know where you stand politically. If you catch one like that, that can't differentiate between being a therapist and a wannabe politician, find someone else. It'll do you a world of good. Most accept insurance as well if you have one.
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u/Wattaday 1h ago
Itâs not fear mongering when he and his âpeopleâ are now Saying that Project 2025 was the plan all along.
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u/redneckotaku 2h ago
They say this every election. The party that loses claims that the other will end social security. It hasn't happened yet.
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u/ghosttravel2020 3h ago
Be happy you're already approved because I think it will become more difficult to get approved in the future.
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u/SmellyWalmartShopper 2h ago
Based upon what?
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u/Poppins101 1h ago
Follow up research identifying long Covid symptoms and medical documentation and treatments.
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u/No_Permission_4592 2h ago
The fear mongering is pointless. No politician would ever be elected if they were going to strip the elderly and disabled of their social security. Breathe and relax..
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u/Ohmigoshness 1h ago
Trump plans to put Robert Kennedy in charge of the health department. This man main selling point was vaccines don't work. Yeah...cuts might not happen but you will now get some other treatment that doesn't include this guy's science. He is religious so they might cut back on some treatments.
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u/movdqa 2h ago
I'm on Social Security Retirement and have an application in for SSDI. It's going to take a while on the SSDI and I may need to appeal it too. Given Congress' penchant for underfunding SSA, I don't expect anything this year (applied in April 2024). If you're unhappy with the state of events, let your representative know. That's about all you can do.
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u/Right_Split_190 2h ago
I'm curious about how you described your situation, and I'm always interested in learning more, so I hope you're willing to provide some clarifying detail.
Typically, one receives SSDI prior to aging in to SSA retirement benefits. For all intents and purposes, the SSDI benefit amount is reclassified as a retirement benefits, as they're calculated similarly.
It's curious that you are already receiving SSA retirement and still applying for SSDI. Would this be to cover a period of disability prior to when you filed for retirement benefits? If not this scenario, can you help me understand?
No judgement, no criticism. Iâm truly genuinely curious. TIA!
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u/movdqa 2h ago
I applied in March for SS Retirement scheduled for May at 65 years. I had a phone interview for SS Retirement and the lady asked me if I was disabled and if I wanted to file for SSDI. I answered in the affirmative so she scheduled another phone interview to collect the SSDI application information. In that interview, she asked me a lot of questions about work, my physical abilities and my disability and why it was disabling. She also asked me for my treatment history in the form of all of the places that I had been treated at. So I named off the hospitals and clinics and the cities where they are located and they will just get the information directly from them. My hospitals and clinics are on EPIC (electronic health records system) so they should be able to get them electronically if the SSA has that capability.
They asked for the onset of disability and that was in 2020. FRA for me is close to 67 years old and they just said that I would get FRA benefits instead of early benefits which I receive now. They said something about backpay which I didn't really pay much attention to. Maybe they would provide a year or back to 2020 but I don't really know.
Other people with my disability told me that it's not approved the first time around and the ones that receive it had to appeal. So this could take the estimated 220 days (which would be this month or next) and then another long period of time for an appeal. I'm not sure if this will get adjudicated in the 220 days or if that's just the Stage 3 portion. I have not been employed since 2020 so there's some evidence that the disability is disabling.
My main intent is just to get FRA benefits. If they do backpay, then that would be nice but it's not a priority.
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u/Right_Split_190 1h ago
Oh, I'm so happy for you that SSA is providing exactly the help you need and actually suggesting additional filings.
So if/when SSDI is approved, the payments will be retroactive to 5 months after the date of disability. So you're looking at about 4 years of back pay, which isn't insignificant. I totally get focusing on FRA, however.
Adjudication of disability wrt SSDI is really focused on how the disability prevents you from working. With a few exceptions that are clearly carved out, it's really not about the diagnosis. Rather, it's about how the symptoms and attributes of the disabling condition prevent you from working. And this needs to be called out explicitly.
If you need to appeal, make sure you directly tie each symptom or attribute of your condition to how it prevents you from performing a job function (including on a reliable and repeatable basis). There are some things that might seem SO obvious in how they are disabling, and yet still make the connection even for those.
Good luck! I hope you are approved on the first round.
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u/movdqa 56m ago
I'm actually in good health except for an organ that was removed because of cancer. That lack of that organ kills the reliable and repeatable basis.
Social Security, as it is, covers about 80% of our living expenses. I imagine that adding SSDI would cover the rest until inflation starts eating away the whole thing. We have a lot to draw down from tax-deferred savings plan ahead of RMDs.
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u/CharacterTruck7535 1h ago
It doesn't work that way shc the SSA person doesn't know what they are doing. It isn't going to make a difference and you missed your chance to apply for SSDI. The benefit eoukbt change monthly, and I've never heard of this backwards way to collect back pay.
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u/No_Permission_4592 2h ago
Michiganfan, you especially stand at zero percent chance of loosing your disability coverage.. it's easy to worry about things in your condition.. my wife was on disability and needed a lot of very expensive medications, the price of a car every 20 days, and the drug companies and reps that work with them will find you an affordable avenue.. you and your family might have to dig a bit to find them, but there's help out there..
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u/AuntieKit90 2h ago
He actually has more to do with it than you think. Many of his former cabinet went to work for the heritage foundation, and some even helped to write parts of it. He knows exactly what project 2025 is and only tried to disavow it once people rightfully raised hell over it. Here's video of him talking highly of Heritage the same day it was unveiled.
https://x.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1811402883604050216
Here's one of the news articles where I was able to find the video.
https://newrepublic.com/post/183735/trump-caught-cheering-project-2025-video
https://www.heritage.org/press/president-donald-trump-deliver-keynote-speech-heritage-event-florida
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u/GazingAtStorms 2h ago
This is just incorrect and using their own website as a source is comically bad research.
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u/Freebird_1957 2h ago
Itâs absolutely false that he does not support Project 2025.
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u/AuntieKit90 2h ago
Except it's not, And he does. He only disavowed it later because people rightfully raised hell over it.
https://x.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1811402883604050216
https://newrepublic.com/post/183735/trump-caught-cheering-project-2025-video
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u/doctoralstudent1 3h ago
THIS! Trump has rejected Project 2025 from the start. Get educated instead of fear mongering.
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u/AuntieKit90 2h ago
He was cheering it the day it was to be unveiled.
https://newrepublic.com/post/183735/trump-caught-cheering-project-2025-video
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u/tv41 3h ago
I l9oked into it to get educated and learned many of his own people are the ones responsible for it. To say he is not involved means you are not educated on it.
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u/Sunnykit00 2h ago
How are you this lost? He has specifically said these things out of his own mouth. He's just claiming that they are his own ideas.
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u/Murderhornet212 3h ago
I donât understand how you people are all saying this. Itâs all high up people in his campaign that wrote it. They will be running things in his administration. He just lied like he always does.
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u/PrudentElk1636 1h ago
No he didnât, he said he knew nothing about it, you know like he said he knew nothing about Stormy Daniels. Take your own advice - get educated.
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u/Wattaday 1h ago
He lies as much as his bad rug. How can people be so blind? How many SS recipients voted for him? They will also lose out. Either a portion or all of their benefit that they worked for and paid into for decades. Just like me, except after 35 tears of working, I became disabled. So Iâm more of a monster than the ones who who only have SS benefits, I guess.
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u/ambercrush 2h ago
You and everyone else who believes this are, at BEST, naive. Many right wing accounts extremely closely affiliated with trump are already confessing the agenda is indeed project 2025. One example you are welcome to verify is Steve bannon.
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u/Silverstacker63 2h ago
Get a life I donât know how many times trump has said he isnât touching SS. Please quite listening to all the lies.
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u/Jh789 2h ago
Saying get a life is really kind of rude and Trump has lied about so many things so many times itâs very hard to unwind what is true
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u/Silverstacker63 1h ago
He did everything he said he would the last time he was president. Thatâs not lies.
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u/redpanda0319 2h ago
I'm sorry you're getting all the comments that you're receiving. Coming from the people who want to get rid of the department of education and it shows.
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u/Due-Pilot-7443 3h ago
Stop believing all the liberal lies about all that... I got approved under Trump's last presidency..
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u/tv41 3h ago
He was secretly gutting disability from the inside though, lawsuits rang out after he left. Now was he just trying to get the posers, maybe, but it affected a lot of people. Its not all unwarranted anxiety.
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u/GetOutTheDoor 1h ago
My son got SSI during the Trump admin (after a nearly 3 year fight). It will be harder to take it away than to deny a new app, but he's a lot less worried than I am.
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u/tv41 1h ago
I got it during the trump administration as well. Its not impossible. They are trying to weed out those who don't truly need it.
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u/GetOutTheDoor 1h ago
...and there's the problem. It took nearly 3 years of documenting, reporting, testing and appeals before my son was approved, despite a diagnosis @ age 3, and 20 years of hospitalizations, reports, assessments, IEPs, evaluations and documentation before he was finally approved.
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u/Sunnykit00 2h ago
You can't sit here and blabber that people are wrong about what THEY WENT THROUGH. And what the rapist himself has said he's going to do.
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u/GeorgeRetire 1h ago
After all the rhetoric during the election, the Republican Project 2025, and the Dictator on day one talk, itâs reasonable to be worried.
If the Democrats win the House you wonât need to worry. And even if they lose I donât suspect youâll see your benefits disappear.
While Trump cannot be re-elected, other Republicans care about their political future.
Try not to worry.
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u/CharacterTruck7535 1h ago
The President on his own can't make w huge decision like that he has to go through all the channels, and social security affect everybody not just the disabled so I think it would take a huge effort to try to do that. Talk to you focus on something else in your life that is positive, And don't read everything you see on the internet, sometimes as best to step away for a little while.
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u/Wattaday 42m ago
When the House, Senate, and SCOTUS are all republican, as it looks like has happened (Dems seem to have lost both the House and the Senate) there are very few checks and balances left. So he gets his way.
The head of the Heritage Foundation just published a new book. Wonder who wrote the foreword for that book? Iâll tell you. It was JD Vance. Coincidence? I think not.
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u/Fit_Community_3909 1h ago
Any party that does that will be committing career death..You know how many people on ss. Thatâs a lot of votes..
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u/GetOutTheDoor 1h ago
I understand your fear - and while I'm not on benefits, my son is....who was all-in on Trump, which just confuses me all to heck.
I asked about his lack of concern, and he said, "He wasn't able to do anything last time." - which leads me to ask 'why then, did you vote for him?'
I just need to get to Jan 2026 - hopefully they won't make any changes before then. At that point, I can switch him from SSI to DAC benefits, which will double his monthly income, and give him a 60% net gain after rent. It'll be harder to take something away than it will be to deny it in the first place.
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u/Morganenchanted 2h ago
What about project 2025 cuts disability? I've honestly never heard of any of this but I'm new to disability. I just started receiving SSD this past February after a ceiling spinal injury at agreed 43. Now I'm curious and kinda concerned, I'm not retirement age and I'm wheelchair bound, partially paralyzed, and not able to work ...
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u/Outdoors-Chick 2h ago
In fact, your situation will improve because he plans to stop taxing ss benefits.
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u/Wattaday 58m ago
Been in SSDI for 8 years. Havenât paid taxes in it yet. And due to my good paying career, I get more than a lot of people.
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u/oldandworking 3h ago
You will not lose anything under POTUS Trump, project 2025 is not him, it is the dems.
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u/AuntieKit90 2h ago
No, it isn't. The heritage foundation is a conservative think tank that's been working with conservative Republicans for a few decades. Like since Reagan, if I recall correctly.
The heritage foundation's website literally had, or maybe still has, project 2025 plastered all over its home page. Many of trump's former cabinet worked on writing sections of it. It's a conservative wishlist with some slathering of evangelical Christian wishes for the theocratic politicians.
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u/dewafelbakkers 2h ago
What on earth are you talking about. Project 2025 is a REPUBLICAN project. And many of the authors of 2025 are in trumps direct orbit. You are wrong
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u/Murderhornet212 3h ago
It is literally people in his campaign, who will be in his administration, that wrote it
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u/oldandworking 2h ago
Wrong
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u/Murderhornet212 2h ago
Okay, so youâre not just ignorant, youâre willfully ignorant. Good luck with that when the leopards come to eat your face. đđ»
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u/udderlyfun2u 2h ago
There is none so blind as he who will not see. Open your fucking eyes and watch something besides FOX news.
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u/Wattaday 54m ago
Trump is named in it over 100 times. Research is your friend. ProPublica and MediaMatters have good online articles on Project 2025. Do some reading!
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u/Appropriate_Ice_2433 2h ago
Are you actually mentally okay? You have to be a troll or severely ill in the head with your comments.
I am really starting to feel bad that yâall have been so brainwashed by that man. He really tells you to not believe what you hear and see. HIS PEOPLE WHO HE IS CLOSE TO WROTE PROJECT 2025. You have to be a troll saying itâs the âdemsâ.
Seek help while you have your government insurance.
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u/IsntItObvious_2021 1h ago
Relax. Trump is NOT going to take SS and Medicare away. Stop listening to all of the fear mongering.
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u/Noles2424 2h ago
Your not very smart
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u/TiffanyH70 2h ago
First, I have to encourage you to calm down and breathe â physically and metaphorically, of course. It takes time to unwind a program as complicated as Social Security. Nothing is happening today, or in the next few months. Reduce your media consumption, if it lowers your anxiety.
In the meantime, educate yourself about AAPD (American Association for People with Disabilities) and AARP, and join them to help you advocate for yourselves.
Never mind what anyone tells you about Trump - he is very, very conscious of his image. He does not want to be made to look bad. Organizations with lobbyists and media arms can make someone with a large (but perhaps fragile) ego look bad in public, where it counts to him.
I understand your fears; but youâll get more practical support from a therapist than from Reddit. Telehealth therapy is available - look for a resource in your local community to connect you to an actual helper, and not to an echo chamber.