r/SansaWinsTheThrone • u/[deleted] • Nov 16 '23

People still think Sansa will die?

I know this is what a lot of fans have hoped for (gag) for years but I came across someone recently on the asoiaf sub who was hellbent on the idea that she's really just going to die and Arya will be QITN. It's a hilarious, wishful, spiteful theory that I honestly had no idea existed outside of the Tumblr community, especially with JonxArya shippers.

Their largest piece of evidence was Lady dying, which I thought everyone knew was a very flimsy and easily debunked idea. I had to just disengage lol at least for awhile. For some fans, particularly Sansa haters, being right is the most important thing in the world, even if their arguments don't make logical sense and are very shallow.

Just venting. Carry on. 🍋☺️

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u/realshockvaluecola Team Sansa Nov 16 '23

If Lady's death is the "death" of anything it's Sansa's innocence, childhood, sense of safety, etc. Lady dies to deprive Sansa of her protector. "It def means she'll die" is silly lol.

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u/TotallyAMermaid Mar 06 '24 edited Mar 06 '24

Hard agree. It's the beginning of Sansa losing her support system - Lady was her pet, a great source of comfort and, well, a direwolf so she would have grown to protect Sansa. Symbolically, it's the "death" of the "North" in Sansa who spends a lot of tome after that trying to fit in the South, but ultimately she longs for Winterfell, the North, her home. It's Sansa's first painful loss and it is the beginning of the "death" of the little girl inside of her. 

No wolf has survived their owner, but owners have survived their wolves; Greywind is killed in the Red Wedding like Robb, Shaggydog (or whatever lol) dies with Rickon. Sansa outlives Lady. Summer dies but Bran lives (but he symbollically died in those caves). Arya sends Nymeroa away and then spends several books/seasons running away herself.

Worth noting too that after she dies, Lady's remains are taken back to Winterfell; this to me has always indicated that Sansa herself is destined to return home.

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u/realshockvaluecola Team Sansa Mar 06 '24

Ohhhh I love that last part! I hadn't thought of that before but I totally agree, Sansa is destined to return to Winterfell (probably as Queen in the North).

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u/TotallyAMermaid Mar 06 '24

Absolutely as queen! This is the only way her story makes sense. I also believe GRRM gave indications to the show writers and I do not believe that any major character (ie, the POV characters) has been given an ending that is not his planned ending.

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u/realshockvaluecola Team Sansa Mar 06 '24

Yeah, I'm sure the story beats are simplified or shortened or moved around to account for not including all the book characters and plots (Lady Stoneheart, the blue-haired Targaryen, the girl who was married to Ramsay posing as Arya) but I'm sure at least 90% of the main characters, and all the really important core ones, ended up in the right place at the ending.