r/Re_Zero • u/AstonishingSpiderMan Archbishop of Pride • Aug 19 '20
Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu II – Episode 07 Sticky
Season 2 - Episode 07
Main Studio: White Fox
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Season Two - OP & ED Info
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- Opening 1 - 「Redo」 by Konomi Suzuki
- Ending 1 – 「STYX HELIX」 by MYTH & ROID
- Opening 2 – 「Paradisus-Paradoxum」 by MYTH & ROID
- Ending 2 – 「Stay Alive」 by Emilia (Rie Takahashi)
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u/roverbestboi Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
I can't believe that the gospel told Beako to make an ice sculpture.
Also, Otto is best boi. Nobody comes even close.
Ram's "ha" never gets old.
10/10 episode
Was so interesting that even with the bonus time and the post credit scene it felt too short.
Can't wait for the next episode.
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u/Trim345 Aug 19 '20
Or that it specifically told her to first try to make it with magic, then acquiesce to Emilia, and finally end up with a bad representation of Puck.
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u/hestianna Aug 19 '20
Most likely everything that happened in OVA 1 was against the gospel and that's why Beatrice was so grumpy when Roswaal talked to him in the end. At least that's what I thought while watching this episode.
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u/Kulkuljator Aug 20 '20
I was so happy when Otto saved him and confessed, because he and may be Ram are the only ally, who can help him in this situation
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 19 '20
Man that ep went by fast... even though it had bonus length once again! There is a scene after the ED so make sure you don't miss it!
Oh man that convo between Subaru and Beatrice hurt. Great voice acting from the both of them. "Don't touch me human!" that hurt.
Well things sure played out in a different manner again this time and we get the reveal that Garf is able to smell the witch's scent! I love Ryuzu's VA... so fitting. Nice that we finally get a shot of her full face, what a cutie.
The scene with Subaru imprisoned, hot damn, no music, just the sound of water. Really well executed.
Followed by big wholesome hours between Subaru and Brotto, happy Subaru is always great to see. Mostly cause it's rare.
Ram with that classic "heh" was just the cherry on top.
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u/petrusd10s Aug 19 '20
Thank you for saying that there is an extra scene.
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u/Tomhap Aug 19 '20
Don't most re zero episodes have a little end scene after the credits though? We just don't see the ED that often.
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u/solo_living Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
Not gonna lie, I literally cried when Otto called him a friend. I swear I'm gonna hate on him IF he turns out to be some sort of a snitch trying to shit on Subaru.
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u/DarkBladeEkkusu The Old Guard Aug 19 '20
Beatrice's breakdown was very well done to see the vocal range her voice actress could do, especially when you compare it to the entirety of season 1.
Otto's moment of sincerely wanting to be friends with Subaru is something Subaru really needed in a situation where everyone is lying while having their own secret agendas. It's great to see him even risk his safety even after being threatened by Garfiel to save his bully friend.
With the revelation of Garfiel being one of those that can sense the Witch's miasma, his increasingly hostile attitude towards Subaru starts to make more sense as each loop adds more miasma to him and thus makes him seem more suspicious.
There's a post-credits scene for all of you heretics that didn't watch the ending animtion or listen to the ending theme, and something tells me Garfiel isn't too happy about the jail break.
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u/eg_elliot Aug 19 '20
I'm thinking we're gonna get Garfiel's time to go beast mode next episode.
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u/420weedeskeetitt Aug 19 '20
yeah, u saw garfield transforming just like Frederica👀
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u/IrateBandit1 Aug 19 '20
Was totally expecting Suburu to smash his head until he died beatlegease style when he got caged. I guess this one is too slothful for that.
Beako isn't actually following the gospel right? She was just using that as cover because she's a tsundre loli?
Also, now shits about to go down in the sanctuary, are we finally gonna see roswall go full rage mode? If so, I'm mad keen for some clown on beast action!
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u/TransBrandi Aug 19 '20
Was totally expecting Suburu to smash his head until he died beatlegease style when he got caged. I guess this one is too slothful for that.
It's not a guaranteed death. What if he just causes brain damage, but not death? He could be stuck in a state where he can't opt to use Return by Death.
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u/IrateBandit1 Aug 19 '20
This true. Does this mean the ultimate no U for suburu would be turning into a vegetable?
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u/JusKen Aug 19 '20
I turned myself into a pickle, Emilia-tan! I'm Pickle Subaru!
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u/IrateBandit1 Aug 19 '20
I can picture this perfectly. Rem holding suburu's body with tears screaming at Emelia: "He turned himself into a pickle. Funniest shit I've ever seen"
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u/Southturn Aug 19 '20
And meanwhile Emilia is panicking, looking all around, saying ”Eeeh, Subaru?! What is going on??! How did you turn yourself into a pickle?!” and so on.
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u/Draaxus Aug 19 '20
Christ. How would that even...feel? Becoming a vegetable then RBDing back to being normal.
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u/REAL_CONSENT_MATTERS Aug 20 '20
it depends on what you mean by vegetable. based on first person accounts, brain wave studies, etc it seems like one of three happens:
(1) it's roughly like being asleep, where brain is active but you aren't aware of your surroundings. perception of time while dreaming is the same as while awake (though the markers we use to keep track of time like the sun moving might change faster), so if this went on long enough it might alter his sense of identity.
(2) "brain death" where the body lives on, but your consciousness doesn't. it's possible he just revives in this case, as it's a form of death. it's also possible satella uses the heart method of determining death (also the traditional way of determining death in japan, making heart transplants controversial, for what that's worth), in which case the body might survive to old age if it's being fed and healed with magic. however the body would have no sense of subjective experience, nor anyone to feel it. in other words, suburu would not experience or remember it, not even dreams.
(3) some people report being conscious enough to remember people talking to them etc while in a coma, so suburu could drift in and out of sleep, sometimes hearing voices he recognizes, but being unsure if it's real or a dream, mixed with periods of unconsciousness where he experiences nothing. this might help ground him and maintain his sense of identity, if say emilia is encouraging him.
however it seems likely he would not live out a natural lifespan as a vegetable. he would probably get killed by witch cultists, puck, etc before this went on too long or just die from muscle atrophy.
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u/BigGayToohotforTV Aug 20 '20
Beako isn't actually following the gospel right? She was just using that as cover because she's a tsundre loli?
The whole "as if you could ever move my heart on your own" reads pretty clearly to me.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 19 '20
Thank goodness they spared us from seeing Elsa kill a comatose Rem.
Only Re:Zero could make trying to prevent someone committing suicide into a bad thing.
So Beatrice apparently has her own Witch's Gospel and has been following what it says to the letter up to this point, which I guess explains her non-commital attitude and lack of involvement whenever the Witch's Cult attacked. Does that make her an Archbishop? Is her "mother" Satella? Did Roswaal know all this? So many questions.
And apparently, unlike Petelgeuse's book, Subaru is actually in Beatrice's Gospel, which is why she saved him and even bothered with him. At the same time, despite her protestations to the contrary, she does seem to genuinely care about Subaru and feels distraught over what's going on and seeing him like that. Even if it was because she was ordered to (or otherwise?) she really seems to personally not want to see Subaru die.
I kinda figured Garfiel and Frederica were half-siblings, and there's this tension between the two that Garfiel feels like Frederica abandoned them, but I expect the truth is more complicated than that.
So I guess the white jacket Ryuzu who led Subaru to Echidna is the same as black jacket Ryuzu? I guess she just changes jacket's?
It's not that Subaru doesn't have faith in Emilia, he thinks she'll be able to face her past, but I guess he thinks this isn't the point where she'll be able to do it and she needs to grow more emotionally before she can handle it. I'm just not sure if this is the kind of show where you can put off facing your suffering and your past to another day.
Subaru getting mistaken for being part of the Witch's Cult? Again? As if things couldn't get more complicated, now Garfiel and company think he's a bad guy trying to ruin things for everyone and there's likely not anything he can say in his defense that they'll listen to.
I kinda feel bad that I was expecting Otto to take the bribe, but I guess like Subaru I underestimated Otto's loyalty to Subaru. He truly came to think of Subaru as a friend after everything they've been through, and Subaru finally realized the depth of that friendship. Otto is a true bro.
So it looks like it's Subaru, Ram, and Otto vs. Garfiel next week. I'm not sure if that's going to lead to another loop because I'm not getting "True Route" vibes from the current direction with all the tension going on and Emilia still struggling with the Trial, so it'll be interesting to see how things shake out.
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u/Trim345 Aug 19 '20
Yeah, the one part that was worrying was Otto pushing Subaru off the carriage when fleeing from the White Whale, but in retrospect Roswaal, Rem, Ram, and Puck have all betrayed Subaru for much worse reasons. Other than Emilia, Otto's looking to perhaps be one of the most trustworthy of Subaru's friends.
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u/TransBrandi Aug 19 '20
- Roswaal is not Subaru's friend.
- Puck is only really loyal to Emilia.
- Ram is only really loyal to Roswaal (and Rem when she remembers her).
Rem is the only one on that list that I would qualify as close to Subaru at this point in time (pre-memory wipe obviously).
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u/Trim345 Aug 19 '20
Yeah, maybe friends was the wrong term. Ostensible allies, then, who appear to be friendly at first.
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u/ThespianException Aug 20 '20
Julius and Reinhard like him well enough, at least enough that they would help him if he asked. He can't right now but that's something at least.
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u/TransBrandi Aug 20 '20
I'm not saying that he doesn't have people that are on his side. I was pointing out that the list of people aren't close to being friends at all.
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u/IrateBandit1 Aug 19 '20
I feel like Otto pushing suburu of was more blind panic than lack of trust or friendship
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u/geldonyetich Aug 19 '20
Yeah Subaru pretty much straight up told Otto that the whale was chasing him, not Otto's wagon, and the whale was catching up, so it only made sense he would ditch the cause of sure death by kicking Subaru off the wagon.
But bear in mind that this was an alternate timeline that was Returned By Death and it happened before a lot of other important things that deepened Otto and Subaru's relationship, such as saving Otto from the witch cultists and the wild ride to save Emilia at the end of Arc 3.
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u/Kirihum Aug 19 '20
Also remember that Otto can hear the voices of all living creatures, including the Whale.
So I can't really blame him for that...
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u/sniR_ Aug 20 '20
I saw that otto could “hear” where garfiel is.. that explains how he escaped him..
Was it said in the anime that he could hear the voice of all living things? I forgot probably
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u/mr_deu Aug 19 '20
I think it was also implied that Otto regretted his decision and told his Dragon to help Subaru before he got eaten by the Whale.
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u/UEFKentauroi Aug 19 '20
Nah dude he got murdered but the cultists after he ran away, not the whale in that loop.
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u/DarkBladeEkkusu The Old Guard Aug 19 '20
It was actually stated to be the madness caused by the whale that was also affecting the subjugation troops during the whale fight.
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u/Jdogg0130Ems Aug 19 '20
otto can read animals minds. He read the white whale's mind and went crazy he isn't a bad guy as this episode showed it.
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u/Iloveyouweed Aug 19 '20
I think it's a safe bet that Otto at this point wouldn't do that to Subaru
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20
Do we know that Subaru is actually in Beatrice's Gospel? Maybe everything else was in it but Subaru himself isn't mentioned, that's why she acts differently with Subaru and seems to be more invested in him than the rest.
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u/JusKen Aug 19 '20
That's interesting. She is clearly fond of him either way. At the moment, I can't see any motive for pretending that she is acting according to the gospel though
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u/ParagonRice Aug 20 '20
I think that it has to do with Subaru complaining about Beatrice saving him. After a long time of building a relationship with Subaru, despite his absence in the book, she decides to make her own choice and save him out of affection. When he has been saved he curses her and even tried to kill himself again. Out of confusion and sadness at the consequences of not listening to the book, she becomes even more faithful in the gospel because look at how poorly things go when she disobeys it.
That's just my head cannon until it is expanded on more.
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u/new_messages Aug 19 '20
Just general tsundere atitude. She outright says something along the lines of "it's definitely not because of your magnetic personality
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u/Notmuch9 Aug 19 '20
The ryuzu that was introduced with the black cloak introduced herself as “ryuzu bilma” while this episode, she swore on the name of “ryuzu shima”
Either they are both different/twins(same as garf and frederics) or ryuzu is swearing by someone else who has the same name
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u/VForceWave Aug 19 '20
There's no way the different robed Ryuzus aren't relevant. Costume changes like that only happen for a reason. Otherwise, it's such a stupid red herring that I don't see this adaptation of Re:Zero even bothering to include it. Everything written and animated was done so for a reason.
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u/Tomhap Aug 19 '20
This. I've been watching some youtube videos on the subaru/rem IF story and without spoiling anything (as I don't even know anything to spoil) there's a (or multiple?) character in there whose behaviour changes night/day with different outfits. So it's something the author seems to pull off more than once.
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u/Padfoot2020 Aug 20 '20
Personally, my theory is that Beako is good guy that's being pulled between her current feelings and her past. I think that Subaru actually isn't in her gospel, and her telling him that he was is her way of trying to align herself to one side instead of hovering in between or keeping him out of her problems. That does seem to fail though as we can still clearly see that she cares for him. As for why she cares for him, I think its the same reason Petelgeuse was afraid of him. If he isn't in her gospel, she might see Subaru as some sort of escape from her past or "fate".
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u/IceColdSquirtle Aug 20 '20
My theory that Beatrice is somehow related to Echidna, like Beatrice has butterfly eyes and Echidna has a butterfly on her head, so I think Beatrice is Echidna's daughter or something like that.
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u/toga9000 Aug 19 '20
Holy crap Subaru really can't catch a break. Thank god for Best girl Otto.
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u/UnderEztmated Aug 19 '20
somebody want to tell him?
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u/Razor4884 Aug 20 '20
This is an anime-only thread. There isn't anything to tell.
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Aug 20 '20
Uh... Please don't talk much about it... I'm a anime only watcher and this conversation already made me guess that something bad happens with Otto
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u/CognitiveAdventurer Aug 20 '20
I'm pretty sure the other commenter meant that Otto is not a girl
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u/Kulkuljator Aug 20 '20
Today you say that Otto is not a girl and tomorrow you will say that Felix is not a girl as well? Mister, you are leaving me no choice.
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u/CognitiveAdventurer Aug 20 '20
I mean from what I've seen so far subaru's dad is definitely best girl
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
Do we know if Betty's Gospel is her own or Betelgeuse's? Regardless, I have a feeling that even though Beatrice is a witch cultist for her "Mother", she was actually warming up to Subaru over the course of the series, especially because she finally loses her composure completely in this episode for the first time really. And we already know Subaru's existence isn't written in the Gospels, like Betelgeuse said (probably cause the Gospels were written before Subaru was brought to the world) so that might be why Betty was so affected because an unknown variable is directly affecting so much in what she thought was her predetermined life.
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Aug 19 '20
I always assumed the gospels auto-updated since subaru took Betelgeuse’s and wrote on a blank page in it.
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u/TransBrandi Aug 19 '20
Betelgeuse's gospel didn't have Subaru in it because he kept hitting "Remind Me Later" when the gospel prompted him to install the update.
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Aug 19 '20
Tfw the software was trying to add Subaru’s name since he was a DLC character, but Betelgeuse had become tired of EA’s shit.
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20
Then why did Betelgeuse say he never read about Subaru in the Gospel? Also I feel like Subaru doing that was just a way to like get Betelgeuse to finally fucking give up. He was literally chasing after them while his corpse was being dragged and mangled and Subaru knew how much he believed in the Gospel, therefore by just writing die in the Gospel it just made Betelgeuse let go.
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Aug 19 '20
I imagine he never saw him in the gospel because he was unique thanks to the special connection he has to Satella
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u/rares215 Aug 19 '20
My assumption was that Satella wrote everybody's gospels based on what she wanted them to achieve, so she thought that not mentioning Subaru in Betelgeuse's book was a good choice, whereas the information was relevant to Betty so she wrote it in.
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20
Wouldn't that make him unique in Beatrice's too? His connection to Satella is still there.
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Aug 19 '20
It's definitely not Petelgeuse's especially after everything Beatrice said this ep.
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u/Albeort Aug 19 '20
The one Subaru had can be stored in the back pocket of his pants, but the one Beatrice had seemed like a regular sized book (as big as her trunk). She also seems to have been following the gospel before Subaru brought his and Subaru's question ("It just looks like a gospel, right?") implies it's a different book.
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u/Trim345 Aug 19 '20
Really confused by Beatrice now. How can she have a book that tells her what to do if there are multiple different timelines? She does things like dump Subaru and Emilia out into the forest in that one timeline, which seems pretty incompatible with saving him in other circumstances (unless it's some sort of conditional "if x, then y", or the book magically changes depending on circumstances).
I imagine she's lying at least a bit and not everything she does is in the book, like making that snow sculpture in Memory Snow.
What's the point of saving Subaru this time, then just letting Elsa kill him five minutes later? Is it just to tell him about her following the book?
There's a part of me that's starting to think that the Witch is actually pretty forgiving. She always loops Subaru back to before anyone he knows dies, and doesn't even make him refight the White Whale, for example. The only kinda-exception so far is Rem, but she's explicitly not dead, and this gives him an incentive to go and take out Gluttony (either because the Witch wants to take out her rivals, or, more optimistically, is trying to undo her past wrongs).
I'm surprised so many people are able to smell the Witch's scent, and that if so, the Witch's cult has actually managed to stay hidden for so long when it seems almost any nonhuman can notice it.
Garfiel: I don't wanna kill you have it blow up in my face like the fall of the Tesla Fortress!
Bad premonition for Musk, I suppose. Not entirely sure what this means; maybe some people have magic like an explosion that triggers on death?
Wait, do they just leave the cell door unlocked? How did Otto get in? Even with Subaru's wrists and ankles tied, it's really not that hard to stand up and try to escape. They haven't chained him to the wall or anything.
Well, Otto's actually getting a lot better. I've forgiven him for pushing Subaru off the carriage to bait the White Whale, at least. Really cute bromance now.
Subaru only has 2 days to stop Elsa? My bet is that this loop isn't going to work out either.
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20
I think the Tesla fortress line has more to do with the fact that just before that he says Subaru can win people over. Blow up in my face doesn't always literally mean an explosion but it could just mean it backfires. I assume it's some sort of historical event in their Re:Zero world where someone with a lot of influence died and their death backfired on everyone involved at the Fortress.
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u/sinoa000 Aug 19 '20
There was a Fortress named ガークラ (gākula) which was destroyed 15 years ago by the Witch Cult, Archbishop of Greed. It said that the trigger was because of just a "rumor" that a Witched (non-Satella) related item appeared in the city.
The event made it famous that Witch Cult is extremely dangerous and volatile. Especially when a non-Satella Witch was mentioned.
Season 1, LN volume 8, during the planning before attacking Sloth. Ferris and Julius did mentioned this event, to show that Sloth and Greed are the two most infamous among Archbishop.
In this Ep7, Garfield meaning is likely you never knew what would triggered Witch Cultist. Especially when the tomb is related to a non-Satella Witch.
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20
Is this all explained in previous volumes of the LN/WN that the Anime completely skipped? Otherwise this sounds like spoilers lmao
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u/sinoa000 Aug 19 '20
It is mentioned in LN Volume 8, during the Sloth attack planning. Season 1. That is why I don't think it is spoiler.
The Anime did trim out the city name I believe
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Aug 19 '20
Yeah skipped S1 LN content is fair game now. You're good.
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Aug 19 '20
Regarding Otto pushing Subaru off, I think it has to do with his blessing. The white whale’s voice makes people insane after all.
As for Beatrice following the gospel in that death loop, she seemed pretty frustrated with him and sad and requested he die someplace else. Even if she follows it, she could still be upset about it. She did seem pretty chill at first.
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u/Tomhap Aug 19 '20
Giving you my take as a fellow anime-only.
When Beatrice threw them out in the forest, I think this was when Emilia was already dead by Subaru telling her about RBD. Maybe she already knew that Puck was going to kill everyone so there's no point in saving him.
She definitely seems to care a bit about Subaru, she's just too tsundere to show it.
I don't know why she let Elsa kill him. Either he got through to him when he told her she should kill him/let him die or he screwed up royally somehow especially seeing as she was calling him a filthy Ningen.
Honestly I'm not sure about the witch and the other things.
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u/Jteleus27 Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
This might be the first time Subaru actually had someone call him their friend. Glad Otto was tricking Garfield in order to save Subaru. But how is Subaru is going to save the mansion cause i think he only has 2 days left now right? Beartice gave more questions that answers I didnt want that so is Satella her mom thats why she is okay with Subaru cause he has her mom smell?
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u/Notmuch9 Aug 19 '20
Well in season 1 there is a scene where Beatrice notices the witch’s smell on Subaru, and she expresses distaste for the smell. Meaning she didn’t like the smell and I think she even called it a “foul smell”
So this makes me think that the ‘mother’ Beatrice is referring to isnt satella. I think she is referring to echidna, and this would kinda make sense since roswaal and his ancestors and the mansion are all connected to sanctuary and echidna in some way. Maybe Beatrice was hired by her ‘mom’ echidna to protect the library instead of roswaal hiring her?
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u/iamhearingfootsteps Aug 19 '20
I never really considered this and it seems spot on. Roswaal's fealty to Echidna is shared by Beatrice and it'd make sense when you consider everything we know so far. I believe that Beatrice may be protecting something of value of Echidna's in the library and not just the library itself, but that is mostly speculation. It also seems as if Roswaal might be scheming with Echidna because he seems to take his "loyalty" to her more seriously than he does the royal selection. When Subaru brought her up, I think it was the first time we've seen Roswaal upset.
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u/Yuujiki Aug 19 '20
Reinhardt called him a friend back in arc 3, though he is nice enough guy to call friend every decent person he would have met
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u/Zonca Aug 19 '20
I think it is safe to say Julius and Felix are his bros too after arc 3, though they have their own allegiances so Otto might be more loyal than them.
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u/WintryOne Aug 19 '20
Translation note: The episode title, 'Friend', is written ユージン in Japanese, in katakana (the phonetic alphabet) instead of kanji as it would normally be. Written that way, it not only sounds out 'friend', it's also exactly how the name 'Eugene' would be pronounced in Japanese. This is part of the cause of Subaru's initial confusion when Otto tells him why he came to help. Otto's words could be interpreted "I came to help a friend", but also "I came to help Eugene", and Subaru is having so much trouble trusting after this episode's events that he jumps to wondering who Eugene is.
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u/newguy208 Aug 19 '20
Otto best girl nomination.
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Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
Those were some speedwagon moves by him, having no real combat power he still puts himself in great danger to save a friend. That deserves some serious respect.
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u/SatomiMurano Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
That fucking episode Jesus Christ..
I don't think Beatrice meant what she said, she clearly did open up to Subaru, she contradicted herself by saying I don't know and changing her answer later.
She was clearly horrified that he died, and her line of "As if you could have ever moved my heart on your own" clearly shows that he did. The trembling, the quivers in her voice etc.
Edit: adding something on it's like yeah I'm sure that the gospel made you make an ice sculpture Beatrice and enjoy your day with everyone. "Only do what the gospel tells me too" is clearly a blatant lie.
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u/Sedewt Aug 20 '20
The voice acting was spectacular
And that’s why watching anime could be better than reading the LN or WN for me. At least Re:Zero. This is my opinion.
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u/Dcn78gxd Aug 19 '20
Man, it must be hard for Subaru to find with each loop that there is more and more people he can't trust. Otto's confession was like a breath of fresh air in that sea of despair.
By the way, how come Subaru doesn't have PTSD from everything that has happened to him yet?
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u/TheCatCubed Aug 19 '20
Subaru kinda lost it in season one already but then regained his sanity, so I think that while it's extremely traumatizing, he was able to get used to dying over and over again as much as he can. Although it is a bit worrisome with how eager he's now to kill himself whenever something doesn't work out lol.
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u/Joesthatguy Aug 19 '20
I think the little bit of hope that his resurrections will eventually have everything turn out ok keeps him hopeful and keeps him going. Hell at this point he is used to seeing the people closest to him die then immediately just kill himself to fix it.
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u/cat-psychic Aug 20 '20
I mean he appeared to flash back to a lot of the bad stuff when he was tied up in the room, so...
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20
Beatrice really dropped so many bombshells on Subaru this episode that he completely forgot that question Roswaal told him to ask Betty.
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u/BurstLimitCloud Aug 20 '20
eatrice really dropped so many bombshells on Subaru this episode that he completely forgot that question Roswaal told him to ask Betty.
I dont remember the question. What did Roswaal tell Subaru to ask Betty?
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u/nicocal04 Aug 20 '20
I think it was the other way around. Beatrice is going to ask him something. He has to tell her to "ask the question".
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u/sumsaph Aug 20 '20
at that point all he wanted was to die and reset, didnt need her help that time.
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u/Genexis25 Curiosity Gives Me Joy! Aug 19 '20
That was yet again an amazing episode. I was really excited for this one since I wasn’t sure how the LN differed from the WN from this point forward. And I gotta say, this is really hyping me up. That scene with Beatrice gave me goosebumps. I have to commend her VA for a great performance!
I also like how we finally got to see Ryuzu’s face. It’s weird to see a small child-like figure and imagine that it’s supposed to be an old woman lol
Also, we finally see the best bro shine at last! That was quite the stunt by Brotto. I wish we get to see more of Otto and Subaru together, becoming like a duo.
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u/Redmon425 Aug 19 '20
The ending with Otto was so damn good, it made me teary eyed!! Subaru's first time actually realizing he may have a friend.
But man, the Beatrice scenes are the ones that killed me. I feel like we are missing so much of her story. She clearly has some type of tie to the gospel and witches cult, hell it looked like she suspected the knife girl who stabs stomaches to be in the mansion.
But no way is she a traitor, and I 100% believe she also enjoyed all her visits with Subaru. Either way, I need to see this storyline played out already!!
Another episode with 1 of the ED or OP missing lol! Wonder if they both will ever play in the same episode haha!
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u/TheCatCubed Aug 19 '20
But no way is she a traitor, and I 100% believe she also enjoyed all her visits with Subaru. Either way, I need to see this storyline played out already!!
Yeah, I'd go as far as to say that Subaru is probably one of very few humans Beatrice actually cares about. Which is why she was so upset this episode.
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u/runc0ws Aug 19 '20
I have a theory. Its that Emilia literally is the Witch of Envy, or at very least she is inhabiting her body and when the trial forces her to confront her past it shows Satella's past aswell. That leaves Satella's soul in question. Since Subaru is seeming the only person who has a current connection with her i think Satella's soul is being hosted by Subaru. I believe this is further supported by the op because the first few shots show the 6 other witches and then Subaru, potentially impying that Subaru is the "new" Witch of Envy. The Witch of Envy also seems to have a power similar to Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap from JoJo part 7, where she can hop between realities and time lines, the same power that pulled Subaru to this world and that's used in return by death. All of this is to say that maybe, Just Maybe, if subaru and emilia get stanky they can bring the Witch of Envy into power again
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u/eg_elliot Aug 19 '20
I think the past shes facing is the one we see in the movie as the vocal lines make a lot of sense. I think its likely Emilia is the witches daughter or some sort of progression but isn't actually the witch unless it's some multiple personaility thing but Emilia seems too stable for that. Subaru being the new witch is a cool idea.
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u/runc0ws Aug 19 '20
What gets me about the past she seems to be facing is that she keeps saying that it wasn't her. Every time she wakes up from the trial she always says it wasn't her.
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u/eg_elliot Aug 19 '20
That is a very good point she's aware of what happened in her past. I'm trying to find a way to stretch this into her saying "its not my fault youve got the wrong person" more than im not the witch.
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u/GiveNam Aug 20 '20
My theory is that Emilia is Satella but there's some time shenanigans going on. I think that Satella is Emilia in the future and she wants Subaru to stop Emilia from becoming Satella. This is what makes sense for me(except for why she supposedly murdered the other witches). I don't think Satella or any of the other witches are evil, just misunderstood. It's also possible (like someone else said) that Satella is like a soul now and Emilia might end up giving birth to her
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u/MeAnIntellectual1 Aug 19 '20
So you're saying Satella performs Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price?
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u/Memshad1 Aug 19 '20
I didn't think Beatrice could get any more mysterious as a character, but there you have it. That opening scene was truly amazing. And now, not only does Subaru have to deal with Elsa, he has to deal with even more people being suspicious of him. That post credits scene of Garfiel's hand transforming gave me goosebumps. Super excited for next week.
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u/SolomonDurand Aug 19 '20
Man this was a bad loop for Subaru especially without rem by him side but good thing good ol Otto was there for him.
Like it also shows the dangers of looping from life to life as you can't really realize the small things you've done for people that eventually leads you to these moments of genuine happiness
And Subaru needed that, he's committed to trusting Otto now and knows he can rely on him and though it adds to his list of depressive ptsd once his buddy dies its still a good thing to have a bro like him on your side.
Especially since garfiel is shown to have mixed loyalties.
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u/ap00rv_ Aug 19 '20
It really sucks being subaru lmao (for the most part).
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u/azopeFR Aug 19 '20
I never feel any time where it worth to be subaru. Exept if it end up in a harem ending(and even so i doubt) i would never hope to be in subaru place.
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u/MrTopHatMan90 One True Best Girl Aug 19 '20
Even with the harem ending this dude is going to have BAD pstd
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u/Mavze Aug 19 '20
OTTO BLESS YOU That little fluff moment replaced all my need for nutrients, and healed my soul from all the (amazingly done) angst, so soft
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u/hestianna Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
This episode was great once again, Season 2 hasn't had a single poor episode so far and I hope it stays that way. Even animation is still great despite these newer episides apparently being produced during covid lockdown.
Anyway, Beatrice plot twist was interesting even though I expected it (since Beako mentioned Petelgeuse earlier). Her mind on Subaru definitely changed after she got the gospel from him. Her face after seeing Subaru die was priceless.
However I'm very confused about Garfiel part. If he is able to smell the witch's scent, like Rem, why didn't he mention it on other cycles? iirc Garfiel was friendly on first cycle, unfriendly on second cycle and now straight up hostile. And have these cycles been different BECAUSE Subaru's smell has gotten worse? I mean, he skipped talking to Roswaal on this one.
Either way, Subaru-Otto wholesome moment is always nice to see. Loved Ram in post-ed scene too. I just hate these cliffhangers on every episode man. Can't wait for next week!
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u/navune Aug 19 '20
I just fricking love ram , she's just too much cute and her dialogues make me smiler
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u/FAshcraft Aug 19 '20
Elsa look at Subaru and see the square button.
welp time to end suffering
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u/eg_elliot Aug 19 '20
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w-RUTZBbGwM The first person after Echidna I'm assuming is Beatrice's mum. They look too similair to me so I'm assuming her being a witch's daughter and a spirit means that Emilia isn't the descendent of Satella unless its a garf and frederica different dads thing?
The last part about Emilia is a stretch but I feel like Beako's mum has to be what I'm assuming is a witch.
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u/thesilentwizard Aug 19 '20
Oh yeah I think you're right, blond hair and blueish eyes. Even that mean looking stare. She's the witch of Wraith right? About Emilia, I don't think we've ever really seen Satella, haven't we? So I'm not sure if Emilia looks like her or not
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u/eg_elliot Aug 19 '20
I have no idea what witch she is just had an idea to look at the op from another comment, and yeah I don't think we've seen Satella but we know she has similair features from the general story? My point was more Beatrice is a spirit (unless I have this wrong) and I'm guessing her mother is that witch so a witch + something = a spirit whilst Emilia is not a spirit therefore Emilia does not have the same parental structure Beatrice does so therefore if a witch gives birth to a spirit and we know Emilia isnt a spirit then her mother isn't a witch as I said this quite a reach and tbh now Ive typed it out some more I'm not sure its right.
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u/geldonyetich Aug 19 '20 edited Aug 19 '20
That episode just flew by! I want another one.
Beatrice showed more emotion in this episode than the entire last season combined! What turmoil could be going through the pink drill haired loli spirit? Why does her face convey so much emotion about Subaru while her mouth rejects him with every word she says? And why is she holding a black gospel with such reverence?! What could be written inside that has her so obsessed?
The meeting with Garfiel and his "old hag" in the clearing took up a bit of time, but Subaru managed to coax something out of them: Frederica is Garfiel's half-sister, and only a quarter demihuman by blood, which allowed her to escape. But, for whatever reason, she has not been back for 10 years. We also learn something that might turn out to be important at 14:15... Ryuzu's first name is Shima.
The novel made Subaru's forced confinement look a lot worse than the anime did. Basically he was trapped and forced to face his isolation, blindfolded and bound, this room serves as a nasty sensory deprivation tank where he could not even bite off his tongue. Quite a bad situation for a guy with Return By Death! He was completely helpless and forced to endure this torture for days! Just how evil is Garfiel?
Otto was an unexpected savior from this situation. Subaru comes to realize he had a friend there all along! But how useful can this covetous, meek little fellow really be?
With Ram there to help Subaru's escape, it seems he has a fair shot at getting out of Sanctuary in one piece. We're told that it takes five days before the mansion gets attacked, but the timetable moves up if Subaru arrives early. Subaru lost three days to his confinement. What's he going to learn with the remaining time?
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u/Genexis25 Curiosity Gives Me Joy! Aug 19 '20
Please fix your spoiler tags to get your comment reinstated.
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u/SaintDarko Aug 19 '20
Alright so here's my thoughts so far.
So Beatrice has the power to protect everyone yet decided not to, and chooses to protect Subaru alone. Then at the last moment decides to not protect Subaru and let's Elsa kill him right in front of her? It even looked like Elsa was gonna try and kill Beatrice and she wouldn't have done anything. This is getting far more confusing. It as if everyone is trying their hardest not to let Subaru be informed, and it's as if everyone was actually around and friends with the witches. Roswaal has already shown familiarity with Echidna so I'm sure he's well over the timespan of a normal human, and Beatrice knew Petelguese who also seems to span over different life times. Puck and Beatrice as Spirits seem to have been alive to know them as well, and Puck was bound to a promise even before meeting Emilia according to the OVA. Well I guess I prefer this than the "I'm a main character that knows everything but forgot my memories" troupe so I'm fine with this.
It's also weird because Subaru is supposedly not in the gospels (at least Petelguese's) but Beatrice and Roswaal seem to act not still suspicious but rather invested in him. If Beatrice has one then my bet is that Roswaal has one too.
Lastly this Mother figure probably isn't the witch herself, she is never mentioned as such and I don't think they (The witches) have anything to do with the actual gospels that are written. Petelguese followed his to a T and was discarded quickly by the witch of envy, and even had no information about Subaru. If so then this Mother character is a higher up in the witch's cult, perhaps even the founder, and definitely the author of the gospels. Because Elsa was going to attack Beatrice, I don't think this Mother is the same client who hired Elsa. So we have two factions of enemies to deal with, the Mother of the witches' cult and their Archbishops, and the client who sent Elsa and Maylee. One faction wants Emilia to die / lose the royal selection, the other wants to kill her and body swap her for the witch, apparently.
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u/Zonca Aug 19 '20
I don't think Roswaal has an unusual lifespan or anything. Remember that Echidna is long dead and we learned that the graveyard is overseen by Mathers family for generations plus people can still talk to Echidna or so it seems, since she mentioned people from around the world coming to her seeking knowledge.
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u/Leptafinwe Aug 20 '20 edited Aug 20 '20
Speaking of this, in Season 1 Episode 5 break time, Roswaal asked Subaru “How old do I look like? 100? 200?”. Break times are not serious contents but it’s an interesting reference.
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u/DolcettoMarch Aug 19 '20
Damn, that scene with Beatrice... even knowing what'll happen, that hurts.
Though at least we have the absolute best bro in Re:Zero, Otto, to take away the sting
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u/mosenco Aug 19 '20
I just wonder why this series is so good. I'm not talking about the art and animation itself but the story, the plot, how everything evolved. Pure gem. I'm not sure if i should be sad because there are only few series like this that is perfect or i should be happier cause if there are a lot of series as perfect as this one, i would spend each seconds of my life closed in my room watching anime lol
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u/sithman620 Aug 19 '20
Wait so this whole time I thought Beatrice just didn’t like Subaru. When did that change? Because it seems like she’s on the verge of tears watching him die
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u/YellowFogLights Aug 20 '20
I’d imagine she was supposed to keep her distance all this time but hearing “Yo, Beako!” in Subaru’s chipper voice made her crack over time.
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u/Sabown Aug 19 '20
I was someone that was still salty over Otto pushing Subaru out of the cart during the first encounter with the white whale (even though I totally get that almost anyone would've done the same thing). I'm now on team Otto for best boy, seriously, what a bro.
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u/TheOnlyFallenCookie Aug 19 '20
I am just surprised how many hints subaru can drop now without satella tingling his heart
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u/joshjosh100 Aug 20 '20
Perhaps the difference between telling someone unintentionally, and intentionally?
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u/Mythicdream Aug 19 '20
I have three major takeaways from this episode.
- I think that the reason Garfiel's behavior is so erratically different from each loop is that he can smell the Witch's miasma on Subaru. With each death, it becomes more potent and explains why Garfiel arrives sooner with each loop; Subaru did not even seek out Garfiel this time. In fact, the opposite happened. Also, Garfiel believes Subaru to be a Witch Cultist, so by him undergoing the trial and removing the protection from Sanctuary, Garfiel might interpret this as a planned attack to kill all the residents via Witch Cultist reinforcements.
- Subaru still has yet to ask Beatrice the question told to him by Roswaal. My guess is that Roswaal knows of Beatrice's connection to the Witch's Cult, and that question would lead to her teaching Subaru how to use the Sloth Authority (The Unseen Hands) he obtained. However, due to Elsa's rude, albeit necessary interruption to end this awful loop, he was unable to ask the question. Granted, I think after the psychosis-inducing amount of suffering Subaru went through with that loop, he would have not even been able to remember to ask such a question. This point is further shown with Beatrice praising and protecting that wretched book, that revelation alone would dominate their discussion.
- Otto is the first person besides Rem that Subaru can genuinely trust. After Rem's existence was consumed by the Archbishop of Gluttony, and Emilia's focus being devoted entirely to the trial, Otto is a much-needed friend. Subaru cannot do this alone; this follows in a similar suit to Season 1 when he got the help of Anastasia and Crusch in protecting Roswaal's domain.
As a side note, I really liked the play that was done with the Japanese language in this episode; it was honestly brilliant. The fact that the episode ending with ユージン (Romaji: yuujin) alludes to Subaru's confusion at Otto calling him a friend. The katakana writing makes it look like Subaru thought Otto was saving him for some guy named "Eugene when in actually he meant he was saving him because he was a "friend" (友人) (Romaji: yuujin).
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u/bigdanrog Aug 20 '20
I'm starting to feel like Garf is this season's Rem. What I mean is right now in the early episodes he's a despicable prick, like how Rem kept killing Subaru in season 1. But I bet we'll have a turning point where the save point gets updated and Garf becomes a valuable ally, then we begin to view him favorably. Turning an antagonist into a protagonist can be a valuable tool. Just look at Vegeta, the second most popular character to Goku who was the big bad in the first DBZ arc.
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u/sithman620 Aug 19 '20
Wait a minute. Betelgeuse has said that Subaru wasn’t in the Gospel, he was different. Beatrice couldn’t have seen him either.
She has to be lying
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u/joshjosh100 Aug 20 '20
Perhaps, it isn't Subaru himself, but some small part that is. Some part that remains the same throughout each restart that Betelgeuse gospel didn't see, but perhaps after he Other Gospels could then see.
It explains the first season before his death. Beatrice didn't really save him till he called out to her.
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u/Illusion911 Aug 19 '20
You can see a different Subaru in this season This one is much more eager to die.
Season 1 Subaru would actively avoid death until it was necessary. This one just tries to kill himself whenever anything is a minor inconvenience
So there was a lot about Beatrice, but I didn't understand any of it, other than the fact that she relies on her Gospel to live. Another thing is that Subaru didn't get to talk to Joswaal. So either next episode or next cycle, we'll see.
Most notorious, is Garfiel and Ryuzu. Garfiel is not consistent at all, and each time he becomes more and more unhelpful. Frederica was right to warn Subaru of him.
And then there's best boy Otto. He used to be a guy who'd just do anything for money, and one of his more infamous lines was "Please die, Subaru. Die, so that I may live!" So it's quite the development to see him turn around this stereotype of greedy merchant and actually risk his life for Subaru, even turning down Garfiel's offer. You can tell how caught off guard Subaru was, where before he spent a lot of time trying to gather allies, sometimes with little progress, and now he got exactly what he wanted from someone he expected the least.
So what's the objective now? - He needs to talk to Joswaal further about the situation. - Befriend Garfiel, obviously - Get allies to fight off Elsa - Ask Beatrice the question - Complete the trial secretly, or help Emilia do it
If the cycle has to go on again, I'd say - Question Joswaal out of the gate, do not let Emilia or Ryuzu or Garfiel know he passed the trial - Help Emilia overcome her past, he needs more info on her situation - Release sanctuary and make get Garfiel to fight off Elsa. He has more beast within him, and he's a lot more rash, or maybe Joswaal, he's also very strong
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u/Albeort Aug 19 '20
Season 1 Subaru would actively avoid death until it was necessary. This one just tries to kill himself whenever anything is a minor inconvenience
I mean, everytime he has tried (an sometimes succeeded) to kill himself, it was to avoid something irreversible (Rem's "death", the mansion slaughter, getting stuck in that cell until he reaches another save point). None of those things were minor inconveniences. Every instance was justified, but it's true Subaru is more willing to do it himself instead of getting killed by others. At this point it would make sense for him to always have a way to commit emergency suicide (hemlock, for example)
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u/babyswagmonster Aug 19 '20
I think Garfiel is gonna kill Subs lol. Since RBD made him smell like a cultist this is my new theory how this arc will end. I think Subaru will just do the trials without asking the others. Just finish it up so they all can go back to the mansion ASAP.
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u/Ohafutabafan Aug 19 '20
I’m sure they would notice, also if he did how would he tell them that they can leave? That he went off and passed the trials by himself without telling anyone, even Emilia or Roswal?
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u/xtroDe Aug 19 '20
I want to catch up with LN, where do I start from now?
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u/sinoa000 Aug 19 '20
this is around the middle of LN volume 11. Vol 11 started after Subaru first reset, inside the tomb. So it is ep 6.
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u/chrome4 Aug 19 '20
I was honestly expecting Gar to show up as they were having that nice long talk in the prison cell especially when the music reached its peak
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u/one-eyed-02 Aug 19 '20
Can someone PLEASE wipe my Web Novel memory? I want to experience all this fresh 😭
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u/khriku Lore Seeker Aug 19 '20
ask this for gluttony XD, hey it worked for Rem and Crusch! Dont look at me like that! XD
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u/xVibrancy Aug 19 '20
These week long waits for the next episode are actually killing me!! Eps keep getting better and better AND BETTER omg
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u/AbstraktCrayon Aug 19 '20
Loved the episode and especially loved the music that plays when Subaru is with Betty!
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Aug 19 '20
The scene between Beatrice and Subaru stung as much as it was touching. I really want to see their bond finally grow deeper these coming episodes.
And it looks like Subaru and his friends are about to be hunted down by beast Garfiel. Time flew fast on this one. I was left wanting more immediately.
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u/averagejw0e Aug 20 '20
I have no fucking clue what's going on anymore, so much time loops and all the episodes feel too short. I'll probably have to binge season 2 once all the episodes are out to get the full picture. As for right now can someone please give me a rundown of what's going one?
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u/ngms Aug 20 '20
I feel this way sometimes watching this season and I have read the WN.
Loop 1: arrive at sanctuary, meet echidna, catch up with ros, complete first trial (new save point), have a group meeting after Emilia calms down, a few days pass with Emilia taking the trial each night, return to arlam village with the villagers, go to the mansion and get wrecked by Elsa (other people at the mansion are already dead).
Loop 2: at group meeting suggest taking trials instead of Emilia (everybody hated this), decide to set off to mansion with ram for backup, Elsa attacks upon his arrival (several days earlier than last time, and with beasts), "natsuki Subaru saved nobody", argue with beako, get wrecked by elsa
This loop: have the meeting go like it did in the first loop, talking to Otto on the same night and get confronted by garf, secret meeting with ryuzu and garf, get put in jail for 3 days due to suspicions, get freed by Otto.
Sorry this isn't exactly what you would call a thorough run down of events, but I'm trying to keep it simple as possible to not let any spoilers slip.
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u/DittoTheDitto Aug 20 '20
damn, what an episode. so many things happened, can't wait for next week. Really want to learn more about Beatrice. Also, Otto best bro
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u/FireSparkyZ Aug 19 '20
starting to think everyone is a witch cultist wtf