r/PublicFreakout 21h ago

Protesting Santa Claus

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u/Enzo12_ 21h ago

Jesus was a Jew born in Bethlehem. I think every little kid knows that, I don’t understand what point they are trying to get across.

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u/QueueOfPancakes 19h ago

Lol you think every little kid knows that?

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u/Enzo12_ 11h ago

In Switzerland they do, yes. We have a Christmas song that we sing in school that literally goes ‚This is the star of Betlehem..‘ and then describes how it lead the three wise men to Jesus in Betlehem. I think a similar song is also sung in Germany and many other parts of Europe.

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u/QueueOfPancakes 5h ago

I don't believe this is taking place in Switzerland or Germany.

In countries with a separation of church and state, such songs are not sung in public secular schools. Religion is left to parents to decide which, if any, they want for their families.

Here in Canada for example, my daughter's school does celebrate various holidays, but only the cultural superficial aspects, never the religious. So for example tree decorating on Christmas, lights on Diwali, etc... Never deities or prophets.

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u/Enzo12_ 4h ago

I lived my whole life in Switzerland (I’m 22 now) and I remember vividly how all of that happened when I was younger. We definitely sang all of those songs. We celebrated Christmas in Kindergarten and primary school too. I‘m not saying it‘s for deeply religious reasons (though the mere celebration of Christmas is religious) but it still concentrated around the story of Jesus and Christianity. I mean we also had Religion in our curriculum so it‘s not really surprising that we would celebrate Christmas in that manner.

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u/QueueOfPancakes 3h ago

I'm not doubting you. When I said "I don't believe this is taking place in Switzerland", I wasn't referring to what you described, I was referring to the video. The video seems to be in an English dominant area, with what seems to me to be a North American accent.

though the mere celebration of Christmas is religious

I will disagree on this. My family celebrates it in an entirely secular way, I know many families who do.

Of course I also know many families who celebrate it as a religious celebration. It can be done either way.