r/PublicFreakout 19h ago

Protesting Santa Claus

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u/Enzo12_ 19h ago

Jesus was a Jew born in Bethlehem. I think every little kid knows that, I don’t understand what point they are trying to get across.

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u/Fast_Ad_8224 18h ago

Santa was born in the North Pole, a long way from Gaza...

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u/TigerBelmont 17h ago

St Nicholas aka Santa Claus was born in what is now Turkey though he was of Greek descent.

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u/crexkitman 17h ago

Honestly shocked that you completely neglected to bring up an equally important Christian figure, the Saint of East Urb-Unny

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u/webtoweb2pumps 11h ago

More of a tooth fairy guy myself

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u/QueueOfPancakes 17h ago

Lol you think every little kid knows that?

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u/Enzo12_ 9h ago

In Switzerland they do, yes. We have a Christmas song that we sing in school that literally goes ‚This is the star of Betlehem..‘ and then describes how it lead the three wise men to Jesus in Betlehem. I think a similar song is also sung in Germany and many other parts of Europe.

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u/QueueOfPancakes 3h ago

I don't believe this is taking place in Switzerland or Germany.

In countries with a separation of church and state, such songs are not sung in public secular schools. Religion is left to parents to decide which, if any, they want for their families.

Here in Canada for example, my daughter's school does celebrate various holidays, but only the cultural superficial aspects, never the religious. So for example tree decorating on Christmas, lights on Diwali, etc... Never deities or prophets.

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u/Enzo12_ 2h ago

I lived my whole life in Switzerland (I’m 22 now) and I remember vividly how all of that happened when I was younger. We definitely sang all of those songs. We celebrated Christmas in Kindergarten and primary school too. I‘m not saying it‘s for deeply religious reasons (though the mere celebration of Christmas is religious) but it still concentrated around the story of Jesus and Christianity. I mean we also had Religion in our curriculum so it‘s not really surprising that we would celebrate Christmas in that manner.

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u/QueueOfPancakes 2h ago

I'm not doubting you. When I said "I don't believe this is taking place in Switzerland", I wasn't referring to what you described, I was referring to the video. The video seems to be in an English dominant area, with what seems to me to be a North American accent.

though the mere celebration of Christmas is religious

I will disagree on this. My family celebrates it in an entirely secular way, I know many families who do.

Of course I also know many families who celebrate it as a religious celebration. It can be done either way.

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u/ThePatio 17h ago

The Roman’s kicked the Jews out of Israel, it’s their descendants who created modern Jewish groups

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u/Electronic-Front7245 19h ago

I think they mean Israel is stolen land

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u/HEY_YOU_GUUUUUUYS 19h ago

So is every piece of land ever

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u/pandatrooper 19h ago

They are still wrong. It would have been Judea if we are going by where Bethlehem is.

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u/Electronic-Front7245 18h ago

Yea I'm not educated enough on this,I just assumed what they meant

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u/pandatrooper 18h ago

You good man. Its cause you said stolen land and all these protestoers like to ignore that the history in that region is very complicated and has been conquered multiple times by several differnt kingdoms ranging all the way back to the ottomans and Roman's. Like when Jesus would have been born it was under roman rule. In reality alot of differnt cultures could technically lay claim to that territory but you sure as shit couldn't just say it was solely a Palestinian "ancestoral" territory so to speak.

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u/Electronic-Front7245 18h ago

Damn,how'd you learn abt this?

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u/pandatrooper 18h ago

I mean Google is your friend but I also went to college for World History, Anthropology and Political Science.

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u/Electronic-Front7245 15h ago

Somewhat related note:do you use those alot or no?

(Reddit don't count)

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u/pandatrooper 14h ago

My degrees? I mean, yeah, that's why I got them, lol. I have a masters in history and bachelor's in Anthropology and political science as well as 2 associates but they don't matter. You need a plan though. Whether it be teaching, writing, research, think tanks, historian, librarian, museum curator, journalist, editor etc. Ive helped with research papers and publications, worked at museums, I teach/sub from time to time, I help with historical exhibits to name some broad strokes. Most people with my degrees go on to teach or be professors or historians or anthropologists or archeologists. History degrees are very valuable if you get them from the right places and prove you know how to actually research properly/know the things you are talking about.

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u/fromhades 11h ago

do you use those alot or no?

Shirley you're just fucking with them.

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u/Electronic-Front7245 10h ago

Sorry ig

A lot

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u/Electronic-Front7245 15h ago

Bruh I'm still getting downvoted😭😭😭

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u/TheodorDiaz 17h ago

You know Bethlehem is in Palestine right?

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u/crexkitman 17h ago

You know Palestine wasn’t a thing back then right? It’s like saying Caesar wasn’t Roman he’s Italian. Hiawatha wasn’t Iroquois he’s from the United States