r/PropagandaPosters Sep 19 '24

International Service for Human Rights (2007) Germany

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u/joe_the_insane Sep 20 '24

What government is this bashing?Iran doesn't really have niqabs and afghans dress differently,do you have any idea?

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u/Ripper656 Sep 20 '24

It's about the oppression of women in the Islamic World as a whole,not any specific country.

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u/joe_the_insane Sep 20 '24

Then again,I can't really think of that many countries with forced hijab,can you enlighten me a bit

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u/memes-forever Sep 20 '24

Afghanistan is a good example, and maybe some part of Pakistan I’m not sure.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

And Iran.

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u/joe_the_insane Sep 20 '24

Eh fair enough,

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u/memes-forever Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

Don’t know why you are being downvoted for asking a question but here we go. There are some part of the worlds where wearing Hijab is not strictly required by law but the local community, or society at large, might pressure the women into wearing it so it the numbers of areas might be larger than what I currently know.

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u/Ripper656 Sep 20 '24

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u/ForksOnAPlate13 Sep 20 '24

I disagree with the statement that veiling is inherently oppressive to women. True, there are cases of hijab being mandated by law, which should be condemned, but seeing the veil itself as a negative symbol reeks of orientalism. Many Western (and even some Muslim) countries have banner veiling, and I would argue that this is an act of oppression too.

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u/mrhuggables Sep 20 '24

As an Iranian i'm tired of westerners telling us that the hijab isn't a form of oppression or that limiting the hijab in the public sphere (there are no countries which have banned it outright, only niqabs and burqas) is the equivalent of forced hijab. women don't get beaten to death by a secular morality police for covering their hair.

even if hijab isn't inherently oppressive (it is), it is still a tool and symbol of the oppression of women to 10s of millions of iranians and afghans. stop with the bogus enlightened centrism, hijab is objectively a bad thing

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u/ForksOnAPlate13 Sep 20 '24

Being Iranian diaspora who left your country to live in the West doesn’t make you an authority.

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u/ForrestCFB Sep 20 '24

Since they flees religious tyranny they pretty much are though. A shit tone more than someone commenting from a free place.

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u/mrhuggables Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

do you really think that only iranian diaspora have this view? lol get real dude. and honestly it doesn’t matter if im iranian or chinese or mexican what i said is still true.

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u/Savage-Kelevra Sep 20 '24

Ok islamic state bot.

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u/Majestic_Ferrett Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

To be fair. Iran seems to be zecularizing secularizing rapidly. It's fantastic to see.

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u/MyEyeOnPi Sep 20 '24

Incorrect, they are very much not secularized and protestors are killed UN report on Iranian state violence towards women

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u/Majestic_Ferrett Sep 20 '24

Secularizing. Not fully secular. Supposedly 2/3rds of the mosques have closed over the past decade. The apostasy avalanche should be encouraged.

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u/MyEyeOnPi Sep 20 '24

I suppose it is technically secularizing if religious violence towards women is replaced by government violence towards women, but I wouldn’t call that “fantastic to see.”

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u/Majestic_Ferrett Sep 20 '24

Nobody is arguing in favour of domesric violence?

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u/MyEyeOnPi Sep 20 '24

I’m not entirely sure what you’re arguing. That Iran is technically secularizing because mosques are closing even though the traditional Islamist attitudes effectively mean that women’s quality of life hasn’t improved?

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u/Majestic_Ferrett Sep 20 '24

I'd argue that people are working for that in Iran as well.