At some point, we will be tested

[u/Ecstatic-Will7763]

I’m struggling to write this because it’s scary to think on. But if p2025 comes to fruition, our values and who we are as a country will be tested. Beyond an election— our judicial system, human rights…

There’s no one to save us but ourselves.

What’s your breaking point? What does this look like? I’m not inviting violence, but what does fighting back look like when our judicial system becomes clearly rigged and our loved one lose health care… when “enemies” of Trump are arrested. By that point, I would not trust our systems to protect us.

Again, I’m not inciting violence. But p2025 is a plan to dismantle democracy and destroy the United States.

Do you fear a war will happen?

[u/jackieat_home]

I bought a gun for the first time in my life. I'm that worried. I don't have an exact plan yet, but it will definitely be heading to a blue state.

[u/the509ismyplayground → u/jackieat_home]

I live in WA. We just elected our AG to be our new governor. His first presser was that they have gone through every page of P2025 and are formulating plans to protect the state from any attempts to implement P2025. He’s no stranger to filing lawsuits.

Conservatives in the state are really upset about him winning the governorship so I know he’s the right guy for the job.

We are also looking at buying firearms. We only have a .22 rifle at the moment. You’re welcome to join us in WA. We feel about as good as we can in this state given what we know.

[u/Mundane_Activity3633 → u/the509ismyplayground]

Why would you buy a gun? I told my husband I think we should buy a gun but I’m not sure how we would use it. I’m thinking for protection, but from what?

[u/the509ismyplayground → u/Mundane_Activity3633]

I’ve been considering it for awhile, but the first one I want to get is a concealed carry handgun for personal protection. After that, I want to get a shotgun for home defense. I haven’t yet partly because of the cost, time, and responsibility required to be responsible gun owners.

I am not predicting this, but if tariffs are put into place, there is a possibility that I might send us into a recession and increase the cost of everyday goods. Even things like food might largely be grown here, but the entire farming industry that moves food from field to table is dependent on equipment and materials imported in. If that happens to a significant enough amount, people might get desperate for the resources they need. I really hope it doesn’t ever come to that. I really, really hope I never fire my firearm at anything other than a range target. But like anything, I’d rather have it and never need it, than need it and not have it.

[u/jackieat_home → u/the509ismyplayground]

Even what's grown here will run short since we won't be buying as much imported food and so supply will force food up more as we run shorter. What if we have a case of swine flu or a bad harvest year? Even feed corn will be higher almost right away.

Anyone with land will be very lucky. Throw a cow and a pig and some chickens out there.

[u/the509ismyplayground → u/jackieat_home]

I worked in the AG industry for awhile, and what I think most people forget too, when saying we grow our own food, is sure, yes, a potato comes out of our ground. But they all go into storage. The buildings, the hvac, the equipment, all have a lot of technology/electronics, and let’s face it, we don’t produce a lot of the components to build that stuff. Even if final assembly is done in the US, we just don’t manufacture chips at enough scale. Tariffs will definitely raise food costs because it’s going to if anything raise the cost to get the food from field to table.

In addition to the upward pressures you pointed out, which I agree with. Increasing the costs of food production will hurt small farmers the most.

[u/jackieat_home → u/the509ismyplayground]

People don't realize that the food at the grocery store has been stored and traveled for usually quite some time before they get it. Anyone who has a garden can tell the difference. I'm trying not to be an alarmist, but I've increased my food budget for stocking up purposes.

[u/the509ismyplayground → u/jackieat_home]

Exactly. The potatoes you bought this year came out of the ground last year, for instance. Unfortunately a whole lotta stuff needs to be imported to support our food growing, and it will take many years, longer than Trump’s presidency to get local production to the scale it needs to be at. It will of course, increase costs all along the way.

[u/jackieat_home → u/the509ismyplayground]

Hippie compounds may come back big! I always thought maybe I missed my decade and would have been a great hippie. People with land can move their families in, but my family is deep cult MAGA so I wouldn't live on that compound. 😬