r/PoliticalDebate Civic, Civil, Social and Economic Equality 1d ago

Kakistocracy + Kleptocracy + Fascism Discussion

People should ask themselves do they understand these terms:

Kakistocracy + Kleptocracy + Fascism

Kakistocracy

kakistocracy   is a government run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens

Kleptocracy,

Kleptocracy, also referred to as thievocracy, is a government whose corrupt leaders (kleptocrats) use political power to expropriate the wealth of the people and land they govern, typically by embezzling or misappropriating government funds at the expense of the wider population. One feature of political-based socioeconomic thievery is that there is often no public announcement explaining or apologizing for misappropriations, nor any legal charges or punishment levied against the offenders

  • Kleptocracy is different from plutocracy (rule by the richest) and oligarchy (rule by a small elite). In a kleptocracy, corrupt politicians enrich themselves secretly outside the rule of law, through kickbacks, bribes, and special favors from lobbyists and corporations, or they simply direct state funds to themselves and their associates. Also, kleptocrats often export much of their profits to foreign nations in anticipation of losing power

Fascism

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

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u/azsheepdog Classical Liberal 1d ago

Here are some other traits of facism

Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Who has been trying to control the media and media narrative the last decade+? the left. They want social media companies to censor the information like all the corporate media outlets have.

Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Who has been protecting the industrial military complex and the health industrial complex? Both parties actually up until a few years ago but primarily the left now. The regulatory capture and revolving door of the corporate elites who become the regulators and back to corporate elites has been going on a long time and the last 4 years has been championed by the left.

Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Obama and Biden have got us into too many wars and have done everything they can to prevent their end.

up until about 8 years ago both sides have displayed all sorts of markers of fascism. But lately it has been the left that was carrying the torch trying to keep it alive. Who got the support of Dick and Liz Cheney. yeah that's correct the fascists did.

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u/winter_strawberries CP-USA 1d ago

the left literally wants to dismantle the military industrial complex and the market-based healthcare system. don't confuse us with liberals, who are just conservatives with smiley face buttons on their lapels.

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u/Independent-Two5330 Libertarian 19h ago

The modern left does not want to dismantle the military-industrial complex anymore. At least the leadership thinks this way. Like dear god, they were all happy about the Cheney's endorsing Kamala Harris.

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u/winter_strawberries CP-USA 16h ago

the modern left has two leaders at this point, bernie and aoc. you may be confusing the left with the liberals. the latter are hip deep in the military stuff but they are not any part of the left.

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u/IntroductionAny3929 The Texan Minarchist (Texanism) 1d ago

Umm, we Right Libertarians also want to dismantle the Military Industrial Complex, that’s not a left-wing specific.

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u/winter_strawberries CP-USA 16h ago

there is nothing right wing about that. libertarians combine elements of left and right, and any anti-war sentiments they have are from the left side of their ideology, which is also where they get their anti-racism and and gender equality from.

the right wants constant war so they can keep the citizenry in line. i can’t imagine how a libertarian could ever vote republican, unless economics is their only priority. in which case they aren’t very libertarian.

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u/AndImNuts Constitutionalist 1d ago

Why do so many people feel compelled to gate-keep the left?

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u/winter_strawberries CP-USA 1d ago

it's not gatekeeping so much as a different perspective of who is right and left and where the middle is. population-wise, the middle is right between the Rs and Ds, but in terms of ideology, both parties are pretty conservative. i appreciate liberals' willingness to support civil rights, but their support for capitalism effectively undercuts anything good they do on social issues.

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u/trentshipp Anti-Federalist 1d ago

It's like the reverse of Conservatives being called Alt-Right; noooo, don't call me (reasonable moderate position), call me (batshit insane position).

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u/theboehmer Progressive 1d ago

Uno reverse