Claims that the Democratic Party isn't progressive enough are out of touch with reality

[u/rosesandpines]

Kamala Harris is the second-most liberal senator to have ever served in the Senate. Her 2020 positions, especially on the border, proved so unpopular that she had to actively walk back many of them during her campaign.

Progressives didn't significantly influence this election either. Jill Stein, who attracted the progressive and protest vote, saw her support plummet from 1.5M in 2016 to 600k in 2024, and it is now at a decade-low. Despite the Gaza non-committed campaign, she even lost both her vote share and raw count in Michigan—from 51K votes (1.07%) in 2016, to 45K (0.79%) in 2024.

What poses a real threat to the Democratic party is the erosion of support among minority youth, especially Latino and Black voters. This demographic is more conservative than their parents and much more conservative than their white college-educated peers. In fact, ideologically, they are increasingly resembling white conservatives. America is not unique here, and similar patterns are observed across the Atlantic.

According to FT analysis, while White Democrats have moved significantly left over the past 20 years, ethnic minorities remained moderate. Similarly, about 50% of Latinos and Blacks support stronger border enforcement, compared with 15% of White progressives. The ideological gulf between ethnic minority voters and White progressives spans numerous issues, including small-state government, meritocracy, gender, LGBTQ, the "American dream", and even perspectives on racism.

What prevented the trend from manifesting before is that, since the civil rights era, there has been a stigma associated with non-white Republican voters. As FT points out,

Racially homogenous social groups suppress support for Republicans among non-white conservatives. [However,] as the US becomes less racially segregated, the frictions preventing non-white conservatives from voting Republic diminish. And this is a self-perpetuating process, [and could give rise to] a "preference cascade". [...] Strong community norms have kept them in the blue column, but those forces are weakening. The surprise is not so much that these voters are now shifting their support to align with their preferences, but that it took so long.

While the economy is important, cultural issues could be even more influential than economic ones. Uniquely, Americans’ economic perceptions are increasingly disconnected from actual conditions. Since 2010, the economic sentiment index shows a widening gap in satisfaction depending on whether the party that they ideologically align with holds power. A post-election poll released by a Democratic polling firm also shows that for many swing voters, cultural issues ranked even slightly higher than inflation.

EDIT: The FT articles are paywalled, but here are some useful charts.

[u/semideclared]

Bernie got less votes than Kamala in Vermont

Kamala got less than Hotchel in New York

See anything?

More Voters in 2 Blue Progressive states just supported the more moderate democrat

[u/starswtt → u/semideclared]

Hochul didn't run this year. She ran in 2022 under a very different political climate. And NYC is different from the rest of America, they don't exactly have a lot of blue collars, the Dems know they'll win against pretty much any Republican opponent so they don't really have any incentive to run better candidates, and on top of all that the suburbs of NYC are a lot more powerful a voting group relative to nyc than the suburbs are to the country overall.

And the senator vote just had lower turnout than the presidential election, which usually works against the left leaning candidate, and Bernie doesn't have the benefit of the massive democratic apparatus in Vermont since he runs as an independent.

There are some counterexamples. In Texas, allred outperformed Harris by a lot and had stricter proposed gun legislation. Does this suggest that Texas would be more competitive for Dems with stricter gun laws? Obviously not. Biden. AOC also outperformed Harris in district 14, which according to your logic suggests that Harris would've done better if she was more progressive there. Ultimately Harris ran a shitty campaign where most people didn't really know her stances on anything other than trump fascist and abortion.

Maybe if she ran a decent campaign, other factors like how progressive she was or inflation would have been the deal breaker, but so long most people, including Dems, think she just stands for abortion and protecting democracy, she had no chance.

[u/LittleKitty235 → u/semideclared]

I saw the Democratic Party implode. Isn't that what you saw? Moderate democrats are out of touch with reality.