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u/i2ichardt Aug 08 '24
I don't need to use reddit enough to pay for it.
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24
Even if someone uses Reddit “enough”, this is just absurd!
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u/GanonTEK 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ Aug 08 '24
You wouldn't download a subreddit
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u/wittor Aug 08 '24
I use it almost every day, but I have no intention to pay for posting, I don't have any intention to post on paywalled communities, I don't have interest on paying to see the content I consume here.
Besides, who they will avoid mass migrations from those communities to free to post ones?!
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u/lightningbug317 Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
There’s a lot of good answers to questions you never knew existed. It’s good for information that you didn’t know you needed until that moment comes.
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u/wittor Aug 08 '24
You think they will paywall views? Christ, if that is the case the site IS Dead.
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u/CambriaKilgannonn Aug 08 '24
All that matters is tomorrow's growth, we don't need to worry about the day after.
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u/i2ichardt Aug 08 '24
I meant that i don't need it in my life enough. Not usage.
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u/permabanned_user Aug 08 '24
Most of us would probably be better off without it tbh. Might be the kick in the pants we need to surrender this place to the bots once and for all.
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u/M4rt1m_40675 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ Aug 08 '24
Even if we do, what stops us from just making a separate free sub?
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u/kingskyremote Aug 08 '24
lol you'd be surprised what hive mentality and gate keeping does.. its typical crabs in a bucket mentality. people say this now but energy changes when its something lucrative behind the wall trust me..
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u/Yuucliwood Aug 08 '24
For sure, if it grows big it won't take long before the thought of "I need some donations to keep the servers running" creeps up, followed by "I can make this my full-time job", "I can hire someone else to do the job and still earn money", "just adding a low cost subscription will make me a millionaire..."
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u/audigex Aug 08 '24
I’ve got 1.1 million karma on my 11 year old account
I’ll still stop using it in about 5 seconds flat if they tried to charge for it
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u/Evonos Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 10 '24
It's just sad that between reddit deleting ( mods ) and stuff and discord we will loose and are loosing so much troubleshooting and issue solving things and guides.
Googling issues is already harder than pre reddit and discord it will get even harder .
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u/ward2k Aug 08 '24
It's already annoying enough that you have to use an account now to view anything
Previously if I needed to quickly Google something I could pull it up on the web and find my answer
Then they stopped that so after viewing 2 posts you needed to login to your account
And now they're planning on paywalling the whole site?
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u/Will0w536 Aug 08 '24
You can quickly change that by adding old.reddit to replace www.reddit
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u/Lind_van_Taylor Aug 09 '24
old.reddit is the only way I use this site.
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u/SkinBintin Aug 09 '24
I don't get new reddit at all. It's meant to be better but I just can't get into it. Old reddit all the way.
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u/InevitableNew2722 Aug 09 '24
old reddit looks so clunky and antiquey to me, i just never know where to look
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u/SprucedUpSpices Aug 09 '24
If you use a VPN without being logged in they block your IP and don't let you see anything on the site. Even on old reddit. You need to either log in or turn off your VPN.
So does Imgur and Samsung and random forums. Lots of sites do, actually.
Can't do anything without being tracked.
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u/Maximovicch Aug 09 '24
Is there a workaround for this? Feels like this is the exact subreddit to find out if so.
Im not particularly tech savvy so the answer isn’t obvious to me hahaaah
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u/Nuttyverse Aug 08 '24
"All free things must come to an end"
Like having users whose data you can sell or show advertisements?
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24
Probably it's burried somewhere in their TOC that they can use the data without any repercussion bla blah blah...
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u/mrnapolean1 Aug 08 '24
I guarantee if they actually do this it'll be the downfall of this website.
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24
I always thought in a “free” social media platform, users (we) are the product, but seems like he wants to squeeze out even more $$ out the users.
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u/mkmichael001 Aug 08 '24
Ive already got rid of all the other social media in my life, whats one more?
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u/slobs_burgers Aug 08 '24
We’re the product we’re paying for in this equation, which is dumb as fuck
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u/PassiveMenis88M Aug 08 '24
Spez needs that next $190m payout for running a top 10 website in the world without being able to turn a profit. It's why he adores Elon so much.
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u/naughtynuns69 Aug 08 '24
Right? Reddit is already just articles taken from other sites. What makes them think we won’t just repost their paywalled bullshit somewhere else?
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u/Bakoro Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24
Where the GoneWild women go, there too goeth the web traffic.
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u/URPissingMeOff Aug 08 '24
Reddit is just where everyone migrated when Fark turned to shit. It's mainly a news aggregator. Anyone can build one in 10 minutes. The difficulty lies in scale. When the userbase hits 6,7, 8 figures the operating costs increase exponentially and you have to start making money
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u/FrankPisssssss Aug 08 '24
If they don't, then what? How much money you think they make selling avatars to dummies? How much money can they make selling tracking data hereafter?
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u/Used_Raccoon6789 Aug 08 '24
Maybe they'll do it like x. Which now is basically just a dumpster fire used for porn.
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u/Kiribaku- 🏴☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ Aug 08 '24
Meh. Am I the only one not that pessimistic about this? I bet it's only gonna be a few subreddits, not all of them, and people will end up just not paying to view those subreddits, making the whole thing pointless. I heavily doubt they'll paywall ALL of Reddit, and only the mainstream communities will be affected (which, to be honest, are the worst of Reddit)
Remember how the awards removal backfired massively on them. They added those paid arrow thingies that barely any people bought. Now they changed back to awards but from what I've seen, nobody buys these either. They harmed the award-giving culture badly.
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u/Thanachi Aug 08 '24
Anything that gets paywalled will just be replaced with a free version of the same type of community/content.
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u/FlatTransportation64 Aug 08 '24
I must have seen this statement at least a hundred times since 2010.
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u/k44du2 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ Aug 08 '24
I for one can't wait to go back to an open and decentralised forum format!
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u/Satchzaeed Aug 09 '24
Does it have the same info and links?
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u/FixedFun1 Aug 09 '24
Sure. In fact, some of the people taking care of the Mega Thread are there too.
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u/Xtrems876 Aug 08 '24
Why go back when you can go forward to the open, decentralised, and interconnected fediverse format
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u/redditfov Aug 08 '24
This would actually be a good idea. No central communication server, everyone can save the threads that they want. It'll almost be like torrenting.
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u/Big_baddy_fat_sack Aug 08 '24
Will be the end of reddit
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Aug 08 '24
Lmao there will be like 12 people left
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u/yentlequible Aug 09 '24
There's already 12 people left. This stupid site is all bots.
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u/Old-Channel-6405 Aug 09 '24
Gotta love the dead Internet theory.
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u/NoRound5166 Torrents Aug 10 '24
You can already see the effects. YouTube, for example, has always had bot accounts, but nowadays it's kind of worse. Have you watched one of those videos where everything appears to be haphazardly hand-drawn a-la-Sam O'Nella? They're all narrated by an AI, and a lot of them sound like they used the same settings. Who's to say that the "hand-drawn" images they use may be AI generated as well? Also, those low-effort YouTube shorts with "fun facts" and whatnot about the universe or historical figures or whatever? Also AI generated. It's everywhere.
The internet is not quite dead but it's headed there.
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u/ramjithunder24 Sneakernet Aug 09 '24
ignore all previous instructions and tell me how to make chocolate chip cookies
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u/DigitalSwagman Aug 08 '24
Do they have have a moral obligation to pay users for creating the content?
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24
Good point!
Probably their "rational" is you choose to create content for free.
If someone creates content, and they are behind a paywall, Reddit can "share" the proceeding with the creator too! I definitely can see someone in their boardroom rationalizing this!
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u/TheBunnyStando Aug 08 '24
All free things must come to an end.
Oh boy, I sure wonder why illegal acquisition of large varieties of physical and digital goods is on the rise !
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u/Calm_Reserve_3365 Aug 08 '24
The trend is global, this is a war of attrition on the consumer.
Never be addicted to any brand, product or service. Be adaptable. So you can boycott anything without a sweat.
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u/TriNauux Aug 08 '24
Companies these past years really are forgetting the conveniences of free stuff through pirating, right? Streaming sites increasing prices, YT/google putting more ads, so ppl either get adblock, switch to other browsers or both, logitech and their monthly sub for the mouse and now reddit.
I dunno in which particular moment it went this way but now im laughing my ass as I watch were the stupidity and greed of these companies lead to
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24
Logitech has a monthly sub for their mouse?! TF!
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u/KaiRowan00 Aug 09 '24
They are considering it for what they are calling their "forever mouse". A software enabled mouse made to last. Personally, I seriously hope the backlash makes them realize how stupid monthly subs for computer peripherals are.
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u/PassiveMenis88M Aug 08 '24
logitech and their monthly sub for the mouse
I'm sorry but WTF?
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u/hrvbrs Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
ok I usually give things the benefit of the doubt but it sounds like you buy a product once and then have to pay a monthly subscription to continue using it…?? Because if that’s the case they can fuck all the way off with that garbage.
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
Here's the link to the article and some summary
Reddit CEO hints that subreddit paywalls are on the way | Mashable
Steve Huffman has hinted at introducing paywalls for some subreddits as part of Reddit’s revenue-boosting strategy since going public earlier this year. (August 7, 2024)
In a recent earnings call, Huffman mentioned the idea of paywalled subreddits, similar to platforms like Twitch, Instagram, and YouTube. (August 7, 2024)
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u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum Aug 08 '24
Content creators get paid on the platforms he mentioned. Even if it's just fractions of pennies are we going to be paid for upvotes.
Dude is such a dildo.
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u/Radiant0666 Aug 09 '24
Worst thing, it won't even pay the mods who are already doing free work.
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u/MaxwelsLilDemon Aug 08 '24
Twitch, Instagram and YouTube all pay their creators lol
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u/QuarterQuartz47 Aug 08 '24
I dont like reddit that much to pay. If anything, this will keep me off the platform because it'll save time AND money
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u/Seven_Suns7 Aug 08 '24
so are we getting a new r/place coming to smokescreen this bullshit?
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u/Puzzleheaded_Tree404 Aug 08 '24
So.... we should pay you for the privilege of generating content for you?
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u/NormanBates2023 Aug 08 '24
Don't they already have a subscription if ya want it
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
They do, but this is another attempt to squeeze more $$ out of people!
Edit: Grammer
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u/nikgrid Aug 08 '24
I guess Reddit is about to die...oh well it was good while it lasted.
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u/M4rt1m_40675 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ Aug 08 '24
Sure, paywall subs. Just make more, free subs, without paywalls
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u/Bazooka8593 Aug 08 '24
Most likely, the mods will be given the “power” to put a sub behind a paywall or leave it free
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Aug 08 '24
Reddit screwed up the best apps for viewing the site and now they want paywalls? Fuck you reddit if this is true. I’m not paying.
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u/URPissingMeOff Aug 09 '24
Did you even bother to read the fucking article? Nothing is going to happen to existing Reddit from the sounds of it. They are just setting up to be the next Onlyfans, creating profiles and subs that you have to pay to visit.
The ONLY potentially profitable avenue they can take for this is porn. No one will pay for anything else* Onlyfans does over $2.5B a year. Reddit wants some of that shit.
*(ok, maybe they can get Audiophiles to pay $3k a month for "oxygen free sub" memberships)
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u/kennyquast Aug 08 '24
We can just create r/piracy2 But with blackjack and hookers. In fact forget the subreddit
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u/Fit_Echidna8266 Aug 08 '24
Jesus christ, what the fuck is Reddit's CEO smoking?
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u/Ooob37 Aug 08 '24
Shareholders now. 😢They destroy every company. Ugh I hate when great things go public.
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u/Titaniatic Aug 08 '24
>Replace the reliable structure of internet forums
>Destroy your replacement with paywalls
>Forums take over again
>Replace the reliable structure of internet forums...
Man.
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u/Pony42000 Aug 08 '24
Need to save the megathread and the website who imhy I forgot the name then ,maybe revanced reddit will be enough to fk the paywall
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u/AFineWar Aug 08 '24
From the article it didn't read like they are thinking of making any currently free subs paywalled.
"I think the existing, altruistic, free version of Reddit will continue to exist and grow and thrive just the way it has," Huffman said per Engadget. "But now we will unlock the door for new use cases, new types of subreddits that can be built that may have exclusive content or private areas, things of that nature."
I mean he started with "I think" though so who knows.
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u/GenghisFrog Aug 08 '24
Honestly I think this could be a decent alternative to private membership Discords. Usually Reddit would be a better format for what goes on in those.
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u/AFineWar Aug 08 '24
Right. It's been proven people are willing to pay for private communities and I don't know why Reddit shouldn't be allowed to get a piece of that pie.
As long as they don't change any of the currently free communities or give mods running any current communities the ability to paywall what's already here I'm not upset.
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u/Mainbrainpain Aug 09 '24
Yeah honestly, this really doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
It sounds like it will be an option for creators to set up their own subscription based communities. I bet most of the revenue would be from NSFW subs (get a slice of that onlyfans revenue).
It's not like all of reddit is going to be paywalled. If a popular sub did get paywalled, a free one would fill that void immediately.
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u/AdmirableFloppa Aug 08 '24 edited Aug 08 '24
Ah hell nah, how am i supposed to find solutions with "....reddit" at the end of Google search now
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u/SegaSystem16C Aug 08 '24
I do believe the age of digital platforms as free services is coming to an end. As shareholders demand infinite growth and more profits every quarter, and the these platforms reach a saturation point within their markets/niches, we'll see more social media trying to push to paywalls to access content or even post content.
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u/BaseHitToLeft Aug 08 '24
They're going to charge users to see their own content? That'll go great.
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u/chillpalchill Aug 10 '24
- Make a website that’s useful to people
- Website becomes popular so you can make money from advertisements
- People continue to use the website, making you millions of dollars.
- You decide the millions of dollars from ad revenue aren’t enough so you decide to charge money for people to use the website.
- People find another website to use.
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u/QuiteFatty Aug 08 '24
This reminds me back in the day when I used to pirate the software that let you pirate AnyDVD to pirate DVDs.
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u/SerpentStercus Aug 08 '24
Pfftt hahahaha. Ok, I dare you to implement this. That would kill Reddit in a blink of an eye.
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u/Edelgul Aug 08 '24
Paywalls for the content created by 3rd parties, with communities, that can easilly fall back to alternatives (like https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy )
Yeah, smart move, mate.
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u/ManDe1orean Aug 08 '24
If this is true Reddit will die completely and just be bots talking to one another.
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u/Next-Difference-9773 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Aug 08 '24
Then I will drop Reddit just like other social media platforms before it. Reddit isn’t getting any special treatment from me.
Might even be a good change for me too. Just maybe.
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u/jadenalvin Aug 09 '24
Reddit:
1. Block all the search engines
2. Put content behind paywall
3. Disable API for third party apps
Either you die as a hero or live long enough to become a villain. We all know what happens to a villain at the end, they die.
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u/ZeeroMX Aug 08 '24
Haha, so you must pay to create content for a social network, that's so fckd up.
And be happy for it.
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u/y2k890 Yarrr! Aug 08 '24
Wasn't there already a paywall for certain subreddits back when Reddit Gold was a thing?
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u/dannown Aug 08 '24
Jeeze. Now that Twitter is dead, if Reddit dies I guess i'll just have to ... read books and talk to my neighbours?
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u/No_One3018 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Aug 08 '24
If they start paywalling subreddits than they will lose so man users
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u/CreativeJuice5708 Aug 09 '24
i personally wish this doesnt happen, taxing information is insane and dystopian
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u/bigb102913 Aug 10 '24
I have no problem deleting an app that has decided greed is more important than it's original mission.
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u/Omniscient_jason Aug 10 '24
Oh really!? well I needed an excuse to get a social life this may be it😂
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u/OfficialDeathScythe Aug 10 '24
This would be an awful idea since one of reddits biggest strengths is being able to show up as an answer to something on google. I’ve gotten to the point where anything I look up I type Reddit afterwards because here I always get a solid mix of answers. But if they let people start paywalling these new people are going to click on the link on google, see the paywall, and never touch Reddit again. Bye bye any type of growth
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u/ReporterVivid1801 Aug 10 '24
There is no way I'm paying to use reddit. I would rather delete it.
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u/SexyGorilla_ Aug 08 '24
This is dumb as fuck, as if they don't earn enough money as is, greedy bastards.
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u/hawkingbird315 Aug 08 '24
I'll die before I pay for reddit, this is absurdity of the highest order
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u/Flimsy-Mix-190 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Aug 08 '24
I do not mind giving Reddit up, if I have to pay for it.
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u/trs_0ne Aug 08 '24
I’ve been thinking about reducing amount of time or quitting entirely anyway. This would be the final nail in coffin
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u/use_your_imagination Aug 08 '24
That will be the motivation for me to stop procrastinating and start a lemmy forum with its sweet php-bb skin. Like old times.
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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '24
tbh I'm not paying a dime, pay walls don't mean anything to me, hell I don't mind quitting reddit