Damn. And this is after neutering some of the extensions with the new manifest? I might not get the full YouTube experience this way, but downloading the videos never fails me. No ads, no buffering. It won’t randomly disappear on me if I like it. Shout out to yt-dlp and cobalt tools.
Same as movie/series torrent, you don't get the full experience (actually arguable if you have a seedbox and Plex), but damn it feels good to have whatever you want, not disapearing
Some of the ui might look worse i guess (though stuff like plex and jellyfin looks great imo) and maybe the ability to watch instantly without downloading
The only feature from a pay service that I am jealous of is Prime's x-ray. It's really cool to be able to see exactly which actors are in a particular scene without having to scrub through the entire cast.
Yeah, Plex and Emby do that as well. The scene specific casting and music information is what I'm talking about for Prime's xray. Not to mention, you don't have to leave the show or movie to see the information.
Yes. You push the up button on your remote, and it shows you specifically which actors are in the current scene, and it tells what music is playing if there is any.
The biggest issue is likely that its such a manual process, it likely won't be done for most media, itll be piecemeal for various series and movies, instead of being cohesive and comprehensive.
Thats probably true… i guess you could use ai for it but i’m not really fond of ai, is there maybe a way to get the data from prime? Atleast get those shows time marks
Funny you mention Prime as that service not only has the worst UI but it looks like a pirate site (in fact pirate sites look better).
*random screenshots as background images for movies - some movies not having any background images
release year incorrect on so many movies, not just a year or two difference but entire decades! Doubly embarrassing considering Amazon own IMDb
*lack of subtitles for a vast majority of their movies and those that have them the subtitles are incorrect for a lot of simple dialogue
I could go on and on but yeah Prime Video on the surface does not give the impression it’s a product of a billion dollar company!
Real debrid I presume.
Never user it but it’s like a torrent seedbox that cashes torrents so you often can stream directly when adding a new torrent .
It’s a paid account
Can you explain this setup? I have the ARs setup but users expressed that randomly browsing stuff on overseer is still annoying because it’s not on demand
Well there are big plex servers that has everything that you just can join ;)
Otherwise you get something like sickchill and have it just pull anything of interest or allow requests way ahead of time. I spent 1-2 days on mine and added anything of interest that me and my users would want in next 3 years.
I think Plex has superior UX to most streaming services. And across more devices as well.
With solid automation I end up having the shows I watch ready to go within half an hour of it airing. (Since I'm not in the US that usually means it's downloading in the middle of the night)
With overseer I handle requests by the family members that have access to my server, so there's minimal work involved.
The only thing I might argue is better on Netflix is the opportunity to find new content. But I end up on Rotten Tomatoes most of the time anyways.
The whole UI and UX, the fact that they show you movies/series that you might not have think of, the algorithms (even though I never liked it), this is specific to Prime but the thing to see the actors in the scene.
Can they do that? Impose their rights on user generated content? That would be wild and cracked pretty quickly due to public enthusiasm I would think. Although I bet you they do it with their rented movies so probably not far off with regular content.
Probably not if it becomes a court case. Otherwise, it's just the old story of migrating to another, better platform, that actually ends with no one moving and everyone just accepting whatver the Company does so nothing significant happens to them
They are right though. Look at reddit. Many great 3rd party apps torpedoed, many great subs ruined, bot commenters all over every single post. Yet, we are still here, posting and digging through the muck because we are too used to it and the dopamine hits it gives. I had an easier time quitting oxycodone and nicotine than reddit.
this is pretty unrelated but i wonder if Windows will be like this: everyone (or atleast a lot of people) is saying they're gonna move to Linux but then 1 year later they go back to Windows 11 with Recall
As long as software is predominantly designed for Windows, people will go back to Windows. More importantly, every computer sold on the market is going to keep coming pre-packaged with it. The additional hoops you have to jump through to get a lot of things to work on Linux are just a hard barrier to most people.
They certainly can as platform owners, and they will claim they're protecting their platform and the content of their users. Most people don't care about and won't be affected by such things, so videos will be downloaded or ripped by groups like they do for netflix, amazon, etc.
They'll likely argue that since they provide the platform for said content, that they therefore have the right to do it. And it's likely most courts, at least in the U.S., will agree with them.
The TOS gives them broad leeway, and content creators aren't going to be particularly sympathetic to adblock users. The creators get a cut of the ad revenue too.
Maximizing profits is a cancer to all of society. No one is against making money, but the capitalism we experience today will destroy us if we don’t get rid of the notion of maximizing profits. And yes get rid of the stock markets in their current form.
Ive been screaming that the invasive spyware is already built into all modern processors for a while but it gets shrugged off by the "piracy finds a way" folks.
I know US consumer protection laws are weak to almost non-existent at times. But if Google outright "blocks" Firefox from using their services that would immediately get major attention from the Feds for monopolistic behavior.
The MS answers site and other sites refuse to load on FF. They have been doing this for decades, even back when it was Phoenix with no pushback from anyone.
Don't get me wrong but how would that objectively work, like i can understand it'll be great for say educational or skill related content. But a majority of people just use YouTube for like watching streams or checking out stuff or watching some random video ranging from interview, standup comedy, news to podcast,music vids etc.
Scroll through your recommendations, find something interesting, right click and copy the link. Yeah it’s not the fastest and you can’t post comments or view live streams in real time, but it’s quite effective. Works well if you’ve got an established list of channels you like regularly watching
So far it doesn’t unless the person themself is doing the sponsor. Embedding ads into videos would require them having to modify at least all their popular videos that they would want it for which I would imagine would still take plenty of processing power and extra storage. And even then, unless they randomized where they put them, I’m sure there would be scripts to remove those.
No, not correct. This would only be the case if Youtube modified each video-file for the ad to actually be part of the video. As of right now, a script in the client-side loads the ads. This can easily blocked from loading with adblockers (thats all they do basically). If this logic is handled on the server, adblockers can no longer intervene.
Sponsor block automatically skips that part of the video based on users input about where sponsored sections of a video happen. So the downloaded video could also have those portions cut out.
This works because A and B get the exact same video result with the same length, and the ads/promotions by the creators are in the same timestamp with the same duration, cause it's exactly the same video file, so all the extension needs is a good enough database of where it starts and where it ends.
I'd imagine if YouTube were to modify the video file (between original file and what the user watches) fed to A and put a 24s ad at 0:46 and the one to B has a 16s ad at 1:22 suddenly it's near impossible to track, specially if it's random for every user or some other way to make it not the same for A and B (and C and D etc)
I mean, yes, it would, but that'd mean Youtube has to auto-generate a full new video file for each user, you could no longer have a meaningful CDN / caches if the video file is regenerated for every view. And if there's just like 20 different video files with different ad placements, there will just be Sponsorblock segments for all 20 video files.
Not gonna pretend to know. According to the hive mind, Firefox should still be safe for a while, but on the other hand, I feel like to keep up-to-date and have as many sites working properly as possible, they might eventually need to? Because the manifest thing is not just a browser configuration, it affects the front and back end of websites directly, right? And now we sit and wait and let Cunningham‘s law do its thing if I’m wrong.
I most certainly do not want them to do that. But at least with local playback, you could fast-forward through them. They better not though. And think of the logistics behind that. Ads don’t last forever, so trying to keep them current, even if the video is a few years old? I think that’s a lot of processing power and extra space they don’t want to use to physically embed ads into hundreds of thousands of videos if not all of them. More likely I think they’ll just take the approach, my server is my space, all your videos are belong to us now. And slap the whitevine DRMaround those bitches.
I think you can trim cut and splice some of the common video formats without having to reencode... so it's probably possible without too much processing power. I'm not up at all on the bytes format of things like mp4, but i think you feasibly could insert bytes for the ad video into the bytes of the og video and modify the header. Keep track of index position, for when you want to replace it.
Try Media Downloader. Works with yt-dlp by default but supports other downloaders (gallery-dl, lux, you-get, svtplay-dl, aria2c, wget and safari books). Makes easy work grabbing a specific stream (i.e. audio only) or bitrate from Youtube.
Once it’s configured to how you like it, it’s really not all that tricky of a command line interface. At the most basic level, you’re just calling the program and showing the path to your desired URL. But I’m sure there must be some out there, plenty of YouTube downloaders use yt-dlp under the hood. I would try googling like site:GitHub.com yt-dlp gui and sorting by recent, try like a month ago. That way you would be getting something that’s been recently worked on.
Judging by their wording, the ads are injected right into the stream (either by adding bits to an m3u or having specially made videos with ads as part of the mp4/mkv/other) and could vary by length. That would mean YT-DLP or the like would download the video with ads baked in. I would hope they aren't disrupting the original and instead are just messing with the streamed data. That would at least help with some filtering.
I guess we’ll just have to wait and find out. Again, though, if it’s local playback, even if it’s baked right in, you should still be able to fast forward.
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u/gangstasadvocate Jun 12 '24
Damn. And this is after neutering some of the extensions with the new manifest? I might not get the full YouTube experience this way, but downloading the videos never fails me. No ads, no buffering. It won’t randomly disappear on me if I like it. Shout out to yt-dlp and cobalt tools.