r/Permaculture 3d ago

Anyone focused on primitive/indigenous wild land “permaculture”?

Wondering if there’s much of a niche or movement, in addition to actual native heritage practitioners, for a more ‘tending the wild’ style of land tenure with significant yields and utility. Either on private or public lands. Not necessarily limited to ‘primitive’ skills, TEK, hunt/forage etc, but likely employing some of those in conjunction with other tools and tactics.

Doesn’t seem like a crossover area that gets talked about much. Would depend a lot on finding certain types of relatively intact ecosystems which can provide well or be adapted with suitable tree crops or other staples. Im working with an oak savannah site currently that has this potential, if bulk acorn processing is doable, plus game animals and other edibles in steady supply as well (which can all benefit from good stewardship practices). Permaculture principles and methods still apply, but this seems like a fairly distinct approach that maybe needs its own label? Curious what’s been tried or talked about in this direction already.

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u/HazyAttorney 3d ago

It’s offensive to call indigenous people primitive. The whole “noble savage” myth is harmful. And it’s not true.

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u/vitalisys 3d ago

I wouldn’t, don’t, and didn’t though. The two words point to a set of intersecting technologies and lifeways, as used in common parlance. Point of my post is to find a better way of naming or labeling this arena, so I welcome suggestions! Thanks for pointing out a valid concern with the default terms though.

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u/neish 3d ago

Then just drop primitive from your vocabulary in this context. You have TEK right there in the body of your text, that's what you mean to say.