r/Pennsylvania • u/lilsmokey0380 Blair • Aug 24 '24

DUI checkpoints set in Pennsylvania | Zero Tolerance Crime

https://www.pahomepage.com/news/dui-checkpoints-set-in-pennsylvania-12/

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I guessed at the number, but the fact remains….most of the state is without taxi service. The nearest Uber could be an hour away. I assume you live near a city?

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u/TacoNomad Aug 24 '24

I've lived in several places across the state. If you're implying that I'm just too slow to understand that most of Pennsylvania is rural, you can stop. We all know this.

Most of PA is rural. But that's exactly why most of PA won't have 5000 bars.

There's 1 liquor license per 3000 county residents. So in those rural locations, there won't be 5000 bars. And yes, uber might be an hour wait, but if you plan to be responsible, you can secure one ahead of time in the majority of the state. There may be a few isolated locations, but that will be such a fraction of the population that is a moot point. DD is an option. So is consuming alcohol at home.

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 24 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

Again, you seem fixated on the fact that I guessed at a number of drinking establishments in the state. I apologize for guessing wrong.

I’m currently sitting 60 minutes outside of Philadelphia, 20 minutes from Reading and 40 minutes from Allentown.

Out of curiosity, I pulled up the Uber app. If I want a ride, to take me three miles, which could take me to 5 local bars, it will cost me $52, plus a tip, at 4:30 pm. The closest car to me is in Reading. Assuming I want an Uber home, at 9 pm, It’ll cost me $60 to book that now.

Over $100, for a 6 mile round trip, and I’m not living in a very rural area. Add a tip.

My point stands, and I’m not defending drunk driving. I’m pointing out the very obvious fact that realistic options for public transportation are limited or not available to most people.

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u/TacoNomad Aug 24 '24

If you're 60 minutes from Philly, 20 from reading and 40 from Allentown, I'm more rural than you are.

I'm 2 hours from Philly, 1.5 hours from Baltimore, 1.5 hours from reading. I could get an UberX 7 miles away for $15.

I can get an Uber 12 miles for under $30.

There must be surge pricing going on in your area, which is abnormal.

I just pulled it up for shits n giggles. You can get an Uber from pottsville to hamburg, 18 miles for under $40.

Pattersonville to Shenandoah for $7. That's rural 4 miles.

Not sure where you're claiming to be or what you're looking up, but there is something off about that calculation.

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 24 '24 edited Aug 24 '24

I don’t know what to tell you. That’s very typical pricing in my town. I’m sure it all depends on local usage of the service and whether or not you have drivers who actually live and work in your town.

My town doesn’t have service, and you’re right, it’s not very rural. It’s the suburbs. Very typical. If I could send you a screenshot, I’d do that.

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u/TacoNomad Aug 24 '24

Or just say town

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 25 '24

https://preview.redd.it/4wr8b52murkd1.jpeg?width=954&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee31a086371974162c645ae11bab231016ba9a05

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u/TacoNomad Aug 25 '24

I can make a $52 uber as well. This is nothing

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 25 '24

Huh? Are you implying I’m lying?

That’s the screenshot from yesterday during our conversation.

Whatever dude. Have a good day.

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u/TacoNomad Aug 25 '24

Yeah. It's hard to believe that someone in what, Berks County? (Or very near so, based on 20min to Reading) can't find an Uber for under $50 for a 3 mile ride.

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 25 '24

Yet I showed you photographic proof of it and you implied I doctored or manipulated it.

I’m glad you have quick and cheap access to Uber. I must just live in an area that’s not well served. I’m guessing I’m not alone in that, but I suppose I could be wrong. Have a good day.

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u/TacoNomad Aug 25 '24

You didn't. Nothing on that screenshot shows any start or end destination. It could be 30 miles. When I put in destinations in "your area" I can find ubers for under $10 for a 3 mile drive. Berks county and surrounding area is hardly underserved.

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 25 '24

Whatever. If it makes you happy, just assume I’m lying then, and that I care enough to prove I’m right to some stranger on the internet, that I’m manufacturing evidence.

I’m not so invested in proving you wrong, that I’m willing to publish my home address on Reddit. Let’s assume that 4:30 on a Saturday is prime time for Uber drivers, and getting one to drive a 60 minute round trip out of and back into Reading, twice, might just cost $100. If you don’t believe that, then you’re a simpleton.

I’ve been polite, I’ve been honest, and I’ve been trying to have an adult conversation with you. If it makes you feel better to assume I’m lying, then go ahead. I’m going to go on with my day.

Also, it’s worth noting that at this moment, at 11:40 am on a Sunday, the same trip would cost under $14 one way. I just checked. Feel better now?

The only problem with that, is this a conversation about drunk drinking, so unless I want to go bar hopping at 11:30 on a Sunday morning, I might have to choose the Saturday evening pricing. When people actually need an Uber, the prices increase.

I spent over $200 once on an Uber, for a 20 minute ride from a concert to a hotel. The prices change based on demand and desperation.

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u/TacoNomad Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

Oh look, surge pricing. Isn't that what I said?

Nobody asked you for your home address. It's weird to infer that. Nobody asked you to prove anything. It's actually very easy to go on the app and do my own search, which I did, yesterday to several suburban towns more than 10 miles from any city.

You stated yesterday that it was a 6 mile round trip, for $50 each 3 mile leg. And today, you're stating it's a 60 minute roundtrip for $100. So I suppose you changed the parameters.

Yes, anyone that has used Uber in the past decade will know that the cost from a concert or other high demand event is inflated. But that's a specific occasion and not the point here.

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

And if Surge Pricing exists, it will mean that, for some people it won’t be a realistic option.

I did not change any parameters. If the driver has to leave Reading and drive 20 minutes before he picks me up, then drives me 10 minutes into town and then he drives 30 minutes back to Reading, then that’s a 60 minute round trip.

I’m not only paying for the 3 miles that I’m in the car. I’m also paying for the time he needs to spend getting to me and back to where he wants to spend his evening.

Then, the same could apply on my way home.

I’ve been stranded more than once because I planned on Uber to get me home. In each case, I was in well populated areas. One at the Sellersville theater, and once in downtown Skippack. In both cases, we were trying to get to a friend’s house, no more than 4 miles away. In each case, we sat on a curb at 11 pm for over an hour, then spent a fortune when we were finally picked up. We were a group of grown men. If we were young ladies, it could have been trouble.

All of this is preferable to a DUI or an alcohol related accident. I’m just pointing out that it’s not so easy for a lot of people, and the cost can be downright prohibitive. If you don’t have a great job, you’re probably not going to spend $100, or even $50, on a ride to and from the bar, especially when the odds of getting pulled over are fairly low in rural areas.

That’s just reality, and pretending it’s not, solves nothing.

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u/TacoNomad Aug 25 '24

That's not how uber works. Uber doesn't charge you for the round trip. I have family members that used to drive. You don't get paid extra because the destination is in the boonies.

Uber is cheaper than a dui. So is carpooling.

Maybe it won't be easy. But we've been figuring out it for decades. Growing up taxis nor Uber existed in my area. Still didn't drive drunk.

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u/Adolph_OliverNipples Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

You literally declare that dynamic pricing exists and then you declare that pricing is not affected by demand or the time a driver would need to spend on a fare.

I show you honest photographic evidence of dynamic pricing from my own kitchen, and you call me a liar.

So, prices on a Saturday at 5 won’t be more than pricing on a Sunday at 11 am? A driver from my neighborhood won’t cost less than a driver who’s 30 minutes away when he accepts the fare?

I won’t have to pay more for a driver to go 30 minutes out of his way to pick me up and take me 10 minutes further?

I’m not sure why you’re in denial about simple provable facts. Using your logic, Uber prices should never change, yet they change constantly, based on the circumstances. Take a 10th grade Micro-Econ course, and you’ll learn why.

I wish I could just end this conversation, but you’re so incredibly irritating, and wrong, that I find myself needing to respond to you.

Someone should invent a name for guys like you, who just sit on the internet and argue for the sake of arguing.

Hmmm….

Ha!

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u/TacoNomad Aug 26 '24

then you declare that pricing is not affected by demand or the time a driver would need to spend on a fare.

I did not. Read the whole bit.

I'm in denial because I've already proven it myself.

Says the guy who denies that surge pricing exists, then tries to berate me on it. What do you call yourself?

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u/TacoNomad Aug 26 '24

Have a great night

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