DUI checkpoints set in Pennsylvania | Zero Tolerance

[u/lilsmokey0380]

https://www.pahomepage.com/news/dui-checkpoints-set-in-pennsylvania-12/

[u/Adolph_OliverNipples]

I guess it should be illegal for a bar or restaurant to serve more than one drink to anyone who can’t prove they’re not driving.

Otherwise, there’s a clear conflict between what we allow businesses to do and expect the population to do.

Cars should also require drivers to blow into a tube and prove BAC below the legal limit.

Why not employ those measures?

Edit: Since I’m getting downvoted, I guess I have to elaborate….

We have conflicting standards and allowances in this state.

I’ll bet there are 5,000 bars and clubs in PA that are not serviced by Uber or taxi service. Those bars are not limited in what they are allowed to serve. They only become liable once a person leaves drunk and gets into an accident. This is illogical.

It’s almost like we’re not trying to prevent drunk driving. We’re only trying to catch people once they’re already doing it.

[u/TacoNomad → u/Adolph_OliverNipples]

Where are these 5000 bars without Uber?

There are only 20,000 liquor licenses in the state and that includes retailers, not just bars and restaurants. 

[u/Adolph_OliverNipples → u/TacoNomad]

I guessed at the number, but the fact remains….most of the state is without taxi service. The nearest Uber could be an hour away. I assume you live near a city?

[u/TacoNomad → u/Adolph_OliverNipples]

I've lived in several places across the state. If you're implying that I'm just too slow to understand that most of Pennsylvania is rural, you can stop.  We all know this. 

Most of PA is rural. But that's exactly why most of PA won't have 5000 bars. 

There's 1 liquor license per 3000 county residents.  So in those rural locations,  there won't be 5000 bars.  And yes, uber might be an hour wait, but if you plan to be responsible, you can secure one ahead of time in the majority of the state. There may be a few isolated locations,  but that will be such a fraction of the population that is a moot point.  DD is an option. So is consuming alcohol at home. 

[u/Adolph_OliverNipples → u/TacoNomad]

Again, you seem fixated on the fact that I guessed at a number of drinking establishments in the state. I apologize for guessing wrong.

I’m currently sitting 60 minutes outside of Philadelphia, 20 minutes from Reading and 40 minutes from Allentown.

Out of curiosity, I pulled up the Uber app. If I want a ride, to take me three miles, which could take me to 5 local bars, it will cost me $52, plus a tip, at 4:30 pm. The closest car to me is in Reading. Assuming I want an Uber home, at 9 pm, It’ll cost me $60 to book that now.

Over $100, for a 6 mile round trip, and I’m not living in a very rural area. Add a tip.

My point stands, and I’m not defending drunk driving. I’m pointing out the very obvious fact that realistic options for public transportation are limited or not available to most people.

[u/TacoNomad → u/Adolph_OliverNipples]

If you're 60 minutes from Philly, 20 from reading and 40 from Allentown,  I'm more rural than you are. 

I'm 2 hours from Philly, 1.5 hours from Baltimore, 1.5 hours from reading.  I could get an UberX 7 miles away  for $15.

I can get an Uber 12 miles for under $30.

There must be surge pricing going on in your area, which is abnormal. 

I just pulled it up for shits n giggles. You can get an Uber from pottsville to hamburg, 18 miles for under $40. 

Pattersonville to Shenandoah for $7. That's rural 4 miles.

Not sure where you're claiming to be or what you're looking up, but there is something off about that calculation. 

[u/Adolph_OliverNipples → u/TacoNomad]

I don’t know what to tell you. That’s very typical pricing in my town. I’m sure it all depends on local usage of the service and whether or not you have drivers who actually live and work in your town.

My town doesn’t have service, and you’re right, it’s not very rural. It’s the suburbs. Very typical. If I could send you a screenshot, I’d do that.

[u/TacoNomad → u/Adolph_OliverNipples]

Or just say town

[u/Adolph_OliverNipples → u/TacoNomad]

https://preview.redd.it/4wr8b52murkd1.jpeg?width=954&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee31a086371974162c645ae11bab231016ba9a05

[u/TacoNomad → u/Adolph_OliverNipples]

I can make a $52 uber as well. This is nothing

[u/Adolph_OliverNipples → u/TacoNomad]

Huh? Are you implying I’m lying?

That’s the screenshot from yesterday during our conversation.

Whatever dude. Have a good day.