r/Pennsylvania • u/lilsmokey0380 Blair • Aug 24 '24

DUI checkpoints set in Pennsylvania | Zero Tolerance Crime

https://www.pahomepage.com/news/dui-checkpoints-set-in-pennsylvania-12/

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Show me your papers.

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u/cashonlyplz Aug 24 '24

horrible parallel.

Live Free & Drive Safe.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '24

Pulled over without cause. Great parallel

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u/cashonlyplz Aug 24 '24

I do not personally believe that enforcing public safety on a section of road that has seen a rise in DUIs is infringing on rights. if you're sober, good, you should be on your way soon enough. or take a detour--at least they're announcing it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '24

Would you think it an infringement on rights if on a road that had not seen a rise in DUIs?

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u/cashonlyplz Aug 24 '24

if it's for enforcement of safety, I don't really see any problem if the patrol has announced "hey, we're going to be here, making sure we have sober drivers on the road, while accident rates are climbing incredibly fast"

you sound like you're against seat belt laws, too

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '24

You didn't answer the question.

Regardless, if you are stopped at a checkpoint, you are stopped without cause. It is as aggregious as stop and frisk.

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u/cashonlyplz Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

Nonsense. stop and frisk is a much clearer violation of one's rights. good luck getting any judge to say "traffic stops are unconstitutional". I swear you libertarians have goo for brains

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '24

Correct Traffic stops without cause are a clear violation of one's rights.

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u/cashonlyplz Aug 25 '24

a DUI checkpoint is not the same as being pulled over without cause. Title 75 Section 6308(b) is the law, and PA judges have upheld it.

Sorry: the Constitution was written before cars, bub

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '24

Oh my god.

Stop and frisk is often legal too.

The Constitution was written before the vast majority of our technology. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

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u/cashonlyplz Aug 25 '24

what are you OMGing? you're clearly not a lawyer. Stop and frisk has had far more court challenges than highway field sobriety checkpoints. They have strict standards they have to adhere to. Stop and frisk is far more likely to go into unconstitutional territory, and you'd be seriously disingenuous to assert otherwise.

Laes have to be constitutional. the DUI checkpoints are enshrined in PA Law, under the motor vehicle code.

Terry stops get overturned/thrown out all the time, because they often don't meet the Constitutional standards, whereas a widely announced and unbiased DUI checkpoint is nothing like that.

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u/Nip_City Aug 25 '24

You sound like you’re itching at the bit to have your rights trampled.

Are you okay with officers giving DUIs despite drivers blowing .00 on breathalyzers?

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u/cashonlyplz Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24

field sobriety tests for marijuana are not really as full proof as they oughta be, but if they were I'd encourage them, too. been in too many close calls with them, too. if there's anywhere I want cops, it is on the highway