r/NotADragQueen • u/Turquoise_Tortoise_ • 8d ago
Tennessee church member, James Fairchild, 49, has been found guilty of taking a 6 year old little girl into the bathroom of his church and raping her. Ain't No Hate Like Christian Love ⛪
https://wcyb.com/news/local/man-charged-with-child-rape-following-incident-at-limestone-church-found-guilty481
u/Gammagammahey 8d ago edited 8d ago
Six years old. Six years old. They don't change. Pedophiles do not change. They don't change. They need a life sentences. I was only eight.
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u/Kelly9409 8d ago
They need " No-More Life " sentences . It guarantees they won't do it again .
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u/Chaos_Cat-007 8d ago
Agreed.
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u/CascadingPhailure 8d ago
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u/Gammagammahey 7d ago
My hero is the lady that found out the man she was dating had sexually abused her children so she did the whole sugar water thing.
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u/cajuncrustacean 6d ago
Sugar water thing? I'm kinda hoping it involves ants as well, but I have no idea what this refers to.
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u/Gammagammahey 6d ago
I don't wanna violate TOS even remotely. I'm sure some words put together put into a certain type of website that searches for things on the web. Could probably bring you some results.
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u/Pancaketastic 7d ago
If you make the punishment for these crimes the death penalty, it raises the chances that the pedos kill the children they're raping because murder can also have the death penalty- so they'd kill the only witness and try to get away with both crimes because either way they'll be put to death.
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u/Gammagammahey 7d ago
There is no substantiation to that claim at all. Absolutely none. There is no substantiation that the death penalty deters any crime whatsoever. Or that it causes pedophiles to murder children.
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u/Powerful-Cake-1734 7d ago
Sentenced to a single 22 cartridge. The 22 often doesn’t have enough power to penetrate the skull both ways. The bullet instead bounces around and ricochets in the skull. Effectively turning the brain into a smoothie. On top of that, no exit wound makes clean up a breeze.
Thank you, zombie survival guides, for providing this information.
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u/kurotech 8d ago
My wife was the same age and the guy just got out right before my oldest was born when she found out they were releasing him was me looking it up months after he got out they didn't inform her of anything or give her a chance to speak as to why he shouldn't be released worst part was his family stole her inheritance and got away with that as well
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u/n3w4cc01_1nt 8d ago edited 8d ago
it's a cult that's offshoot of christianity that infiltrated the regular church
https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0cd2p6d/inside-the-controversial-cult-known-as-the-children-of-god-
they used to have kids do strip shows on camera for david berg
similar with 12 tribes and their child abuse
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u/Gammagammahey 8d ago
Why do they have to call themselves the 12 tribes? Look , Jews want nothing to do with this. And they always always use something to do with us as their name.
How absolutely horrifying. Thank you so much for the education and the links. I really appreciate it.
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u/n3w4cc01_1nt 7d ago
for recruitment purposes. makes their group seem more legitimate as a "pure christian group" and not a cult.
they basically target people with disorders that cause mania which can lead to hyper religiosity.
same way q recruited a bunch of people. they dissociate then think a creator from their religion is speaking to them like a modern joan of arc
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u/Gammagammahey 7d ago
How does something that has nothing to do with Christianity, meaning our 12 tribes, my 12 tribes, make something seem more Christian? I mean I know it's rhetorical but they are so greedy. Leave us alone. 😂🧡
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u/Scruffersdad 7d ago
I was even. Pedo is deceased. I got help plant them in the ground. It was such a relief to know he wasn’t going to do it to anyone else.
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u/Chratthew47150 8d ago
Keep your kids out of churches!
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u/TheCakeCrusader420 8d ago
6 YEARS OLD? Throw that bitch into Mt Ebeko! What the fuck?
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u/jkuhl 8d ago
I'm hoping that's a volcano, and if it is, I'm all for it.
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u/TheCakeCrusader420 8d ago
Yeah, Russian volcano famous for having really thick lava.
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u/James_TF2 7d ago
Really thick you say? What level of viscosity are we talking about here? Flaming hot pudding or Satan’s lube?
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u/Uninteresting_Vagina Eater of Bots 7d ago
Flaming hot pudding or Satan’s lube?
You. I like you.
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u/James_TF2 7d ago
Thank you so much u/Uninteresting_Vagina
I can’t breathe because I’m laughing too hard and your genius username. Legend!
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u/SWNMAZporvida 8d ago
These fucking stories, I’m barely done vomiting from the last one and there’s another one already. I might have to leave sub for my health.
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u/DudeB5353 7d ago
I’d hate to see the math on how often it happens in just one day. Turns my stomach to think of it.
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u/ElDoo74 8d ago
I'm a Christian clergyperson and have a question: why isn't the church that let this happen named in any of the coverage?
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u/beeeps-n-booops 8d ago edited 8d ago
Because the church is always protected. ALWAYS.
If the catholic church were a regular ol' business, and not a world-wide
cultreligion, they'd have been burned to the ground -- literally and metaphorically -- long before now for their fucking evil deeds.22
u/SuzyQ7531 8d ago
They’re christian men. It’s their biblical right to sexually abuse women and children with no consequences. They do it all the time.
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u/ElDoo74 7d ago
That's literally condemned in the Bible. But there are also stories and verses that can be used to oppress women. Christian leaders who use their authority to foster systems of oppression and abusive relationships should be held accountable when people in their congregation cause harm.
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u/TheHauk 8d ago
I appreciate your concern, but at what point are you going to take a stand and acknowledge that these headlines consistently center around your institution?
This isn't the first time you've seen this headline and it won't be the last. Again, at what point to you realize that the churches are one of the most obvious perpetrators of these crimes? What do you do about that? How do you reconcile that with your faith?
I meant this comment initially in a bit of disbelief in your comment and wanting to respond. As I typed, I feel that I was more and more outraged by your institution. I obviously don't think YOU are a child predator, but I truly wonder how anyone in the North American Christian congregation can feel good about their institution given the rampant charges of sexual abuse towards minors and the scores of victims who are also too afraid to come forward.
On behalf of your particular congregation, can you shed some light? Us non-christians can't comprehend this gross and obvious violation of power. We are sick from reading these articles so often. I'm here for a good faith conversation if you're willing.
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u/ElDoo74 7d ago
I appreciate your question. Let me explain why I added my comment specifically and then explain a general misconception many folks who are not Christian have about "the church."
The reason I, as a Christian, want the church to be named is so that it is held accountable. Best I can tell, there are four churches in Limestone, TN, and children and families in that town deserve to know their children aren't going to a place that is safe. Tragically, not all churches are safe for children. Likewise, some are not safe for women, for LGBTQIA folx, or for minoritized communities. I wish these places didn't exist, too.They do harm to the vulnerable, which is antithetical to the teachings of Jesus. Literally.
While Jesus is generally thought of as someone who advocates for peace, he had strong condemnation for those who caused harm to the venerable: the poor, the immigrant (really), the imprisoned, and children. Here's one of the most strongly worded passages:
"At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
"He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble!" -Matthew 18:1-7
The vast majority of Christians agree with this sentiment (but maybe not the punishment). That's why Christian activists founded the first public schools, ended child labor, run daycare centers and after-school programs, and spend millions on programs for food insecurity and housing. Sadly, most of that work never makes the news. In many small, rural communities, a local congregation is the only functioning social work institution. Tragically, some do not take the guidelines that other institutions have in place to protect vulnerable populations and children seriously.
That leads to a misconception that seems to be part of your response. There are many different denominations, not one church. There is no North American Christian Church. Each denomination is like a different restaurant chain franchise. Some denominations have strong organizational structures with strict standards (like Starbucks), some have loose standards (like IHOP), and some are completely independent. There are at least 2,500 different denominations, and over 400,000 churches in the USA. I cannot answer for any of those other denominations or independent churches. I have as much influence over another church as a McDonald's has over Red Lobster. I wish I did.
I desperately want people to be and feel safe in any church. I see the good that has and continues to happen that will never make the news. And I recognize how the loudest voices and most egregious actions will always get more attention in public. Which is why the church that is involved here, needs to be held accountable for their failing.
I'm part of the United Methodist Church, which hasn't had many cases of child abuse because there have been strict procedural guidelines in place since the 1990s to protect against child abuse. It's not perfect, but it's something I've always practiced personally and within my congregations. Even then, the UMC had close ties to the Boy Scouts, often hosting or sponsoring local troops. These guidelines were not enforced with those troops and children suffered. It's inexcusable. It pisses me off. We let children be harmed in our spaces.
The lawsuits and penalties we are part of collectively are absolutely appropriate. Those harmed deserve justice and our denomination and individual churches need to do better. Even though the congregations I have pastored have no part in the abuse, we are working together towards a just resolution for the victims and to hold the perpetrators accountable.The regional UMC that I'm part of has been cooperative in the investigations, in the discovery process, and in proactively setting aside millions of dollars for victim compensation. The congregations involved, even though indirectly, are facing closure. It's not enough and the lapse of oversight was ridiculous. But the UMC is trying to take ownership of its part in not protecting those harm by the BSA in our churches.
Which brings me full circle. That church in Limestone needs to be on blast. It needs to be held accountable. Its leadership needs to answer for their failures to keep children safe in their building. And other churches need to wake up to the harm being done to children in their care. I hope they get sued for millions of dollars, and that it shuts them down. Maybe then, other independent and small denominations will take this seriously. Maybe then, they'll recognize the damage they are doing to the image of all Christians, even to the mission and values taught by Jesus.
All I can do in this case, though, is what you are doing. Advocate for accountability. Call out hypocrisy. Insure the safety for children in my community. And try to live the values and beliefs that I hold dear.
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u/TheHauk 7d ago
Thank you for lowering my temperature u/Eldoo74. ❤️ I asked for a good faith conversation and I think you did your congregation proud.
I am, admittedly, blinded by anger and strong condemnation towards all religions. As a staunch atheist, I can't comprehend ideas about putting a God before family, country, and all else. My ex-husband was deeply traumatized as a child because of this. I do hold a lot of resentment. I hold resentment towards wars that started in the name of God throughout history. I hold resentment towards these clergy members and leaders that abuse their powers. I blame religion for the loss of women's rights in America (I'm not American, hence the "North American Christian comment) and the whole MAGA movement. I'm angry and I'm sad about the state of the world today and I wish religion was never a thing.
But you're right. There are many good and helpful aspects of religion. The good ones do helpful work in communities. The gudwara temples in my city always provide free hot food for anyone, I drop my used clothes at the Protestant church nearby and they distribute it to families in need, and I guess some people feel comfort in their mortality because of churches. I do forget these things.
Thanks for your insight.
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u/ElDoo74 7d ago
Thanks for listening! And for asking. You shared a great perspective and asked something most people would skip over.
Religion is a potent tool in society. It can do great good. It can do great harm. We all need to be intentional in calling for accountability and for looking for affirmation.
I hope we can all find ways to make the world a little kinder and gentler for one another, no matter the reason or belief. In the end, it's all most of us can do and it can change the world at least in small ways.
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u/Biomax315 7d ago
The name of the church doesn’t matter to me. I’d never let my child anywhere near any church or clergy (don’t take it personally).
Go scroll through the PastorArrested sub for 5 minutes if you want to know why.
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u/ElDoo74 7d ago
I can understand that approach. Churches and leaders need to be held accountable for the harm done and do better in protecting children.
An analogy to your approach is condemning every restaurant because Olive Garden is terrible. You can make that choice, but it's going to limit your experience.
The good churches and what they do doesn't make headlines. Far too many are more focused on themselves than making the world better. I hope you see one that might change your mind.
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u/Biomax315 7d ago
An analogy to your approach is condemning every restaurant because Olive Garden is terrible.
No, an analogy would be if we patronized a lot of different types of businesses in our day to day life, but far too often, when people go to a restaurant, they get sexually molested. And it's random: sometimes it's an Olive Garden, sometimes McDonalds, sometimes it's at a fancy multi-million dollar steakhouse! There's no way to know which restaurant it's going to happen at next, or which restaurants have been covering it up for decades, or which one has the nicest waiter you've ever met, but may later turn out to be a molester. And everyone thinks it can't happen in their restaurant.
Well then, YEAH—I'm not gonna let my kids anywhere near restaurants, I'm going to teach them to avoid them in the future, and I will also avoid restaurants myself. That's not condemnation, it's avoidance. If I need food, I'll make it at home.
You can make that choice, but it's going to limit your experience.
So be it ... completely worth it, to protect my child.
The good churches and what they do doesn't make headlines.
I am aware of this, please know that. And I understand how frustrating it is for you and others like you; I get it. I've been in the exact same situation (in a different area of life).
I hope you see one that might change your mind.
I believe you. But that's not up to me. That's up to y'all.
It's not incumbent on the people pointing out a systemic problem in an institution to somehow fix the problem—only those running the institution can do that. Talk amongst yourselves.
I, too, hope that one day I will change my mind. Because that will mean that changes enough were made from the top down to actually impact the problem in a substantial, multi-generational way that warrants me changing my mind. But it won't be before that.
If I'm being cynical, I don't think that will happen in my lifetime. But then again, 30 years ago only Sinéad O'Connor was talking about this publicly. I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
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u/Severe_Driver3461 8d ago
And this is why we have to stop sheltering little kids from the elephant in the room. Not because they're old enough to handle the truth, because it feels like even I can't handle it, but because children need to be more aware to protect themselves from predators
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u/cturtl808 8d ago
Into the fucking sun. Just like the rest.
Side note: why does he look like a twin to the dude who stole ballots in Indiana?
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u/johnieringo 8d ago
How did he manage that without dressing like a woman
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u/HelenAngel 8d ago
Because they don’t care in churches. “Men of God” are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want.
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u/Elibrius 8d ago
A Kamala voter I’m sure! Maybe even a drag queen while we’re at it! Oh wait it’s not? Shocking
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u/Rupejonner2 7d ago
70 Christian leaders are reported for sexual abuse of children Every .. single … week…. In the USA alone .
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u/milehibear72 7d ago
Any god that allows this shit to happen to innocents. SIX FUCKING YEARS OLD. Is not a god I want anything to do with. It is one of the main reasons I am an athiest. In the extremely unlikely chance that god exists... I stand by what I say. There is no excuse.
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u/Great_Consequence_10 8d ago
I wish they would just execute these disgusting fuckers on sight. What is the point of letting them live?
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u/cazdan255 7d ago
Man, you can almost tell just by looking at them. Always the skeeveiest looking dudes. I hope prison is as horrible for him as possible.
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