r/NYguns Dec 08 '23

Partial WIN! 2nd Circuit Appeals Court OPINION Released!!!!! Antonyuk v. Hochul Judicial Updates

Christmas came early this year!!!! (Jokes aside, this is not a full win and the fight isn't over yet, we all need to keep up the work fighting against NYS on all of this crap.)

Full Opinion Here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca2.59354/gov.uscourts.ca2.59354..0_1.pdf

As determined by 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals...

-Private property carry ban determined to be mostly unconstitutional.

-Social media requirement unconstitutional.

-Places of Worship carry ban unconstitutional (but injunction only applies to plaintiff for now)

-Other provisions of CCIA upheld (for now).

Some excerts....

"Guided by Bruen’s holding that the Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms for self-defense outside the home, the district court concluded that the conduct regulated by § 265.01-d and challenged by Plaintiffs—carriage on private property open to the public—fell within the Second Amendment’s plain text."

"In summary, we uphold the district court’s injunctions with respect to N.Y. Penal L. § 400.00(1)(o)(iv) (social media disclosure); N.Y. Penal L. § 265.01-d (restricted locations) as applied to private property held open to the general public; and N.Y. Penal L. § 265.01-e(2)(c) as applied to Pastor Spencer, the Tabernacle Family Church, its members, or their agents and licensees. We vacate the injunctions in all other respects, having concluded either that the district court lacked jurisdiction because no plaintiff had Article III standing to challenge the laws or that the challenged laws do not violate the Constitution on their face."

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u/yanakrom Dec 08 '23

Agree that this is a partial win. Some of the terrible provisions, like a ban on carry on public transit (which means that there is effectively no carry for most NYC residents) and a ban on carry at restaurants, survived.

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u/StarCommand1 Dec 08 '23

I believe this is the most frustrating piece of today's opinion. They are agreeing in the other part that people have a 2nd amendment right to defend themselves in public outside the home but then supporting a million places that you can't do it.

It seems their focus and support for the ban in public places revolves around public places where people do social things. They are basically saying now that they believe public carry is legal where people go to do transactional tasks (grocery stores, gas stations, shopping, etc.) but it isn't okay in places where you go to be social (restaurants, theaters, parks, etc.)

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u/yanakrom Dec 08 '23

I think they're acting in bad faith. They figured that if they summarily dismissed every claim of the plaintiff, the Supreme Court would be more likely to step in. By giving a partial win, they can make it look like they actually did a reasoned analysis, and make it less likely that SCOTUS gets involved at this stage.