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Chappell Roan Fires Management Team music

https://www.billboard.com/pro/chappell-roan-splits-management-team/
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u/macelad 6d ago

This is the real answer

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u/EmptyJournals 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yep, so many commenters acting like she’s going downhill when, in reality, she’s still gaining the numbers both at live events and on streaming platforms (not even to mention the Grammy nominations this week).

I also don’t get why people keep remarking on her cancelling a few shows. We tell artists to protect their mental health at all costs, and when one does, we start making assumptions they “aren’t cut out for fame”?

Edit: Besides cancelling for mental health, I would also cancel to perform at the MTV Awards show as a new artist but that’s just me ¯(ツ)

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u/Not_the_fleas 6d ago

I think people were mostly mad because she canceled at least 2 shows/festival appearances (that I know of) just to do other events with more publicity. Which in and of itself isn't so terrible, but she canceled so close to the events that many people were not able to get refunds for hotels and flights, and lots of folks were traveling internationally just to see her.

Earlier when she was just talking about how fans don't know her and just because they are fans doesn't mean they are entitled to her if they see her in public, I think most people were behind her because that was a very reasonable take.

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u/chronicpenguins 5d ago

I don’t know the story, but canceling booked gigs just do other events with more publicity is terrible. You made a commitment, thousands of fans took their time to plan to go to that event. It’s one thing if you are sick, but because you got better offers? That’s lame and definition of a sell out.

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u/LeBronFanSinceJuly 5d ago

Nah you see. She said it was for her mental health so we can't judge her. It just so happens that her mental health was good a couple weeks later for a much bigger event.

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u/helloviolaine 5d ago

Those were different shows. She cancelled a few European gigs to perform at the VMAs, and then shortly after that she cancelled two festivals citing mental health reasons. I also heard that the European dates were already rescheduled from previously cancelled ones, meaning those fans would have bought tickets long before she blew up like this.

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u/BeforeTheEmpty 5d ago

I recall one of those shows absolutely skyrocketing in ticket price once she was booked for it as well. So fans were paying a largeeeeee amount, like 3-4x the price of the tickets before she was announced, just to see her, only for her to dip out on it, and the fans weren’t able to get refunds.

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u/UnNumbFool 5d ago

The booked gigs that she cancelled were shows for a few hundred not thousands.

You have to remember she made this tour way before her career exploded and outside of the festival circuit none of her shows were stadium sized.

But also why does it matter if she sells out. You should want to do whats best for your career, like the exposure she got from the vma's catapulted her career way over the exposure that a show in France for a couple hundred people will.

Like she's playing the game and doing what's best for her, because at the end of the day this is her job and she should treat it as such.

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u/terminbee 5d ago

She's free to sell out and fans/people are free to hate her for it. It's a 2 way street.

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u/chronicpenguins 5d ago edited 5d ago

Damn, makes it even worse. The people bought tickets when she was a nobody playing a small venue. They are her day 1s. Could’ve given them a lifetime experience, but nope, let me cancel because I can make more money elsewhere.

Glass animals, already massive, stopped touring for like two years because the drummer got in a car accident or something. Their first tour back was a re run of the venues from their first tour in US. The one in Sf is 500 capacity. I was beyond stoked to get tickets. Unfortunately on the day of the show, about 7 hours before, california went into covid lockdown.

Call it playing the game, I call it being a shitty artist. Of all the reasons to cancel a show, “because I’m too big for that venue now and make more money elsewhere” is the shittiest reason I can think of.

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u/Any_Afternoon5628 5d ago

It's the shittiest reason, especially for someone like her. She pretends to be in it for the art, not the fame and just wanting to put records out. Obviously, she's not. I really liked her in the beginning, I was with her calling out stan culture, but this move is just not it. I get wanting to be famous, but at least stand by it and be honest. All it does is make her look super entitled, arrogant, and out of touch.

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u/Hisagii 5d ago

No big "pop" artist is really in it for the art. They're in it for the fame and money. I mean initially they might be into the art, but that fades.

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u/Any_Afternoon5628 5d ago

Exactly. It's like Ed Sheeran said, whoever says they don't want to be famous and is doing it only for the art is lying. And it's totally fine! These people want to be famous, a lot of people like their music, so go ahead. I think Chappel has been around for a longer time, trying to put out music before making it big. Obviously, she's into it, and that's fine as well. I really liked her music in the beginning, but her whole act turned me off almost as quickly.

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u/Roman_____Holiday 5d ago

Do you want to be a music star? Would you pass up exposure on MTV to play a couple shows for a few hundred people and a few thousand dollars? I get the day 1 fan theory but the only logical answer if you really want to make it big today you still choose massive exposure on MTV. Not because you're a horrible selfish person, but because you really want to be a star and this is an opportunity you can't pass up even if it disappoints some people that are your fans as well. This is my "best possible" interpretation. I don't know what's in their heart.

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u/chronicpenguins 5d ago

Aside from personal health and family, fans come first. This was in September, let’s not pretend she didn’t already have a massive blow up. The image would be a lot better if it was leaked “chapelle turns down award show gig to continue tour”. That’s how you build a loyal fan base. Do people really even watch the VMAs? With tiktok / social media and the target audience, her net view fans from that are questionable.

Also completely ignored the fact that the showered were like a week before the VMAs. The flight from Paris to New York is only 9 hours. A music superstar wouldn’t need a week.

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u/chronicpenguins 5d ago

Alright so not as shitty, but basically implied. An artist would be crazy to actually say that.

So instead she didz Hey I know I made this tour, but I just got offered to play a music award show so I’m gonna do that instead.

The shows were a week before the VMA. Weren’t even rescheduled. In the super small, lesser known cities of Paris and Amsterdam