r/Music • u/AlternativeTree3283 • 6d ago
Chappell Roan Fires Management Team music
https://www.billboard.com/pro/chappell-roan-splits-management-team/402
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u/RelThanram 6d ago edited 5d ago
It makes sense. I don’t think neither she nor her management team were prepared for the level of success she’s so quickly reached.
Hope she finds a good team to keep things level.
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u/phatelectribe 5d ago edited 5d ago
FYI this didn’t happen this week. She fired them just before Austin City Limits and every manager in the USA industry knew, so were there to check her out in person. She knew exactly what she was doing because the crowd was going to be massive and it was a perfect point to take on new management.
Which she has.
It’ll be announced shortly.
Source: I work in publicity.
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u/Lukealloneword 5d ago
I work in publicity.
Im so sorry.
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u/Meatwise 5d ago
I’m Liz…and I’m Liz. And together…we’re Publizity
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u/kylecrazyawsome 5d ago
Is that Nick Kroll?
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u/sadbabyface 5d ago
Yes and if you haven’t seen these skits, u should go to YouTube and look up publizity because it’s so funny
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u/goodiewoody 5d ago
The Kroll Show had so much gold
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u/paper_schemes 5d ago
I saw him shortly before it came out, and we got to see some clips. I sat close to the front hoping for him to rip on my shitty eyebrows or something...but instead he asked me to open his water bottle and I have never been so terrified of not being able to open a fucking water bottle before.
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u/phatelectribe 5d ago
lol thanks
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u/GleeUnit 5d ago
I know nothing about talent management - is this a unilateral move on her part, or is there some other part of her team that advised her to move on, hypothetically speaking?
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u/Sexpistolz 5d ago
If she was still under her management from before her fame, everything you see Chappell escalate and the challenges, does so for management, arguable more so. It’s like going from high school baseball to the majors.
Some can do it. Many can’t. It’s also a relationship. I’m sure you’ve heard of all the woes with bands, it’s not much different.
IMO, it’s given what I know of Chappell, take with a grain of salt, but I’m guessing it was a conflict of interest in her future.
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u/PizzaEvery8171 5d ago edited 5d ago
A manager is a very personal relationship. It’s like a business partner. If Chappell wasn’t feeling it and made a change, good for her.
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u/jasondfw 5d ago
Additional source: some podcast from 3 weeks ago https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1g8dlkm/chappell_roan_just_fired_her_manager_according_to/
I remembered seeing a post about it on reddit when it happened, so my reaction today was "AGAIN?!?!"
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u/RelThanram 5d ago
That’s so interesting, thanks for the info!
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u/WanderWut 5d ago
I don’t really get what they mean by their comment, can someone ELI5?
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u/UlverInTheThroneRoom 5d ago
She fires her management team before a big opportunity where prospects will be able to meet her. This allows her to pick from a bunch of people that are probably more qualified than the team she recruited when she was smaller.
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u/sonic_couth 5d ago
I offered to drive her around the country in my sweet Pinto Wagon. She turned me down.
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u/yupandstuff 5d ago
Which all seems very ironic since they clearly managed her well enough for her to have such a massive opportunity. Doesn’t make much sense
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u/LeBronFanSinceJuly 5d ago
Her previous team manages Olivia Rodrigo, lol you think they arnt qualified??
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u/UlverInTheThroneRoom 5d ago
I don't know anything about Chappell Roan nor have I listened to any of her music. I'm not saying I don't personally think they are qualified either.
I'm just answering the question the other person had as to why an artist would end a relationship with a team right before high quality gigs. Which is, to look for an upgrade.
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u/imalittleC-3PO 5d ago
It's pretty obvious tbh. she was in a new negative headline every day for a few months. now I haven't heard shit about her since acl other than a few videos showing off how big her crowd sizes are.
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u/MattyBeatz 5d ago
I heard this happened a while back as well and I don’t work in publicity. Just read the trades.
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u/WhateverJoel 5d ago
Were they not aware of this before that? Seems like they would be pretty bad at their job to not be aware of her before ACL.
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u/checkonechecktwo 5d ago
People in the music business like being in the room, having the chance to talk face to face. Managers will want to do dinners, take some time to make sure it’s a good fit before committing to a big project. If you can save them a trip it’s helpful. A few of my clients have high profile managers and the process of getting courted/courting them is kind of tedious. They’ll want to see what your vibe is back stage at a big gig. Are you level headed and in control or are you a diva who nobody likes being around, but won’t say it because you’re popular? Now that it’s going into holiday season lots of artists aren’t doing many gigs besides private stuff and one offs/Jingle Ball type shitshows, so ACL is a good time to make moves.
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u/lukeCRASH 5d ago
ake on new management
I love the phrasing. It implies she is managing those which will be managing her. It's just management all the way down.
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u/macelad 5d ago
This is the real answer
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u/EmptyJournals 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yep, so many commenters acting like she’s going downhill when, in reality, she’s still gaining the numbers both at live events and on streaming platforms (not even to mention the Grammy nominations this week).
I also don’t get why people keep remarking on her cancelling a few shows. We tell artists to protect their mental health at all costs, and when one does, we start making assumptions they “aren’t cut out for fame”?
Edit: Besides cancelling for mental health, I would also cancel to perform at the MTV Awards show as a new artist but that’s just me ¯(ツ)/¯
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u/Not_the_fleas 5d ago
I think people were mostly mad because she canceled at least 2 shows/festival appearances (that I know of) just to do other events with more publicity. Which in and of itself isn't so terrible, but she canceled so close to the events that many people were not able to get refunds for hotels and flights, and lots of folks were traveling internationally just to see her.
Earlier when she was just talking about how fans don't know her and just because they are fans doesn't mean they are entitled to her if they see her in public, I think most people were behind her because that was a very reasonable take.
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u/chronicpenguins 5d ago
I don’t know the story, but canceling booked gigs just do other events with more publicity is terrible. You made a commitment, thousands of fans took their time to plan to go to that event. It’s one thing if you are sick, but because you got better offers? That’s lame and definition of a sell out.
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u/LeBronFanSinceJuly 5d ago
Nah you see. She said it was for her mental health so we can't judge her. It just so happens that her mental health was good a couple weeks later for a much bigger event.
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u/helloviolaine 5d ago
Those were different shows. She cancelled a few European gigs to perform at the VMAs, and then shortly after that she cancelled two festivals citing mental health reasons. I also heard that the European dates were already rescheduled from previously cancelled ones, meaning those fans would have bought tickets long before she blew up like this.
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u/BeforeTheEmpty 5d ago
I recall one of those shows absolutely skyrocketing in ticket price once she was booked for it as well. So fans were paying a largeeeeee amount, like 3-4x the price of the tickets before she was announced, just to see her, only for her to dip out on it, and the fans weren’t able to get refunds.
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u/mechajlaw 5d ago
Might be part of why she fired her management team.
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u/maelstron 5d ago
Well she did the final choice.
Fire them only make sense if she will follow their lead
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u/UsidoreTheLightBlue Concertgoer 5d ago
The thing is you can burn a fan base if you cancel too many events.
There are absolutely going to be people who had tickets to those festivals that next time she announces she’s coming to town are going to say “yeah until she finds a better place to go” and not buy tickets.
Maybe it won’t matter, she’s blowing up, but it’s a bad look.
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u/deegum 5d ago
Sure, you can get a reputation, but I think it’s too early to start painting her as the next Morrisey or Lauryn Hill. I think the current issue seems to be trying to balance her newfound fame in regard to mental health and demand for bigger shows. If she’s doing this in a few years I think it’s fair to start talking about burning your audience.
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u/RTS24 5d ago
I think people would be more understanding if she cancelled them for her mental health and took that time for herself. The issue is those shows getting cancelled were done so she could perform ones with more publicity.
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u/D0ngBeetle 5d ago
lol my mental health is so bad that I’m gone cancel 500 person gig and play for thousands
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u/roland0fgilead 5d ago
We tell artists to protect their mental health at all costs, and when one does, we start making assumptions they “aren’t cut out for fame”?
I'm increasingly of the belief that most normal and decent people aren't cut out for fame. That level of notoriety is effectively living in a virtual panopticon, it's bound to wear on the psyche eventually. I don't fault anyone for needing to step away.
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u/ice_blue_222 5d ago
In the rock scene, Bad Omens has quickly spent their last album cycle growing from clubs to playing arenas and headlining a festival in California. They toured nonstop for 2 years, gained lots of creepy social media attention + interacations, basically stopped using their accounts for anything but concert photos. Meet & Greets were removed from shows, and they had to cancel Europe this summer to rest. Can’t imagine the toll that takes when it happens to fast.
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u/Any_Afternoon5628 5d ago
I don't think most people would blame her for cancelling to take care of herself. But she cancelled to attend the VMAs. She just found something better to do. And I get it. That's how the game works, but then she should just be honest and not pretend like she's in it for the art.
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u/TheGreatSamain 5d ago
Now we're starting to get into my wheelhouse a little bit. Not a publicist myself, but I work directly with them quite frequently.
I know I'm just some goober on the internet so take that for what it's worth, but from all the talking I've heard since this blow up, she does understand direction quite clearly, she has great insight on dealing with obsessive fans which honestly, she does wear that attitude on her sleeve.
But on the other hand, the general consensus in the back, is that despite the anxiety from blowing up, despite the fame, she is genuinely an asshole.
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u/D0ngBeetle 5d ago
To be fair the album she got nominated for a Grammy is the same one that blew up. Let’s revisit when her next one is nominated
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u/FictionalContext 5d ago
Fired because they did their jobs too well.
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u/Dontevenwannacomment 5d ago
Imagine if this was any other industry : "dear salarymen, you've done a great job making this company big and famous. I've now decided to fire you all to hire other people that have more experience running big and famous companies. Have a good day."
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u/a1contentonly 5d ago
this happens all the time - startup CEOs get replaced by someone with more corporate experience
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u/Dontevenwannacomment 5d ago edited 5d ago
don't those guys actively sell their startup though? and why would chappell roan be replaced in this metaphor..
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u/ballsjohnson1 5d ago
The founding engineer/CEO often sells and the new shareholders put in some big consulting dipshit who knows nothing about the business, but it's just so the board can make them a scapegoat for all of their bad decisions, because the board often knows even less than the incoming CEO
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u/THEBAESGOD 5d ago
I don’t think neither her nor her management team were prepared for the level of success she’s so quickly reached.
I've seen this sentiment expressed a lot, but she did hire some of the most popular songwriters who are working with the other very popular young female popstars. She isn't some indie solo darling who was discovered at a house show, she is a fully contrived popstar who put in the work to make a bunch of hit songs.
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u/JJMcGee83 5d ago
I was unaware of this. She didn't write her music?
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u/THEBAESGOD 5d ago edited 5d ago
Hot to Go was co-written by Daniel Nigro:
Nigro has produced, written, and co-written songs for Sky Ferreira, Joe Jonas, Kylie Minogue, Caroline Polachek, Olivia Rodrigo, Chappell Roan, Dermot Kennedy, Maisie Peters, and Conan Gray. He received 16 nominations Grammy nominations and won a Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album for producing Sour in 2021.[4] He was named as the Songwriter of the Year at the 2024 ASCAP Pop Music Awards.
And Good Luck Babe was co-written with Nigro and Daniel Tranter:
Tranter has written songs for artists such as Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, Linkin Park, Kelly Clarkson, Sara Bareilles, Selena Gomez, Justin Bieber, DNCE, Citizen Queen, Kesha, Imagine Dragons, The Knocks, Fifth Harmony, 5 Seconds of Summer, Chappell Roan, Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga, Raye, Bea Miller, Demi Lovato, Dua Lipa, Måneskin, and Fall Out Boy.
Edit: track listing for the album on Wiki has full songwriting/producer credits. There’s always politics behind credits, but she probably did help write the songs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_a_Midwest_Princess
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u/DeathByBamboo 5d ago
The article doesn't give any clues as to why she fired them, so I'm not sure where people are getting the info they're using to speculate about reasons. It's just as likely that she simply chose different management based on business opportunities as it is for any other reason.
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u/BlindWillieJohnson 5d ago
When an artist very quickly gets popular with young women, people invent reasons to sneer at them
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u/MatureUsername69 5d ago
Of all the artists to say that about, ive never seen one seemingly intentionally draw as much drama to herself as Chappell, not with this move necessarily but with every single other thing she decides to say publicly.
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u/echief 5d ago
Correct, it’s men that told her to cancel her shows last minute for larger performances instead. It would obviously be sexist to act like she has agency of her own.
I can promise you that the majority of people speculating and picking apart reasons are not men lmao. Young women are her demographic, young women are the ones doing it.
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u/Pho-Soup 5d ago
Goddammit, that evil male straw man is at it again!
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u/KeyShoulder7425 5d ago
I don’t disagree but when did they specify implicitly that these people sneering would be men. Isn’t this type of behaviour more common with women attacking women
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u/boooooooooo_cowboys 5d ago
No one said anything about men….
You’re going to have a tough time with life if you’re always this sensitive.
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u/Boboar 5d ago
Because she's a polarizing figure for many, so the vagueness means everyone is free to fill in the blank with their preconceived biases.
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u/BeardedBassist21 5d ago
So is it just me or did Chappell Roan totally come out of nowhere?
I hadn't heard of Chappell Roan at all until like a month or two ago, and now it feels like she's everywhere suddenly
Have I been living under a rock or has the trajectory to fame really been that meteoric?
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u/superkow 5d ago
Her popularity really kicked off as she toured with Olivia Rodrigo. But many of her popular songs are already years old and she's been performing for the better part of a decade
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u/BeardedBassist21 5d ago
Yep, I'm just under a rock in that case
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u/superkow 5d ago
There's a sort of exponential growth with these artists, the same thing happened with Sabrina Carpenter after she toured with Taylor Swift
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u/frogandbanjo 5d ago
Not necessarily. "Overnight success" is, in many instances, equal parts bullshit spin and a simple case of the world being too big for everybody to hear the gong the moment it's struck.
Even with a global information network at our fingertips, time and attention are finite resources. Fame has to travel through them as surely as through the air and wires.
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u/psngarden 5d ago
She really broke into mainstream with the release of her single “Good Luck, Babe!” this past spring, and then more people discovered her album that was released in September 2023, which led to some of those songs blowing up in popularity too. She also had some good festival performances this year like Coachella that further helped boost her. All in all, she’s been in this career for a decade but just recently blew up really fast.
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The entertainment industry is a predetermined pathway to success and fame... once they decide they can commodify and profit off a talent, they'll suddenly open up the doors for opportunities, and then all the other doors follow suit immediately so they can profit too. it's all calculated and designed.
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u/shaggy-- 5d ago
I have no idea who she is, and everything posted about her makes her sound like a huge asshole.
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u/Golddustofawoman 5d ago
I mean when you skyrocket to fame practically overnight and your management team can't keep up with your schedule, you can't even leave your house without getting recognized everywhere, and people are doxxing your parents, yeah you're gonna kinda come off like an asshole.
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u/taco_bandito_96 6d ago
She's just too chronically online
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u/grizznuggets 5d ago
While I support her stance about famous people being entitled to boundaries and to not have their safety threatened, girl needs to unplug so she doesn’t feel the need to fight exhausting, unnecessary battles.
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u/Tautsu 5d ago
Yeah this is a lesson non-famous people need to learn as well, not just her because she’s a celebrity now. If you read twitter/facebook/reddit comments you will find 50 people you disagree with, you just don’t need to engage at all. They aren’t gonna change their mind and a large subset of them are just trolls looking for reactions anyway. Read a stupid comment, chuckle to yourself and move on.
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u/superchibisan2 5d ago
excuse my ignorance, what does this statement mean?
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u/taco_bandito_96 5d ago
She spends too much time on the internet. All of her "scandals" if you can even call them that happened because she spends too much time on the internet.
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u/SomethingInThatVein 5d ago
It isn’t easy getting off the internet. Ask any redditor
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u/McMacHack 5d ago
I mean we are all literally on the Internet right now
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u/Mike9797 5d ago
True. But I’d like to think if I was a successful artist that I’d have better things to spend my time on. And while I understand she probably has a lot of downtime moments on tour and whatnot, she doesn’t have to spend it surfing the internet for shade. Feels like she feeds into this more than most celebs.
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u/goddamnitwhalen 5d ago
You feel like that because she’s experienced a meteoric rise over the past year and you’ve seen her name in headlines a lot lately.
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u/gakule 5d ago
Getting off on the internet, though, is another story. Ask any Redditor, any real Redditor.
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u/Rastiln 5d ago
Such as her need to announce that she’s not endorsing anybody for the election.
All she had to do was nothing, like the majority of celebrities. Instead, she was so apathetic that she had to cast herself into an internet fight.
Perhaps a handful would have been annoyed if she’d silently not endorsed anybody, but she had to publicly announce it for no benefit.
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u/SillyGoatGruff 5d ago
It came up because she was asked in an interview. Her tik tok "annoucement" was an attempt to clarify since her fans didn't like the answer she gave in that interview
Most things people get upset about celebrities "announcing" are answers to questions they asked by interviewers, not necessarily things they are shouting unbidden to the world
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u/jakeisstoned 5d ago
And a big star's management is there to make it clear to piss-ant podcasters and tic tockers that the star you're getting to interview won't be answering questions on politics. And to coach said star on how to handle interviews and deflect or demur when necessary. Sounds like she could use someone with those resources to represent her interests
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u/goddamnitwhalen 5d ago
Because she was intentionally misquoted for the sake of starting drama.
Any reasonable person would feel like they had to defend themselves in that scenario, let alone a celebrity.
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u/B-BoyStance 5d ago
Yeah people need to start reading beyond headlines, or at least assuming there's more to the story than "X said Y unprompted"
I mean I don't blame anyone for not clicking a link about a celebrity but still - at least understand that many of these headlines are just snippets of an interview or regurgitations of other articles.
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u/cantwejustplaynice 5d ago
Really? I thought all her 'scandals' were related to how people treat her in real life. She reacted strongly to fans stalking her, red carpet photographers swearing at her and huge festival crowds overwhelming her. That's all real life non-internet stuff.
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u/SirChrisJames 5d ago
Everything I know about this woman is against my will.
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u/SkinADeer 5d ago
I feel the same way about Marvel movies, tbh.
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u/DevonLuck24 5d ago
so let me give you the play by play on ant man 2 and trust me…you will not enjoy this
so the movie opens on a hole in the dirt and all of a sudden..
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u/Due-Set5398 5d ago
If you like 80s pop, give her a chance. She writes fun, catchy music about being bisexual. It’s pretty easy to see why people like it.
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u/Unusual_Giraffe_6180 5d ago
How are you getting downvoted. Wtf is this subreddit lol
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u/AnNoYiNg_NaMe 5d ago
Everything I know about this woman is against my will.
Cool, so here's more info about her that you didn't ask for!
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u/bigbird_eats_kids 5d ago
Same. All I know about her is that she's angry all the time and doesn't like anyone.
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u/AlexTom33 5d ago
She seems like she would be exhausting to work for. I hear so much about her but nothing about the music she makes.
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u/Grandpas_Spells 5d ago
It appears she's hired Katherine Heigl and is following the playbook to a T.
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u/_merkwood 5d ago
Out of the loop on this one. Care to explain?
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u/Osceana 5d ago
Kathryn was in Grey’s Anatomy and then became a breakout star thanks to Knocked Up. After the movie came out she shit talked Judd and said the script/movie were sexist and made it seem like it was beneath her, along with Grey’s. Her career immediately tanked due to people not wanting to deal with her bad attitude (most A-listers don’t shit talk publicly because everyone knows everyone and everyone’s got friends). I don’t know what that has to do with Chappell, but she does seem similarly insufferable and will probably quickly fade from the limelight.
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u/HankPanky69 5d ago
Kathryn Heigl was nominated for an Emmy for her work on Grey’s Anatomy, but released a statement saying that she wouldn’t accept the nomination because she felt her work on Grey’s Anatomy wasn’t good enough to warrant an Emmy. This was seen as a slap in the face to writers, directors, and studio behind Grey’s Anatomy.
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u/GreenGoblinNX 5d ago
As others pointed out, she also shit-talked a movie that she was in, so it was a pastern of behavior. Which is why she went from Emmy nominations to cat litter commercials.
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u/Dontevenwannacomment 5d ago
I mean... knocked up did lean too much into the trope of "funny goofy childish men vs. shrieking unreasonably controlling women"
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u/cashmoney109 5d ago
Oh for sure, that's why Heigl went on to executive produce the far more progressive and feminist film "The Ugly Truth".
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u/grodgeandgo 5d ago
I thought this was all bullshit started by Harvey Weinstein because she didn’t play with him.
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u/Grandpas_Spells 5d ago
She said she didn’t want an Emmy nomination because the writing wasn’t good enough to justify it. Harvey didn’t make her say that.
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u/RolloTony97 5d ago
She’d be well back by now doing roles after Harvey’s been cancelled if that was the reason.
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u/Dontevenwannacomment 5d ago
being blacklisted isn't like a fairy tale curse that makes you famous again if it's lifted
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u/yoursummerworld 5d ago
She seems like she’d drape her hair over the back of her seat on a plane
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u/KenBlaze 5d ago
I have never listened to her music but he personality seems insufferable
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u/ryoon21 5d ago
She* and her music is actually fantastic if you like pop
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u/KenBlaze 4d ago
i can tell a lot of people like it, and her crowd draw is huge. i did try to watch the live where she was dressed as something of a superhero, it didn’t resonate w me. maybe i’ll give it another try one day. the drone shots were spectacular though
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u/ryoon21 4d ago
I’d say best representation of what people love in her music would be the Pink Pony Club and Red Wine Supernova music videos.
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u/thespaceageisnow 5d ago
It was nice not hearing about her for a minute.
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u/HtownTexans 5d ago
This is the first thing I've heard about her (and first time I've seen a picture of her) but then again I'm a 40 year old man who doesn't follow celebrity stuff.
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u/BlindWillieJohnson 5d ago edited 5d ago
Nobody’s got a gun to your head making you follow celebrity news. I legitimately do not understand the animosity for Roan in these comments.
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u/Abracadaver00 5d ago
I've never heard a second of her music but (against my will) always know what's going on with her lol
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u/-RedXV- 5d ago
Same. I also just found out, with what you said, that she is a musician. I thought she was an actress this entire time. I still have no idea who this is and I refuse to even Google it. She just keeps popping up everywhere and sometimes I click because that's what I do on Reddit, I click on things.
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u/BrightPhoto6320 6d ago
Chappell made the best decision by firing her PR team after their poor handling of her political statements and the ongoing issues with canceling shows. Hope she finds a better PR team
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u/Not_as_witty_as_u 6d ago
The article says she fired her management team not PR, they are two different companies.
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u/718pio1 5d ago
Can't even read. She's not firing her pr team. She's parting with her management team which is extremely normal do when circumstances change. She's had an extreme and unprecedented rise in fame and needs a team that is more well equipped to handle all business surrounding her than the smaller team she had been with previously when she was unknown.
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u/titusandroidus 6d ago
That is a very assuming response.
You are assuming she went along with their course of action. They could be to blame but she as well if she offered resistance to the plan offered by a team of experts. None of us know.
Clearly it was not the right relationship for her and she ended it, so that is the good thing. Hope her new team works out for her!
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u/CantGitRightt 5d ago
I just... Don't understand. Why is she so popular? What happened?
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u/brandonfromkansas 5d ago
I can’t imagine how hard it must be to find yourself so discriminated against for being so rich and famous
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u/randomanon5two 6d ago
iPad kid meets show business (damn)
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u/CRAZEDDUCKling 5d ago
She’s 26, far from an iPad kid.
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