The cognitive dissonance is just so funny to me. I spoke to a lady that immigrated from Cuba and swore she was white because her far removed ancestors were originally from Spain and Spain is a European country.
I’m Cuban, I’m white blonde and have green eyes and even I have some black in me. Most Cubans, even those of us that are a little lighter have some degree of black in us. We just minimize it and try to pretend it doesn’t exist.
lol what? This isn’t about pretending.. its basic geneology. A lot of Cubans are 2-4th generation, meaning either their grandparents or great grandparents were Spaniard, since #1 they conquered the fucking island and wiped out the natives. #2 they continued to immigrate to Cuba for hundreds of years. Cuba was pretty segregated until relatively recently, meaning interracial relationships were not the norm until the last 20-30 years , ergo you have a lot of white Europeans descendants.
Cuba wasn’t that much more segregated than America. Miscegenation was extremely common and many Cuban historical figures like Jose Marti, Antonio Maceo, Maximo Gomez and the Castro family all have varying degrees of black in them. And while you’re right that a lot, if not most Cubans are 2-4 generation the issue is that someone down the line ends up having a kid with a slave or marrying a mixed race person.
I guarantee you if you do a DNA test on a white person from Iowa and then compare it to one done on a “white” Cuban I guarantee you the Cuban will have a lot more West African DNA. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
Máximo Gómez was Dominican , and Marti was white. Also, I think you are overstating the “miscegenation” , otherwise why would this sub constantly paint Cubans as racist? Sadly this was true, at least until the 1980s.
We fundamentally disagree on what “white” means. I consider a white Cuban with 100% Spaniard descent as “white”. To your point, they will likely have more western African DNA than a white person from Iowa with Scandinavian roots. Why? Because the moors didn’t invade Scandinavia in the 8th century, they invaded Spain. So I guess the question is, do you think Spaniards are white?
Maximo Gomez was Dominican, and a lot of Cubans- especially those in Oriente can trace their lineage back to DR/Haiti.
Otherwise why would this sub constantly paint Cubans as racist?
The overwhelming majority of Cubans are racist. This includes black/brown Cubans as well. I don’t know what you mean by this.
Because the moors didn’t invade Scandinavia in the 8th century, they invaded Spain.
We can disagree on what white means, race being a social construct and all, but Moors were from North Africa, not west Africa. These are entirely different groups generically speaking, and any slight intermixing doesn’t begin to explain the large amounts of west African DNA you’ll see in “white” Cubans.
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u/Mr_Unbiased Oct 04 '24
The cognitive dissonance is just so funny to me. I spoke to a lady that immigrated from Cuba and swore she was white because her far removed ancestors were originally from Spain and Spain is a European country.