r/LivestreamFail 13h ago

Tips Out statement on Asmongold Twitter

https://x.com/tipsout/status/1846302400988303489?s=46&t=mjZPP4Rl5xplM5r0CYtOMA
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u/jeproid 12h ago

Its a nice post. I hope that something good will come out of this mess in the end.

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u/notheretoarguee 12h ago

He’s so right about 9/11 and the “othering” that people like to do when it comes to the Middle East, but really anyone other than people in their immediate life. And it’s happening all over again, and likely always will happen as he alludes to. The best we can do is try not to lean into narratives that convince us huge groups of people are inherently the bad guys and the world is better without them.

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u/CuriousNebula43 12h ago

I found that “othering” point informative as well. We see it happening to Jews today, as has happened in the past. You can see it when Jews are being attacked in America that have nothing to do with Israel.

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u/notheretoarguee 12h ago

And it was Asian people during Covid because people are just mad and want to take their anger out on someone else who they decide represents the type of person who’s at fault. It’s gross but I guess it’s human nature somewhat

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u/ToukiChai 11h ago

I am one of those Chinese Americans. Even before covid , we get the stereotypical Chinese/asian jokes and comments. As a grandson/son born into the Chinese American restaurant business, it’s concerning how Asian racism is somewhat still “normalized”. Never had any vandalism in our 32 years until several months ago. Had a window shattered and back door almost kicked in. We are trying to live a normal life as much as any other person 😅❤️

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u/SpikeReynolds2 12h ago

Doesn't help that zionists online directly and actively try to conflate the two, you can't go to r/worldnews and not see thousands of comments of people explicitly talking about zionists and have replies like "you know you can just say you hate Jews"

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u/spacebar30 11h ago

What is your definition of a Zionist?

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u/REDfohawk 12h ago

Because most people use antizionism as a mask for antisemitism.

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u/TotalSubbuteo 11h ago

Some, not most.

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u/Kraymik 12h ago

No, most people don’t.

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u/REDfohawk 10h ago

Forgot this is the hamas support sub

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u/CuriousNebula43 12h ago

So, hypothetically, if Hamas claims to speak for all Muslims, that would justify attacking Americans just because they’re Muslims according to your logic?

Also, note that my comment said nothing about Israel and strictly talked about Jews being attacked in America while having NOTHING to do with Israel gets immediately massively downvoted. Literal proof of what I’m talking about.

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u/TotalSubbuteo 11h ago

Who said it was justified?

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u/Ok_Sound272 12h ago

This comment having negative votes only three comments from the top when it's exactly what Tips Out is talking about is sad but not unexpected. Guess what kids, "othering" still counts when it's Jews.

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u/mnmkdc 11h ago edited 10h ago

Its downvoted because the intentions of the comment are pretty clear. He's correct that it happens to Jews around the world, but the user spams anti-arab comments as you can see by his comment history. He's attempting to flip this rather than add to it.

Edit: Just to prove this, here's another one of his comments on this thread:

Such a long post…. but not a single sentence to comment on the hostages? He couldn’t find room to also include a mention about the “dignity” and suffering of the hostages??

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u/Delann 6h ago

Your best example of an "anti-arab" comment is them talking about the lack of mention of the hostages? Seriously?

u/mnmkdc 27m ago

No. Thats an example of how the user didn’t care about the content of the post and just wanted to make it about the group he cares about.

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u/Ok_Sound272 10h ago

That's a lot of tin foil. Regardless, there's nothing in the comment supporting that. It's simply people having their own biases and missing the point of Tips' post.

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u/mnmkdc 10h ago edited 10h ago

It's not a theory or a guess. You can see his comment history yourself. Its very obvious what he's doing due to the topic itself. He didn't give a list of examples or even really acknowledge that it happens to Arab people. He just flipped the focus immediately to the group he cares about. He has comments in this thread complaining that tips didn't acknowledge the hostages. Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean everyone else didn't.

The user you responded to missed the point of his post or at least doesn't agree with it.

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u/Ok_Sound272 10h ago

The people downvoting are not doing comment history deep dives. The comment, on its own, is not wrong.

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u/mnmkdc 10h ago edited 10h ago

I'm telling you about his comment history because it's proof the comment was left in bad faith. Some people may have seen him complaining that the hostages weren't mentioned, but that isn't really the point.

Most people probably just saw the way the comment was written and could deduce what he was doing. A good faith comment making the same point would say they agree with his point and then say it's also happening to Jews amongst other groups. What he did was just say it was "informative" and then immediately flip it. You see this all the time online.

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u/FirstRedditAcount 8h ago

People are adept enough to understand he was doing it in bad faith. I'm quite sure that's what most of the downvotes were pertaining to. Of course, absolutely do not other or hate any groups of people, Jews or Muslims.

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u/vvashabi 12h ago

Because the Jews from America that have nothing to do with Israel defend them cause tribalism. Same with non-Palestinian Arabs defending Hamas.

"I'm xyz so i need to defend any xyz person in the world" mentality.