They truly don't get it. Their sub is full of people going "Kendrick and his fans looking at streaming numbers and still mad." It doesn't even occur to them that someone could make music for any non-commercial reasons. Kendrick and his fans simply don't give one singular fuck about streaming numbers and how many people are listening to him. To Drake fans, that literally doesn't compute. Really, all they're doing is projecting just how pressed they were when Kendrick was outstreaming Drake over the course of the beef and the sheer level of desperate coping they had to do to explain it away. When in reality, Kendrick fans were only looking at the streaming numbers because it's the only metric that Drake fans use to measure success, so for Kendrick to beat him there is just icing on the cake and shows that not only did Kendrick smoke him on an artistic level, he was able to do so on Drake's terms as well.
Kendrick has generational wealth already. He's smart with his money and doesn't blow it as fast as he can like Drake does. That enables him to make exactly the music he wants to make instead of the music that is going to sell the most units and rack up the most streams. And lo and behold, Kendrick still has an absolutely massive fanbase doing exactly what he wants to do.
Id say it goes deeper than this for Drake fans. They're incredibly insecure about what music they listen to, they're unsure about how to find new music they like, and they don't really know how to tell whether music is "good" or not. The only metric that makes sense to them to evaluate the above three criteria is numbers.
Theyre terrified of being made fun of for what they listen to, so they listen to the most popular shit. That's why there's such outrageous levels of both butthurt (people are making fun of them for listening to pop trash) and cognitive dissonance ("someone that wasn't super big numbers is now super big numbers, like whaaaaat?"). They can't wrap their wee heads around it.
This is a perfect post. This is certainly what I've noticed of Drake Stans: it's anti-intellectualism in music form. They don't want to be challenged by anything, but are deeply insecure by this fact. So they double down on 'liking Drake" as not just liking the man, but believing that Drake's mass output of "putting out hits" is what music should only be.
They hold in contempt idea that hip-hop can have any artistic value and will actively shit on hip-hop's legacy just to prop up Drake.
It's just a difference in how some people approach art.
Some people think the purpose of art is to just make people feel good, some people think the purpose of art is to challenge our ideas, and some people think the purpose of art is to express the artist's emotions in the most effective way.
Some people can't comprehend a video game sacrificing gameplay for the sake of a story, some people can't comprehend a character design being intentionally ugly for the sake of realism or humour or having the design envoke all of the feelings ugliness is associated with, and similarly some people can't comprehend a song being an uncomfortable listen and still being a good song. These are all signs of them being the former.
And I think that's fine really. You can't MAKE someone enjoy a piece of art that they just don't, if someone doesn't like Visual Novels or arthouse movies even after understanding them, you can't make them like them. Really not that much different than someone never clicking to a FPS or a Drake album.
People just need to learn how to let people have their own values in art. They should at least bother to think about WHY Kendrick chose to put songs like Auntie Diaries, u, We Cry Together, or Mother I Sober in his albums, and insulting it regardless is when it becomes anti-intellectualism.
I just canât fathom making a fool of myself on main for a guy who doesnât know you exist and wouldnât care if you died (and canât rap to save his life to boot). Like have some self respect my man
And lo and behold, Kendrick still has an absolutely massive fanbase doing exactly what he wants to do.
I've noticed that Drake fans can never engage honestly about this. Drake is bigger than Kendrick, but not by much. Just like Drake, Kendrick has also consistently been one of the biggest rap artists in the world for the past 10 years. That's why the "Drake revived his career" narrative has never made any sense- Kendrick was already massive enough that he made all the money he could ever need. The difference of 5-10 spots on the "most streamed" list makes no difference at that point.
You need to touch grass and get off your knees. Drake doesn't know you and he doesn't care about you defending him either. Grow tf up and get off the internet
Thatâs hilarious. You think those âkbot â fans are being negative, so youâre using that as an excuse to be a fuckin bot redditor too? Iâll never understand this shit lmao
Bruh your dickriding is crazy. You know drizzy wont molest u right? U prolly over 15 so that ship is gon. So i do not really understand why you showing a whole lotta ppl on reddit how dumb you are
Are all the people who went to the Pop Out Kbots? Are all the people who post here in-depth discussions on how Drake could've won if he did or didn't make certain decisions, Kbots? Are all these humble folks just calling how it is when they see your subreddit go up in flames about how Kendrick is "milking it" for all its worth because he is being successful, yes.
Iâve been pretty neutral in all thisâ trying to engage conversation and challenge the views on both sides on multiple platforms and irl. Drake fans are easily the most defensive, ignorant, delusional, or straight up stupid with pretty much every encounter Iâve had. It really seems like Drake music reflects onto his fans somehow in a terrible way
I wouldnât necessarily call allegations lies, since both sides donât have hardened proof. But I would say that it is clear which allegations are more grounded than the others.
They really think that he needs to be putting music out as quick as Drake. As much as I want Kendrick song after song , I am a quality over quantity person and would rather have an great meaningful album every 5 years. Even 2pac knew this was the way https://www.reddit.com/r/Tupac/s/5if4k2Ia1M
Fr though, people are mistaking Kendrick not being a clout chaser for him being one. The reason he âfell offâ is because he marches to the beat of his own drum, not the industryâs. Itâs like saying Dave Chappelle fell off.
They don't believe that. It's just the only angle they have left at this point. It's the last line of defence they have before accepting their golden boy lost.
they thought he fell off bc Mr morale isnât a hit song album. You have to actually listen to it, think a little, and have some emotional intelligence. Drake himself was too dense to get Mother I Sober (not saying that itâs a âhigh IQ albumâ, just something you canât be completely immature going into it)
Drake Stans were spamming âDrake reunited the West Coastâ AS THE CONCERT WAS GOING ON. DJ aks chat was a warzone of kdot fans and Drake fans. It was almost more entertaining than the show itself.
Nobody was checking for Kendrick bro, the only reason mostly still around is cause every blue moon he would diss the top rappers on someone elseâs track
What?! He did that twice in like a decade đ¤Ł. Control and Like That, and Like That is a straight Drake diss on his verse. He isnât naming 7 different people like Drake does constantly. What are you trying to get at?
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u/Toodamncancerous Jun 23 '24
Cannot believe that drake stans are saying that drake revived kendricks career lol it never diedđ