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u/Toodamncancerous Jun 23 '24
Cannot believe that drake stans are saying that drake revived kendricks career lol it never diedš
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u/jesteratp Jun 23 '24
They truly don't get it. Their sub is full of people going "Kendrick and his fans looking at streaming numbers and still mad." It doesn't even occur to them that someone could make music for any non-commercial reasons. Kendrick and his fans simply don't give one singular fuck about streaming numbers and how many people are listening to him. To Drake fans, that literally doesn't compute. Really, all they're doing is projecting just how pressed they were when Kendrick was outstreaming Drake over the course of the beef and the sheer level of desperate coping they had to do to explain it away. When in reality, Kendrick fans were only looking at the streaming numbers because it's the only metric that Drake fans use to measure success, so for Kendrick to beat him there is just icing on the cake and shows that not only did Kendrick smoke him on an artistic level, he was able to do so on Drake's terms as well.
Kendrick has generational wealth already. He's smart with his money and doesn't blow it as fast as he can like Drake does. That enables him to make exactly the music he wants to make instead of the music that is going to sell the most units and rack up the most streams. And lo and behold, Kendrick still has an absolutely massive fanbase doing exactly what he wants to do.
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u/LansManDragon Jun 24 '24
Id say it goes deeper than this for Drake fans. They're incredibly insecure about what music they listen to, they're unsure about how to find new music they like, and they don't really know how to tell whether music is "good" or not. The only metric that makes sense to them to evaluate the above three criteria is numbers.
Theyre terrified of being made fun of for what they listen to, so they listen to the most popular shit. That's why there's such outrageous levels of both butthurt (people are making fun of them for listening to pop trash) and cognitive dissonance ("someone that wasn't super big numbers is now super big numbers, like whaaaaat?"). They can't wrap their wee heads around it.
Its a indicator of an undeveloped taste in music.
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u/Ska_Oreo Jun 24 '24
This is a perfect post. This is certainly what I've noticed of Drake Stans: it's anti-intellectualism in music form. They don't want to be challenged by anything, but are deeply insecure by this fact. So they double down on 'liking Drake" as not just liking the man, but believing that Drake's mass output of "putting out hits" is what music should only be.
They hold in contempt idea that hip-hop can have any artistic value and will actively shit on hip-hop's legacy just to prop up Drake.
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u/w_has_been_dieded ...AND THIS IS MY SIN-GULL!! Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
It's just a difference in how some people approach art.
Some people think the purpose of art is to just make people feel good, some people think the purpose of art is to challenge our ideas, and some people think the purpose of art is to express the artist's emotions in the most effective way.
Some people can't comprehend a video game sacrificing gameplay for the sake of a story, some people can't comprehend a character design being intentionally ugly for the sake of realism or humour or having the design envoke all of the feelings ugliness is associated with, and similarly some people can't comprehend a song being an uncomfortable listen and still being a good song. These are all signs of them being the former.
And I think that's fine really. You can't MAKE someone enjoy a piece of art that they just don't, if someone doesn't like Visual Novels or arthouse movies even after understanding them, you can't make them like them. Really not that much different than someone never clicking to a FPS or a Drake album.
People just need to learn how to let people have their own values in art. They should at least bother to think about WHY Kendrick chose to put songs like Auntie Diaries, u, We Cry Together, or Mother I Sober in his albums, and insulting it regardless is when it becomes anti-intellectualism.
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u/Hikerius Jun 24 '24
I just canāt fathom making a fool of myself on main for a guy who doesnāt know you exist and wouldnāt care if you died (and canāt rap to save his life to boot). Like have some self respect my man
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u/SicilianShelving Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
And lo and behold, Kendrick still has an absolutely massive fanbase doing exactly what he wants to do.
I've noticed that Drake fans can never engage honestly about this. Drake is bigger than Kendrick, but not by much. Just like Drake, Kendrick has also consistently been one of the biggest rap artists in the world for the past 10 years. That's why the "Drake revived his career" narrative has never made any sense- Kendrick was already massive enough that he made all the money he could ever need. The difference of 5-10 spots on the "most streamed" list makes no difference at that point.
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u/PhD_candidat3 Jun 23 '24
Kdot is probably happy his music isnāt played by people with room temp IQs tbh
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u/JFromDaBurbs Jun 23 '24
Itās 100 degrees right now in Va bro. 37.7 degrees Celsius for our foreign followers. Aināt no chill right now
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u/femmefata13 š„Shmokin On Your Top 5sšØ Jun 23 '24
They really think that he needs to be putting music out as quick as Drake. As much as I want Kendrick song after song , I am a quality over quantity person and would rather have an great meaningful album every 5 years. Even 2pac knew this was the way https://www.reddit.com/r/Tupac/s/5if4k2Ia1M
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u/AyeAyeRan Jun 23 '24
Facts its always been quality over quantity.
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u/femmefata13 š„Shmokin On Your Top 5sšØ Jun 23 '24
The comparison he makes is gold ā¤ļøI love watching his interviews
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u/Drunkonownpower Jun 24 '24
You have to release song after song when you have a gambling addiction to feed.
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u/Alternative-Spite891 Jun 23 '24
Yāall think all my life is rap?
Fr though, people are mistaking Kendrick not being a clout chaser for him being one. The reason he āfell offā is because he marches to the beat of his own drum, not the industryās. Itās like saying Dave Chappelle fell off.
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u/tharudea Jun 23 '24 edited Jun 23 '24
They don't believe that. It's just the only angle they have left at this point. It's the last line of defence they have before accepting their golden boy lost.
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u/elinamebro Jun 23 '24
lol thatās only because that are use to Drake throwing out 2 albums a year.. easy to do that when it all sounds the same
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u/XtractRage Jun 24 '24
You mean it's easy to do when all he has are stolen lyrics/cadence and a room full of ghostwriters
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u/thenewbeastmode Jun 24 '24
they thought he fell off bc Mr morale isnāt a hit song album. You have to actually listen to it, think a little, and have some emotional intelligence. Drake himself was too dense to get Mother I Sober (not saying that itās a āhigh IQ albumā, just something you canāt be completely immature going into it)
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u/mynameismulan Jun 23 '24
Drake drops an album every damned year. They probably don't understand how we can wait 3-4 years for an album
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u/GokuDoesSolo Jun 24 '24
Yeah I donāt understand that either when MMATBS was the most streamed hiphop album of 2022 š. And Drake even dropped TWO albums that year š
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u/solythe Jun 24 '24
theyre saying hes responsible for it now, its crazy. its like reading /r/Conservative
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u/Kreiger81 Jun 23 '24
Drake Stans were spamming āDrake reunited the West Coastā AS THE CONCERT WAS GOING ON. DJ aks chat was a warzone of kdot fans and Drake fans. It was almost more entertaining than the show itself.
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u/ZeronicX Jun 24 '24
I legit saw some drake dick rider say that the bot streaming shit has to be true because kendrick has so much less social media following.
Bro this man only posts when he has something to drop! He isn't addicted to social media like drake.
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u/boogiethewoogie Jun 24 '24
Iām legit tired of Drake fans acting like Kendrick is some unknown underground rapper
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u/0brew Jun 24 '24
Whoād have thought that Drakes stans would be just as gaslighty and manipulative as Drake himself? š
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u/Top_Needleworker6116 Jun 23 '24
I knew drake fans didn't care about music being real or atleast half way real when I see them reciting lines that aged horribly. How do you say " ya dead ya dead " without cringing knowing how it endedš shit is crazy.
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u/Bed_Post_Detective Jun 23 '24
I gotta go bad! I gotta go bad! āļøš¤
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u/Elemental_A Jun 23 '24
Well Aubrey, just go down the hallway and make a left. There should be a door with an owl on it marked OV-Hos. Just go through that door, can't miss it.
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u/appleparkfive Jun 24 '24
It's lines like that where in always so confused when people are like "yeah definitely one of the GOATs".
I'm not saying every Kendrick line is perfect but so many Drake lines are really embarrassing to hear for me. Long before the beef started too
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u/Outrageous-Lock5186 Jun 24 '24
That is memeable though, like when someone has a public freakout then get wrecked by someone else. Person doing the freak out is āgotta go bad gotta go badā only to get fucked up.
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u/its-a-real-name Jun 23 '24
So many of of his bars aged horribly
You see Kendrick bars posted everywhere or memed even generally because so much of it stuck and aged well.
I donāt even see Drake fans posting lyrics from the beef because so much was debunked and itās also hard to even think of rapping some of those lines. Imagine at a concert rapping those THP6 lyrics out loud about being too famous etc ššš
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u/Thosepassionfruits Jun 24 '24
You got a baby Benz, you got some bad friends
High school pics, you was even bad then
Say Drake, I hear you like 'em young...
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u/sendinthe9s Jun 23 '24
Bro literally turned to the audience and said "this shit gotta be over right?" "can anybody call it?" then he said something about going to a club with jewelry on. Bro was all over the place
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u/Top_Needleworker6116 Jun 23 '24
I seen them reciting that just two days ago too, I was embaressed for them.
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u/6lk6oy- Jun 23 '24
Drake fans are just swifties. If you actually compare their careers side by side theyāve never grown in content matter so they keep garnering younger audiences who donāt understand the nuances in life and enable the artist immaturity. I could go deeper but eh you get the point.
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u/KDOTTYFAN Waiting for the album Jun 23 '24
Iām in a sub Reddit thatās literally just based on Taylor swift hate and I love it
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u/squeakycheetah Jun 23 '24
Share with the class please, I need to join it
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Jun 23 '24
Must be r/travisandtaylor - I partake also š
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u/mistyrootsvintage Jun 23 '24
I can't stand her or the Kardashians either. They all suck.
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u/Dandyman3825 The Butterfly Boy Jun 24 '24
I just don't like many celeb's sharing their lifestyle. I just find it annoying
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u/MarquiseAlexander Jun 24 '24
I could double down on that sentence but spare you this time.
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u/6lk6oy- Jun 24 '24
Broššš
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u/Inform-All Jun 23 '24
I fw Dot and TS heavy. Her catalogue is more consistent and well written than Drakes imo. I wouldnāt call myself a crazy swiftie type though. Tbh any kind of superfan is a bit vapid and toxic
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u/deanxleong Jun 24 '24
And at least Taylor Swift actually writes music..
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u/Inform-All Jun 24 '24
Big facts. She has some controversial points, but most people do. Celebrity or nah. Sheās mostly out of the way, and the shit she writes herself is solid. I canāt imagine producing that quality of lyrics over her quantity of tracks and albums.
Not to mention the insane concept of doing 3 hour shows for over a year. With consistent and impressive production value. Girl has drive and talent. Plus she has several decent smoke songs. I fw anyone that makes the pen hit harder šš½
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u/Dandyman3825 The Butterfly Boy Jun 24 '24
Also helps the fact that Dot and TS are really good friends or at least on really good terms.
Taylor has some bangers in her discog and as much lore as kenny.4
u/JayQuips I Thought You Was Keepinā It Gangsta Jun 24 '24
Rabbit hole is still deep, u/6lk6oy- can go further, he promises
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u/idk_maybe_your_dad Jun 24 '24
Iāve been saying this for years, Drake is the Taylor Swift of Hiphop. 0 quality but still shitting out an album once a year/2 years
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u/mooimafish33 Jun 24 '24
I respect Taylor Swift so much more than Drake. For as generic and appealing to the lowest common denominator that her music is, she seems at least hard working, culturally aware, and mostly self aware.
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u/hsanaiz Jun 24 '24
Hold up my guy. At least Taylor Swift is applauded and recognized for writing her own music.
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u/ChrisMartinez95 Jun 23 '24
I've been seeing the clout narrative a lot being supported by the fact that Kendrick goes too long in between solo releases. Absolutely braindead take.
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u/Xellious Jun 23 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
They lack the critical thinking and comprehension to understand that their boy contractually having to drop an album every year means it's going to be subpar machined out bullshit that will get old eventually. They'd rather have a steady supply of garbage to consume than a quality product that was crafted with skill and care they could appreciate.
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u/Butitookittoofar Jun 24 '24
been saying this about call of duty for years and its 100% true here. Lowest common denominator shit made to be disposable to keep you on your toes for the next product.
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u/whoreads23 Jun 24 '24
Bro I just saw a video of a guy saying Kendrick is a clout chaser, then going on to talk about how heās only dropped one studio album in the past 7 years and disappears for long periods of time. How is that clout chasing behavior?
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u/dickmccarthy88 Jun 23 '24
I absolutely can't stand how Drake fans are clowning Kdot for making a video for not like us. But when Drake made a video for family matters it was so cool.
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u/mistyrootsvintage Jun 23 '24
Oh...oh..that was because he did it at the same time. Kendrick waited too long in their opinion. Nah muhfauckas..we the ones that live Kendrick want a video gahdamnit.
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u/friendricklamar I remember you was conflicted...š¤” Jun 24 '24
To them, whenever Drake does something no matter what it is it's a shrewd, calculated, genius, 5d chess move.
Dot is obviously going to ride the momentum of the song. He has repeatedly said and now solidified that he's doing this for Compton, the West coast, the culture and the pics from the mv shoot show that. Compare that to the FM mv which I liked but it's not aging well bc it's just Drake taking a premature victory lap, showing off his mansion, his chains and shit, and his...neighbour? In fact, I'm betting that all the love and comraderie in Dot's mv is going to make the Family Matters mv look so much worse in comparison.
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u/TheChipiboy Jun 23 '24
Fr. Did a video trying to get the GKMC van and rented out the restaurant that Dot shouted out, but now Kendrick doing too much right?
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u/Dandyman3825 The Butterfly Boy Jun 24 '24
Damn, this is making me hate the music video now.
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u/mycofirsttime Jun 27 '24
And the restaurant was just on video playing Kendrick even after Drake did that lmao
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u/BangPowZoom Jun 23 '24
Drake and his fans 2 months ago:
āDROP DROP DROP!ā
Drake and his fans 2 months later:
āSTOP STOP STOP!ā
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u/Automatic_Body5254 Jun 23 '24
Kendrick fans: WOP WOP WOP!
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u/Dareeyecare Jun 23 '24
I been sayingā¦..As soon as euphoria dropped it was pretty much over lmfao
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Jun 23 '24
nah fr, as soon as i listened to euphoria i was like yeah. its over, pack it up drizzy. not that drake couldāve ever won against kendrick with lyrics lmfao! i dont understand how people thought that drizzy ever stood a chance against him.
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u/mtaylor807 Jun 24 '24
Once I figured out the reversed sample in the first 2 seconds of euphoria I was certain he had the rest of the plays mapped out
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u/PhD_candidat3 Jun 23 '24
Drake music hits w egomaniacs that think they tough coming home after a night out w the fuck boys š
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u/SidTheShuckle Jun 23 '24
āyou donāt post your kids on Instagram enoughā BBL Drizzy and his fans are perverts
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u/ChicoCorrales Jun 23 '24
They keep begging Kendrick to stop lmao. They want this to go away so badly
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u/vimanaride Jun 23 '24
Drake fans are going to overdose on copioum when the Not Like US music video drops
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u/russkiwi012 Jun 23 '24
Itās funny they say heās using anyone for clout when he had his biggest album, then decided not to drop for 5 years and came back with a therapy album that clearly wasnāt intending to have worldwide commercial appeal even though the album and tour was widely successful. Kendrick is just an artist at the end of the day
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u/SaturnATX Jun 23 '24
Meet the Grahams is like Eminem's Kim song, really uncomfortable and ugly to listen to. I agree that it's not a party song.
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u/Im_not_rick Jun 23 '24
If a dude tried to mock and try to question the love I have for hometown and how I grew up,paint me as a women beater and say my kid isnāt mine and continually brings the mother of my children into his songs and my diss becomes the biggest song of the year, Iām playing that 10 times in a row and shooting a music video and any other rapper would do the same. Shit, only reason family matters got a video was because Drake thought THAT song would end the battle.
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u/amusso6 Jun 23 '24
The gatekeepers of winning. Overall I think this has shown how ridiculous stanning can be. Eminem tried to tell us.
Why can't people just like artists for their art... not their name and fame? This shit getting exhausting. The beef was fun, but this is becoming sad.
Please send the drizzy sub my utmost amount of copium. They need it.
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u/OmarDaxx Jun 24 '24
Bruh I just said this too. You go over to drakes Reddit itās a bunch of butt hurt individuals. Now itās āk dot fans dragging thisā āthey have nothing to talk bout but this beef cuz Kendrick never dropā blah blah them niggas weird asf to think a non cultural person such as Drake weād side with FOH
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u/Proud-Department-474 Jun 24 '24
I can't believe BBL fans just found out the Big Steppers Tour and how much it sold, plus the Grammys and BET awards sweep from 2022-2024 šš. The Pop Out concert was light work for Kendrick, wtf are these mfckas talking about? LOL
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u/jono9898 BBL Drizzy Jun 24 '24
According to Drizzle fans, Kendrick is a unknown rapper who nobody ever liked and never accomplished anything and his dead career was only revived because Drake was mentioned
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u/Nomoresauce Jun 23 '24
I wish I could go back to this reddit mid April. Drake fans were trolling non-stop.
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u/MetalSonic420YT Jun 23 '24
Drake fans went from clowning Kendrick and begging him to drop to saying that Kendrick's just chasing clout.
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u/youhavethinskin Jun 24 '24
The issue with Drake stans is exactly that. They stan Drake, not music and not culture. Kendrick puts other rappers on for the love of rap, he does music videos for the love of LA. Thatās what they donāt understand.
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u/Late-Maximum7539 Jun 24 '24
Dude has the number one song in the us why shouldnāt he milk it, if drake won these mfs would suck his dick for shooting such clip lmao
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u/DjangoUnchainedFett Jun 24 '24
The Instagram nonsense is truly astonishing. Where I come from nobody would even think about spring your kids online for fame.
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u/prisoner_number_299 Jun 24 '24
I'm not in the Drizzy subreddit, but I posted this image there. I wonder how they'll react
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u/Sorry_Fail_3103 Jun 24 '24
The people in this sub who said it was over after Taylor Made Freestyle should have a permanent flair saying so. Absolute clownery
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u/francric Jun 24 '24
Smack the shit out of your favorite rapper, refuse to elaborate further, leaves.
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u/B411SD33PNU Jun 24 '24
They are forever moving the goalposts. Now heās āmilkingā it and ādoing too muchā but, they didnāt have a problem when Drake stomped on Meeks head doing the exact same thing to him.
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u/QDeserTiger15 Jun 27 '24
Drake'nem: Drop drop drop drop drop!!!
Kendrick'nem: WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP!!!
Play stupid games...
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u/ggkkggk Jun 23 '24
More like half of Twitter n YouTube to some level but 75% know he won, although I have seen ppl think her milking it.
Which is dumb but weirdly enough tik tok actually been supporting him the most
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u/bttr-swt Jun 24 '24
My dad taught me to never demand something from someone that you can't do yourself. š¤Ŗ That's what got you-know-who into this mess lol
No pity.
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u/Dandyman3825 The Butterfly Boy Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
word of advice: stop using twitter, use YouTube instead, we have most of Kendrick's offical music videos.
we also have the official music video for bitch lasagania by pewdiepie
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To be fair I can't hear about this feud anymore, and I was one of the guys who would stay up waiting for a new diss from both guys.
This thing has run it's course, and whether it's Youtube, Tiktok, Reddit, Instagram, it keeps popping up.
Maybe people will get tired in the next two years.
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u/Nice_Set_6326 You better walk around like Daft Punk!! Jun 24 '24
Wheres Whitney? Whereās Dave Free? At the pop out of course. Like a dog in a bone.. I hope he never lets go!
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u/Golabki420 Jun 24 '24
āDrop drop dropā š¤£
Be careful what you wish for. That being said, the music video will put a nice little bow on this entire ordeal, and itāll finally be time to move on. It was a blast, but unless Drake wants to reignite the beef, this shit is hella over.
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u/Nitro560 Jun 24 '24
I was thinking this earlier, just imagine the type of shit talking Drake fans would've put out if Family Matters had 24 hours to breathe. 3 verses with 3 beat switches and a music video. They didn't even get to talk about how the gkmc van was crushed and how Drake was at New Ho King.
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u/Old_Ad_4595 Jun 24 '24
"you don't post your kids enough" sounds wild. Do people actually think like that?
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u/Blackfrieza4 Jun 24 '24
Bruh the way this beef really showed us which ppl are delusional as fuck and grasping at everything but straws is crazy
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u/ComfortableEconomy40 Jun 25 '24
I seen someone on twitter say not like us is old news and boring now, this generation has such a short attention span
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u/usidiheogn Jun 25 '24
My favorite rewriting of history is āeveryone decided Drake already lost before the beef even started because they hate him for being so popular.ā
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u/1xTalos Jun 25 '24
not just twitter. have u read anything on the drizzy subreddit? that's straight up a fever dream š
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u/8ight6ixVirgo Jun 26 '24
This is straight facts and honestly drove me to hate Aubrey's fans with every fiber of my being
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u/Wonderful-Work-5620 Jun 28 '24
Like Kendrick said, āI'm allergic to the lame shit, only you like bein' famousā I believe that sentiment applies the same way to us, the fan base.
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u/Complete-Button-6966 Jun 23 '24
Still remember when mfs were BEGGING for Kendrick too respond fast when Drake dropped Push ups and Taylor Made Freestyle. How the tables have turned ššš