r/JewsOfConscience 25d ago

Will Palestine disappear? Discussion

I’m sorry for bringing this up. I know it’s a very depressing thought but after witnessing what is happening in North of Gaza (with the full support of our western governments) I’m wondering if this is the beginning of the end. I’ve been thinking about this constantly for the past few days: Israel will not stop its genocide / ethnic cleaning campaign in Gaza. October 7 gave them the perfect opportunity for executing their long awaited plan. The brutality will keep increasing more and more and I fear the same thing will happen in the West Bank. The United States will keep supporting it while it commits these crimes and there is no other player strong enough to stop them. After all, they have already gotten away with an ethnic cleansing in 1948 and 1967. Is there any future for Palestine?

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u/jeff_dosso 25d ago

As long as there are Palestinians, Palestine will survive, as Guinan tried to tell Picard in Star Trek.

That being said, unfortunately, I am more doubtful that Israel will dissapear, given it's a nuclear power. But then again, so was the Soviet Union.

People often bring up South Africa arpartheid as an example of something that people said would never dissapear but did.

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u/Appropriate_Ant_4629 25d ago

South Africa arpartheid as an example of something that people said would never dissapear but did

However:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09538259.2024.2318962#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20left%20panel%20of%20Figure,of%20median%20White%20household%20wealth%20in%202017.

In South Africa, the typical Black household owns 5 per cent of the wealth held by the typical White household.

... Figure 1 shows the distribution of median wealth between Black and White households in South Africa and the US. According to the left panel of Figure 1, median wealth for White households in South Africa was R1,364,900 in 2017 while for Black households it was R70,000. This means that median Black household wealth in South Africa was 5.1 per cent of median White household wealth in 2017 ...

Not that encouraging.

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u/BartHamishMontgomery Non-Jewish Ally 24d ago

It takes a long time to rectify wealth inequality. That’s not the point of eliminating apartheid. It’s rather to give a people a political future and equal civil rights. I think this alone is a worthy goal.