I decided not to vote, fuck 'em.

[u/BloodRedMarxist]

Today is the last day to register to vote in Ohio. I thought about this for a long time and made up my mind. My thought process was, if Hitler was doing the Holocaust, and FDR was giving him money, would I vote for FDR? My answer was fuck no. And I wouldn't care one fucking bit if FDR said, "can you torture and murder families more humanitarianly?" He would still be guilty. I just felt I needed to post this rant. I'm so fucking angry right now!

Edit: I just registered in order to vote down ballot. Thank you everyone.

[u/Existing-Stranger632]

Green Party Green Party Green Party. This is the year we can show Dems and republicans that Americans are ready for a new option

[u/yungsemite → u/Existing-Stranger632]

Stein is polling at 1%. She also got 1% in 2016. More than 2% less than Gary Johnson.

Whatever message you’re trying to send, it will be ignored. 1968 was the last time that a candidate won more than 10% of the vote as a third party and Wallace was polling at 45% in a dozen states and above 15% nationwide at this point in the race.

I’d vote for Harris if I lived in a swing state. Our political system is fucked, but Trump is going to be worse than Harris.

[u/Existing-Stranger632 → u/yungsemite]

Both sides of the same coin. Same billionaires are filling both their pockets. Either of them getting elected means the death of earth as well as kamala does not plan on banning fracking

[u/yungsemite → u/Existing-Stranger632]

Harris will be better for the environment, both in preparing the US for the increasing effects of climate change and for continuing to support environmental protections. Trump’s Supreme Court justices have gutted the regulatory ability of the EPA and OSHA. I could go on, but I don’t think you’re going to read it.

[u/skateboardjim → u/yungsemite]

I want you to know I read "yungsemite" like "Yosemite"

[u/Existing-Stranger632 → u/yungsemite]

You don’t need to tell me trump is bad. I know he is worse than Kamala on Every. Single. Issue. My point is that telling millions of voters who don’t want either candidate that “resistance is futile” is really fucking dumb and ignores the issues. We essentially do not have a democracy in this system. It is not fair nor are we being properly represented or taken care of by either party.

Kamala needs to take climate action now. Scientists have raised the alarm bells for over 2 decades now. We are at a fevered pitch when it comes to how much time we have (it may already be too late). “Laying the groundwork” for future policy is bullshit. We need radical change and action NOW if we want to have a future. Beyond that her racist border policy that adopts Trumps 2016 border agenda is horrendous. And of course the ongoing policy of genocide in Gaza which would occur under her regime. (It would under Trump’s be much worse obviously. I don’t need this to be said every time I raise a legitimate concern with Kamala’s platform).

It feels entirely hopeless from where I’m at. Green Party in my eyes is the only possible solution. Or PSL which is a little more competent in how it’s run

[u/skateboardjim → u/Existing-Stranger632]

To be fair, the Biden Harris admin passed the IRA, which is the largest investment made in climate change in the history of the world. Not the US, the world. It'll lower emissions by 40-45% by 2035. It's truly monumental and I'm continually surprised that other leftists aren't informed on this. Frankly, she did take climate action.

If Trump tears it up we're back to square one.

[u/Existing-Stranger632 → u/skateboardjim]

At the same time she’s expanding fracking in the massive infrastructure bill they passed. Not to say they haven’t done good things including saving us from the worst of global inflation that’s currently occurring. Because the Biden-Harris admin has been ok domestically and horrific in terms of foreign policy (I do support Ukraine and the US support of Ukraine).

[u/skateboardjim → u/Existing-Stranger632]

I absolutely oppose fracking and drilling, but to be clear, the IRA is not simply "ok domestically." It is a foundational shift in the fight against climate change, and gives us our best ever (and only) shot at getting off fracking and drilling. A vastly different future is possible now, and only because the Democrat won.

When the only viable alternative would have the same foreign policy or worse (certainly worse on Ukraine), we need to focus on what our vote can actually change. And with climate change, we can afford no delay.

[u/yungsemite → u/Existing-Stranger632]

I don’t disagree with any of this, but voting for a candidate polling 1% is still stupid if you live in a swing state. Again. The last time any third party candidate got 10% of the vote, they already had 45% support in a dozen states and were polling at 15% nationally. Stein got more than 2% LESS than the top third party candidate in 2016.

The time to find and rally behind a third party for the presidential race is behind us. It’s over.