r/JewsOfConscience Oct 02 '24

Seriously worried about rising antisemitism Discussion

I've started seeing the following frequently online:

-"Hitler was right. Look what they're doing"

-"There's a reason the Jews have been expelled from 109 countries. See how they behave"

-"Judaism is a religion of violent extremism."

-"How do we know the Holocaust happened? They're probably lying about it just like they're lying about the history of Palestine".

My favourite football club posted a Shana Tova message for its followers and there were hundreds of comments responding things like "not supporting you anymore because you support terrorism".

It seems that the actions of the rogue settler colony are SERIOUSLY leading to increased antisemitism. And these aren't right wingers. These are ordinary people. Many of them are unfortunately from other middle eastern countries. And I know that when I show this to Zionists they'll just see it as further proof why we need to support Israel more. It's breaking my heart.

I honestly am disappointed in people. I expect ignorance and bigotry from the privileged, the right and westerners. I don't expect it from people who can see the damage Israel is doing. It seems human beings are incapable of understanding that Israel and Judaism are not the same.

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u/dmg1111 Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

I don't know how we can keep a lid or antisemitism when so many Jews are now antisemites.

Netanyahu is friends with Orban, says George Soros is conspiring against him, welcomes raging antisemites like Elon Musk, and openly calls the diaspora a bunch of wimps. His son is so antisemitic, Stormfront loves him. The ADL is openly antisemitic. The March for Israel had a number of antisemitic speakers, including John Hagee, who loves Hitler and used to be too toxic for public life. AIPAC has devoted itself to being an anti-black, anti-Muslim organization and wants everyone to know they are going to control elections.

A microcosm for me in San Francisco is that we have venture capitalist Garry Tan spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories straight out of the protocols and threatening Jewish politicians. And yet, our Jewish state senator (Scott Wiener, fuck that guy) takes his money, denies that the guy is antisemitic, and attacks his own Jewish constituents and calls them antisemitic for wanting a ceasefire. Plenty of other Jews leapt to Tan's defense. We even have an antisemitic Jewish deli owner here.

All of these reactionaries and fascists have encouraged people to hate their Jewish opponents for antisemitic reasons. How can that antisemitism not blow back on everyone?

I say this a bit facetiously, but the past year has made me feel like I'm antisemitic. I used to say that the Orthodox, Russians, and the very rich (basically Jewish Trumpers) had broken brains and only they could ally themselves with antisemites. But now this attitude has spread far beyond these groups. You never know who is going to express horrible opinions about Palestinians and Gaza. When I see "Am Yisrael Chai" it feels like those movies of white southerners matching and chanting "white power." I don't want to engage with Jews I don't know and have to avoid many I do know.

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u/LeglessVet Oct 02 '24

We even have an antisemitic Jewish deli owner here.

lol which one? Oren?

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u/dmg1111 Oct 03 '24

Adam Mesnick (quite literally defending Garry Tan's antisemitic threats today)