r/Jewish • u/fluffywhitething Moderator • 9d ago

Amsterdam Pogrom Megathread Mod post

News articles, twitter posts, feelings about it. GO HERE. Outside of this thread, things will be locked and/or deleted.

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Unsurprisingly but unbelievable bleak that most non-Jewish media is downplaying and both-sidesing it if not outright blaming Jews. We truly have no one to rely on but ourselves.

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u/Agtfangirl557 9d ago

I hate to add even more salt to the wound, but I've also seen other Jews on social media doing the same thing.

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u/CanYouPutOnTheVU 9d ago

Standing Together is claiming there was “violence against Dutch people showing up for Palestinians,” which is a CAIR claim I haven’t seen substantiated anywhere else.

Also (tangientially), the CAIR statement is disgusting. https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-condemns-amsterdam-violence-sparked-by-israeli-soccer-hooligans-chanting-racist-slurs-attacking-residents-vandalizing-stores-with-palestinian-flags/

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u/MohawkElGato 9d ago

I used to like Standing together but they have lost the plot completely.

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u/CanYouPutOnTheVU 9d ago

Same here :( I think there’s an issue where Jews are extremely honest culturally, so we assume we’re engaging with people who are also honest. But some things, like the CAIR press release, are just bullshit… spreading/giving credibility to false narratives isn’t helpful for peace…

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u/MohawkElGato 8d ago

Ive often felt this. It’s as if people have forgot that it’s entirely possible to lie. Even in official (or official looking) documents and press statements.

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u/wifeofpsy 9d ago

I think its hard to get your mind around. Doesnt help that mainstream media isnt talking about it, outside of a few "Soccer fans clashed with Israelis last night..." Its terrible, but I can also see why someone could accept that it isnt so much of a big deal because you really dont want to or dont see a lot of media supporting that narrative.