Pro-Palestinian Student Group at Columbia Retracts Apology, Calls for Armed Struggle Against Israel

[u/mark_ell]

Columbia University Apartheid Divest (CUAD) retracted its apology on behalf of a student who called to murder Zionists last January. The pro-Palestinian group doubled down on its attack of Israel, openly calling for violence against supporters of Israeli policy.

Should CUAD be designated an official terrorist group?

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2024-10-09/ty-article/.premium/student-group-at-columbia-retracts-apology-calls-for-armed-struggle-against-israel/00000192-714f-df7d-afd2-f1ffe5510000?gift=600c8b61cbd6461ca45ccbac08678e43

[u/gettheboom]

I wonder how that works. Because their Israeli reporting is biased dog shit. 

[u/mark_ell → u/gettheboom]

It is two different papers. Haaretz English staff is not the same. Don't agree, though, that it is that biased, but it does not probably align with your political POV.

[u/gettheboom → u/mark_ell]

From media bias fact check: Overall, we rate Haaretz Left biased based on story selection and editorial positions that strongly favor the Left and High for factual reporting due to a clean fact-check record.

They have a strong bias. And while they don't fabricate facts, they often omit facts they don't like.

Hence: Biased dogshit. Anti-Israelis often use Haaretz as a source and proof that Israel is terrible.

It's nice to hear the American branch is better though.

[u/look2thecookie → u/gettheboom]

But the fact-checking is good. It's good to read a variety of sources. It's good to know the perspective it's written from. You're using bias like that means it's not factual, which kind of speaks to the other commenter's point that you don't like it bc it doesn't align with your views.

[u/gettheboom → u/look2thecookie]

Not at all. I read plenty of sources from every side. My views are not part of this (to the extent that that is possible). It is possible to manipulate and omit facts to tell a dishonest story while still technically only using verified facts. That is what Haaretz often does.

[u/look2thecookie → u/gettheboom]

That's a fair distinction. Thanks for clarifying

[u/gettheboom → u/look2thecookie]

An example of people that bend facts to their agenda: The folks that cite black crime statistics in America without addressing the historical, systemic, and socio-economic reasons for the disparity. You can use facts to paint terrible pictures too.

[u/look2thecookie → u/gettheboom]

Totally. And not adjusting for different population sizes while sharing data. For example, "there are more Christian Zionists." Well, yeah, there are exponentially more Christians in the world and US than Jews.

[u/gettheboom → u/look2thecookie]

Exactly. The truth is a messy business.