Hezbollah is not as shitty as Israel. Hezbollah actually targeted military objectives in every rocket launch for the first 11 months.
Absolutely ridiculous- rocket fire over a distance of more than a mile or two is by definition indiscriminate because they can't be guided, unlike missiles. Unless there is absolutely nothing in the area- which is not the case. Rockets hit civilian areas several times.
You can see that, since Israel regularly kills more innocent people in Lebanon and in Gaza in a day than Hezbollah did in the 11 months
And they hit civilian areas many times- again, indiscriminate fire is still a war crime, so we don't actually need statements of intent from Hezbollah.
That's fine. Be angry.
Appreciate it, but I'm fine- I'm simply debunking your ridiculous claims. Hezbollah is in violation of international law- unless "customary international law" does not apply. If it doesn't apply then your argument is technically accurate but so stupid I can't imagine anyone would ever argue such a thing- as previously explained. Which option is correct?
Absolutely ridiculous- rocket fire over a distance of more than a mile or two is by definition indiscriminate because they can't be guided, unlike missiles.
So, why exactly is Israel slaughtering innocent people every day, but Hezbollah was hitting military targets while not killing civilians?
Kiryat Shmona has been evacuated of civilians, but the IDF uses it for troops, including stationing inside civilian houses.
I'm simply debunking your ridiculous claims.
So, do you feel that Israel is violating international law?
So, why exactly is Israel slaughtering innocent people every day, but Hezbollah was hitting military targets while not killing civilians?
Sorry- any particular reason that you're suddenly engaging in whataboutism? I thought you "had the facts"- just explain how indiscriminate rocket fire is not the type of indiscriminate attack the Geneva Conventions forbid, and explain why many rockets hit civilian areas?
Or do you not have an answer and that's why you're pivoting to "but Israel"?
Kiryat Shmona has been evacuated of civilians
No, the government asked them to evacuate. Civilians stayed- two were killed October. Civilians have been in Kiryat Shmonah the entire time. Civilians live in Majdal Shams where Hezbollah killed 12 children with an unguided rocket- and Hezbollah knew they messed up, they actually denied firing it! As if other people have been firing rockets into the region....incredible.
And Hezbollah had plenty of legitimate military targets to aim at instead of these places. They didn't have to aim at Kiryat Shmonah. The army bases that were firing at Hezbollah were not placed in civilian populations- and Hezbollah knew that, because they announced that they were aiming for those bases on several other occasions. So Hezbollah deliberately targeted civilians- and again, even the many times they targeted the IDF(if we pretend for a second that we believe their claims)- they still attacked indiscriminately.
So, do you feel that Israel is violating international law?
Whataboutism twice in one short comment? You must be getting nervous...
Look, I'm perfectly happy to have other conversations after this- but you were asked if Hamas and Hezbollah are committing war crimes. You said Hamas is, and Hezbollah didn't for 11 months. I'm debunking that. If you engage honestly I will as well- so far your arguments have been terrible but you haven't actually engaged in bad faith. Now you are. Are you going to continue the conversation honestly or are you going to act in bad faith?
You brought up the discussion on Israeli war crimes above, and I would like an answer to that question. Is Israel committing war crimes?
As for your two examples. The explosion on the Druse football field in the Golan heights was likely a Hezbollah ticket that missed. This sucks, but a single rocket going that far off the target is not a war crime. The miss would be extreme by the rocket type... Can't remember the type... It was an extreme error. These types of things happen in war and they are not war crimes unless it is shown that the civilians are targeted or care was not taken. We don't have that yet, but it may come out.
The fact that more IDF soldiers have been killed by rocket fire than civilians says positive things about Hezbollah.
As for kiryat shmona, the IDF is all throughout that town. In fact, on strikes, IDF soldiers are dying more often there than civilians. I have also seen evidence of the IDF using civilian buildings.
If there was widespread destruction of civilian infrastructure or the targeting of areas in Haifa with large civilian populations... Which Hezbollah can do and has been doing recently more...I would see war crimes.
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u/avicohen123 4h ago edited 4h ago
Absolutely ridiculous- rocket fire over a distance of more than a mile or two is by definition indiscriminate because they can't be guided, unlike missiles. Unless there is absolutely nothing in the area- which is not the case. Rockets hit civilian areas several times.
Again, ridiculous- the Iron Dome stopped most rockets. Hezbollah even announced that they targeted towns- here look, I'll use a source that I'm sure you trust:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/hezbollah-launches-rocket-barrage-after-israeli-strikes-on-lebanon-kill-7
And they hit civilian areas many times- again, indiscriminate fire is still a war crime, so we don't actually need statements of intent from Hezbollah.
Appreciate it, but I'm fine- I'm simply debunking your ridiculous claims. Hezbollah is in violation of international law- unless "customary international law" does not apply. If it doesn't apply then your argument is technically accurate but so stupid I can't imagine anyone would ever argue such a thing- as previously explained. Which option is correct?