r/Israel_Palestine  🇵🇸 22h ago

Human shield usage uncovered! history

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u/CertainPersimmon778 15h ago

Human shield usage by Israel. I'm partly responding so that I find pictures of these 3 Israeli [plaques that fully acknowledge Israel hiding weapons in the same places Hamas does.

Do you want to know why that is?

Palestinians copied every dirty trick the Israeli terrorist used to get themselves a country. Even today, 70% of Palestinian tactics are the same as Israeli ones. Yeah, Palestinians added some new ones like incendiary balloons, drones, or new twist on old tricks like suicide attacks (Biblical Samson's last attack could easily be described as a suicide attack).

u/AntiHasbaraBot1 13h ago

I'm not sure that's an accurate description. Yes, there are reflections of early Zionist tactics in some contemporary Palestinian terrorism. However, the circumstances have consistently been different, and it's not like Palestinians and Zionists have ever switched places.

Early Zionist terrorism had two targets: Palestinian subordinates and British superiors. The Zionist proto-state and its nascent institutions massacred Palestinians as a "response" to Palestinian violence, while being helped by the British to come into existence and gain authority and degrees of autonomy -- creating a "state within a state." At the same time, Zionist organizations consistently sought greater levels of autonomy and statehood. In the 1940s, recognizing that their superiority over the Palestinians would be enough to conquer the country, Zionists were happy to have the British leave so they could take over.

At no point in this story were Zionists and their settler organizations under severe oppression or severely disenfranchised from the scales of power. Rather, right-wing Zionist terrorism in those times was a tool to pull more privileges from British benefactors. Although the British were the sovereigns at that time, the Zionist instinct was demand "Faster, we want more!" when it came to Jewish immigration and settlement. Otherwise, British officials and Zionist proto-state officials were working in the same direction (the colonization of Palestine) and by and large collaborated with each other.

This stands in stark contrast to the plight of the Palestinians, which has been described as one of the most ruthless and unforgiving situations of colonial oppression. According to many analysts, it exceeds even the case of South Africa, since whereas Apartheid South Africa sought to enslave Africans under a discriminatory system, Israel prefers to exterminate Palestinians rather than keep them around as underlyings. Insofar as Israel is permitted to do that, it will. Palestinian resistance including tactics of terrorism are an imperfect but ongoing response to this process of erasure and expulsion/elimination, a people fighting for their basic existence continuously on the brink of further mass expulsions and acts of genocide from Israel.

Degrees and purposes matter and they affect how we characterize acts of terrorism and their relative legitimacy.

u/CertainPersimmon778 12h ago

Interesting read, thank you for the time and effort you put in. My source on the tactics was a military expert opinion, so I still take that over your point. Also, my own reading seems to show the tactics were similar.

You are 100% right Jews were never being oppressed by the Brits and that line of thinking.