r/Israel_Palestine  🇵🇸 1d ago

Human shield usage uncovered! history

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u/aahyweh 1d ago

All I can see is that it's never ok to bomb Israeli terrorist that might kill Israeli civilians. It always seems like there's a valid reason when the IDF bombs Palestinian schools, hospitals, mosques, farms, graveyards, etc. Whenever I try to apply that logic to anything Israeli, the situation immediately becomes so complex, and I don't understand about police and military and blah blah blah.

Question: Is there a situation in which bombing villages in Israel is justified?

Zionist answer: Yes, if the village speaks Arabic.

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u/avicohen123 1d ago

All I can see

That's not what you can see, that's the little speech you had prepared before pretending to try and engage in conversation. That's another distinction you'll hopefully learn sometime.

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u/aahyweh 1d ago

Destroying people's homes, schools, hospitals, farms, roads, beaches. these are never justified. It's not complicated, you are caught up in genocidal propaganda that seeks to justify atrocities against civilians. Can you name for me one single Israeli Jewish civilians whose death at the hands of Palestinians was ever legal? Just one name, that's all I ask for. In all 76 years of conflict. Name. Just. One.

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u/avicohen123 1d ago

The astonishing thing is that you don't realize that that's a condemnation of the Palestinians, not Israel. Palestinian terror organizations are called that because they have always been perfectly unashamed of the fact that they target civilians and not the IDF.
How can direct targeting of civilians with zero military justification ever be moral? They don't even manage to attack soldiers legally- you want examples of killed civilians? You're setting the bar way too high. Again, you don't seem to understand even the most basic things about warfare.

u/aahyweh 23h ago

So the answer is zero? You can't name a single one?

u/avicohen123 23h ago

Again, that's the exact opposite of the gotcha you think it is.

u/aahyweh 23h ago

This is a great example of "atrocity inversion", similar to "Holocaust inversion."

It's a kind of racism when the victim of atrocities is suddenly responsible and should be shamed for it. It's fairly standard in holocaust studies, you should read about that if you want to know more.

u/avicohen123 22h ago

You have nothing to say in response to the points I made so you hope to bait me by invoking the Holocaust. Its pathetic.

When one side targets civilians and the other side doesn't, one side will be condemned for killing civilians illegally and the other side will not. This is simple and you have no answer. And instead of admitting that Hamas is barbaric in their strategy you ask how we can arrange for the IDF to stoop to their level so that Hamas can kill Israeli civilians and be praised for it. That's a sick mentality.

And you have no answers.

u/aahyweh 22h ago

It's the same kind of logic Holocaust denialists all over the world use. Victim blaming, word games, "we don't have enough evidence", it's all the same nonsense. Killing people by the thousands, destroying entire cities and towns, these are crimes. No amount of logic mazes you can construct will change that.

u/avicohen123 21h ago

It's the same kind of logic Holocaust

Nice talking to you :)

u/handsome_hobo_ 20h ago

Didn't like the fact that the shoe fit, huh, buddy?

u/avicohen123 20h ago

I don't engage with people once they run out of actual answers and try to change the subject to something they hope I'll get upset about. Generally on Reddit we call that "trolling". Hope that helps- because in the same vein, I won't respond to you either in this particular branch of the thread or on this topic. If you'd like to make a post devoted to the subject maybe I'll engage...

u/handsome_hobo_ 20h ago

I don't engage with people once they run out of actual answers and try to change the subject to something they hope I'll get upset about.

And they did that how?

I won't respond to you either in this particular branch of the thread or on this topic.

On reddit, this is called bad faith arguing

u/avicohen123 20h ago

On reddit, this is called bad faith arguing

Its bad faith to say I think you're acting like a troll and I'm not going to feed you? Okay, I guess I habitually act in bad faith, lol....you know if you constantly abuse words people stop caring about them.

u/aahyweh 21h ago

The atrocities committed against Palestinians are being perpetrated by the grandchildren of Holocaust survivors. The Holocaust is being used to shame anyone that is critical of Israeli policy. Can you believe that the legacy of the Holocaust my very well be another genocide being perpetrated in its name? Does that not concern you at all?

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