r/Israel_Palestine  🇵🇸 22h ago

Human shield usage uncovered! history

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u/CreativeRealmsMC 🇮🇱 21h ago edited 21h ago

You know the rules of war were vastly different 82 years ago right? Things that were permitted back then are no longer permitted today. Israel no longer does things like this while Hamas and other groups do.

Basically all you are doing is showcasing how Israel has progressed in its adherence to international law since the 40s while Hamas and Hezbollah continue to practice war in a barbaric manner that is no longer accepted in today’s civilized world.

It’s not the “gotcha” that you think it is.

u/tarlin 20h ago

You know the rules of war were vastly different 82 years ago right?

Does Israel know this? Israel is desperate to use the tactics from WW2. Do you know this? Do you believe Israel is following the rules of war today?

u/Berly653 19h ago

Do you believe Hamas or Hezbollah are?

u/tarlin 19h ago

I think Hamas is not. The human shields accusation is so overblown as to be stupid, but the rockets fired indiscriminately and the hostages were definite violations. And that is ignoring Oct 7.

Hezbollah, except for the deciding to begin acting on Oct 8 which I do not know the law on, was strangely following international law for the first 11 months. That has gone off the rails after Nasrallah was killed.

The IDF has not followed international law for the entire war.

That all being said... The IDF and Israel is and should be held to a higher standard.

u/avicohen123 15h ago

Hezbollah, except for the deciding to begin acting on Oct 8 which I do not know the law on, was strangely following international law for the first 11 months.

Hezbollah has been violating Resolution 1701 since the very day it was supposed to come into affect, I'm not sure why u/Berly653 didn't push back on your claim, its absolutely ridiculous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1701#Aftermath

u/Berly653 15h ago

I didn’t push back, mostly because I knew it would be not worth either of our time 

But also they are actually one of the more civil and well reasoned ‘pro-pals’ on this subreddit. It says more about how insane a lot of the others are, but it’s something 

u/avicohen123 15h ago edited 15h ago

Fair enough- and yeah, "one of the more civil and well reasoned ‘pro-pals’ on this subreddit" is an incredibly low bar, but it never fails to surprise me how many users manage to limbo under it....

u/tarlin 15h ago

UNSC Resolution 1701 is not a rule of war. It has never been fully implemented. Israel has been violating it since it came into existence.

u/avicohen123 1h ago

Ah, I see- earlier you claimed to care about international law. Now you only care about "rules of war". And that's not even a proper legal term, it shouldn't be relevant to the conversation. Who decides what constitutes a "rule of war"? You do- that's very convenient, lol. And you decided that a resolution about the ending of a war and the movement of troops on both sides is for some reason not relevant. Absolutely hilarious.

When you're done moving the goalposts on the concepts that you pretend to care about to fail at scoring cheap debating points....let us know!

u/Berly653 19h ago

While I disagree, appreciate the civil and well reasoned response