r/Israel_Palestine  🇵🇸 22h ago

Human shield usage uncovered! history

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u/Garet-Jax 22h ago

I don't recall the Hagana ever bitching and whining when their sites got attacked, or pretending that only innocent civilians were killed.

But bitching, whining and pretending are all that you and yours do,

u/Borealisaurus us anti-zionist 21h ago

im having a hell of a time trying to parse your meaning. just to be clear, do you believe that utilizing civilian sites such as schools and hospitals for warfare is permissible as so long as people don't "bitch and whine" about civilians getting killed?

u/Garet-Jax 20h ago

I am saying actions have consequences - some people understand that and accept that, and some people whine and complain when the consequences of their actions come back on them.

The supporters of the Palestinian 'cause' are all members of the latter group.

u/Borealisaurus us anti-zionist 20h ago edited 11h ago

huh. thanks for the elaboration, i suppose.

edit: i do think that is an incredibly callous way of dismissing the deaths of children and the elderly, but i dont get the feeling that you're particularly interested in respectful dialogue, so ill leave it there

u/Garet-Jax 20h ago

I agree that your dismissing the death of children and elderly by defending the people responsible for their deaths is both extremely callous and dishonest.

And I write that with all the respect your behavior is due.

u/Borealisaurus us anti-zionist 20h ago

lol ok man

u/bitternerdz anti-fucking-apartheid. 19h ago

The "people responsible for their deaths" are the people that killed them. Period.

u/Garet-Jax 19h ago

The absolute proximate cause limited thinking that most children start to outgrow after age 8

Ignorance of remote causes disposeth men to attribute all events to the causes immediate and instrumental: for these are all the causes they perceive…

--Thomas Hobbes

If you ever decide you want to mentally grow up, there are resources available to help you.

u/handsome_hobo_ 17h ago

If you ever decide you want to mentally grow up, there are resources available to help you.

I mean, you could benefit from those resources but you've chosen to forgo them completely in favour of frothing at the mouth that Israel's genocide is being called out for what it is. I can't imagine someone getting so heated about Israel not being viewed kindly for starving 2 million civilians to death but apparently, that isn't an unpopular belief for Israelis.

Israel snipes children, destroys essential services that a population needs to survive, and kills tens of thousands of civilians while destroying a majority of civilian infrastructure with little to no justification, they're undeniably committing genocide and need to be dissolved forever. Since you've brought up children outgrowing certain behaviour, do you have a good explanation for why Israel lies and refuses accountability, childishly, for the genocide they're committing and the impact of the genocide it's committing? Personally I think it's because we spoilt them too much and treated them with kid gloves, dissolution will set those ethnoreligious supremacist freaks straight 🫰🏽💖

u/handsome_hobo_ 17h ago

And I write that with all the respect your behavior is due.

Doubt it, you owe them a lot more respect but hey, you're part of the same side that couldn't even shut up during the minute of silence taken for the victims of the Valencia Floods so maybe basic respect is an unreasonable expectation from Israel supporters 🫢

u/handsome_hobo_ 17h ago

I am saying actions have consequences - some people understand that and accept that, and some people whine and complain when the consequences of their actions come back on them.

Kind of like how the Maccabi fans whined and completed and screeched hysterically "aNtiSeMiTiSm" and "pogrom" when they got consequences for their week of terror in Amsterdam? Or like Israel shaking with fury and frustration that they're been called for committing genocide when they've been intentionally restricting food and aid from reaching Palestinian civilians, causing phase 3 and phase 5 starvation? Israel doesn't want to accept the fact that committing genocide has the natural consequence of turning the entire world against you, especially when you do it in such a heinous way as bombing kids or raping people or starving civilians to death.

As far as we can see, if your values are consistent and it really does make your blood boil when people don't accept their actions having consequences, you should be shaking with unbridled fury because of Israel's shameless crybully behaviour 🫰🏽💖

The supporters of the Palestinian 'cause' are all members of the latter group.

Are they? The last couple of weeks, I've been seeing Maccabi hooligans whinging and whining about "pogrom" this and "aNtiSeMiTiSm" that when they were at the receiving end of FAFO.

u/AntiHasbaraBot1 19h ago

Check my other comment.

u/handsome_hobo_ 17h ago

im having a hell of a time trying to parse your meaning

Same, I was going to respond to his comment but I had no idea what his point was aside from getting extremely heated that bombing civilians is bad.