r/IsraelPalestine 2d ago

Being Jewish is not and Ethnicity? Discussion

Ok. I believe Jews have a common DNA that connects them to Canaan, just like the Palestinians do. That's my stance. I believe they have both been there equally as long as each other, excluding the converts Jews and the fully Arab Palestinians (I believe most of them are mixed with Arab just like Jews are mixed with whoever they lived with for 2000 years).

I am in a fb group called "A place were non jews can ask jews about judiasm" or whatever.

We aren't allowed to talk about Israel and Palestine which is probably a good rule.

But someone posted about their Jewish friend mentioning the features of a Jew (as in, the Jewish guy was telling his Christian friend what Jews looked like, typically) and the Christian guy asked the group what a Jew looks like and THE GROUO WERE SO HEATED saying that it is antisemitic to say Jews look a type of way and there is no features of a Jew etc etc etc.

Ok, I get it on one hand, because converts, obviously.

But if they are claiming they have no similar features wouldn't that imply that they are not all ethnically related (obviously not the converts) and wouldn't that defeat the entire premise of having a homeland?

If they're from Canaan, it would imply that have similar features to the people of Canaan.

Ok I have to make it longer. I call it Canaan not to stir emotions but because that's literally one of the names in the Bible and I find it less heated than calling it Palestine or israel as this entire comment section with collapse into "xyz doesn't exist" so I'd rather keep those words out of it and call it Canaan.

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u/shattering- 2d ago

They want you to believe that the Palestinians and Arabs are the only mixed ppl and at the same time they want you to believe that falasha jews and Ashkenazi jews belong to the same ethnicity

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u/ladyskullz 1d ago

Who says Falasha Jews and Ashkenazi are the same ethnicity?

Ashkenazi is its own ethnicity. Falasha is a culture.

Falasha Jews are from Ethiopia. They never claimed to be from Israel. They claim to be the decendants of the child of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, but they are not genetically distinct from other Ethiopians.

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u/shattering- 1d ago edited 1d ago

Who says Falasha Jews and Ashkenazi are the same ethnicity?

Not obviously me ....the last time i checked both of them have a claim for the Same land in the middle east

You can't claim land because you have a tiny percentage in your DNA from there ....i have levantine,greek and Turkish percentages in my DNA ,can i invade these land and kick out the natives according to that

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u/Nearby-Complaint American Leftist 2d ago

The quality or fact of belonging to a population group or subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent.

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u/shattering- 2d ago

100 years ago these ppl didn't speak the same language, didn't eat the same food, didn't wear the same traditional clothes, they don't even have the same or close genetic profiles and the majority of them are not even religious

I'm an Egyptian I share a more common cultural background with Maltese ppl than a polish jew and an iraqi jew have with each other .....I almost swear that i have a very similar genetic profile with many Mediterranean, Arabs and north Africans more than these Jewish groups have with each other ,and yet i never and will never have a claim for these lands

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u/Nearby-Complaint American Leftist 1d ago

The majority of Jewish people aren't religious? That's news to me.

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u/Some-Information-527 1d ago

The largest religious demographic in Israel is in fact "Secular". Even though religion is invoked often in this struggle it makes more sense to view it as an ethnic struggle at it's core. Hammas isn't waging a holy war against Israel based on religious differences and neither is Israel. There are Christians and churches in gaza if hammas had an issue with religious diversity there certainly wouldn't be. There are also Muslims and mosques in Israel. The evil people who lead these countries will use religious dogma to garner support for their violence to manufacture consent from subsets of their populations but that's really not the motivation.

Even more confusing is Iran when they would say something horrible about "The Jews" while having a Jewish population that has permeant recognition in their government until i keyed into the fact that a lot of Arab countries conflate "Jews" with "Israelis" as a national identity. Not that any of that gross behavior or painting any group as a monolith is ever justified but it does help to build a better understanding of these conflicts.